so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

[mrsb33]

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

Thank you so much for the support ladies, exactly what i needed. Feeling a bit better now, have been cramping on and off all day with a strong pressure towards the bottom of my uterus so I'm taking that as progress and feeling more positive. You're right wombat if we go by my dates she is only a day late and if we were in France she wouldn't even be due yet! What's also annoying me now is the fact that I've seen so many midwives at the same hospital and they all seem to have a different view on hospital policy.

So glad to hear that the talk went well wombat must be a relief, probably for him too to be able to share the load a little bit.

There has been some nipple tweaking, the midwife did mention semen too. She said she appreciated we might not want sex but it is the semen that is the important part, not totally sure what she was suggesting but maybe some kind of turkey baster situation?

Anyway thanks again for the invaluable support, I didn't really want to talk to anyone in real life about it so you guys really are so important. Will let you know if anything else develops on the cramping front. I'm guessing these are not contractions yet, maybe just some preparatory stretching or something.

Cadburys creme eggs all round

Buggeration, just lost a long lost on this stupid Mac thing! Yellow, wasn't around yesterday so sorry I wasn't able to come on to offer support, how ludicrous! I have been sat here spitting out my crumpet bread toasty crumbs in rage. How can she possibly be qualified? On what grounds does she think this is appropriate or correct advice to dispense? And upon doing so, what did she offer by way of a solution? Did she run you a bubble bath, or pour you a g&t? No, just left you bemused and upset. Ina May would say that how you feel emotionally can have a lot of bearing on how labour progresses of course, and if you were uncomfortable with the midwife you might have given off a vibe, but, oooh, I am incredulous! You seem to have worked through it though, good!
Re the sperm, you need to ingest it, and in bucket-sized amounts for it to do anything apparently, so take no notice and have some cake
I keep meaning to tell you, as I didn't realise, that newborns all seems to have squishy, flat, bruised noses that make them look like boxers. No-one told me and it was quite disturbing, as Gabes didn't bear any resemblance to either of us as a result - I had thought I might 'recognise' him in some way when I got to meet him, but the nose threw me off course. Your dh might be expecting to see a noble, gallic schnoz so you should both be aware, but the swelling does go down quite quickly. Just something to bear in mind, if you're expecting a beautiful newborn with an adorable button nose! The Bounty photo woman is really having a laugh, the little ones are hardly at their photogenic best within hours of arrival.
Wombat, get away with your 9am buggefit, you're taking the piss now! Glad Jack was similar to Gabes, I hope to be as competent as you in a couple of weeks. Glad you got things sorted with dh, I've found I really need to probe dh and get things out in the open - turns out we were both simmering over a dishwasher incident for different reasons, and it was a catalogue of misunderstandings, so every little resentment does need to be mentioned and resolved it seems otherwise it will fester. Your dh sounds lovely not wanting to trouble you.
Any developments today Yellow? Worm, sounds like you are doing excellently, especially on the expressing amounts, I'm lucky to get a couple of ounces as fat evil genius invariably gets to it first. I use the Medela electric pump, not the swingy one as that was more expensive, quite happy with it's performance and don't think I could get anything out with a manual one, I'd be too wimpish for the exertion required.
Righto, off to shower then meet another couple and baby in a garden centre for a very civilised brunch.

I am slightly and by your suggestion of yellow ingesting gallons of sperm sparkly....! do you know they do porn films on that sort of thing? (apparently!) Very impressed with your garden centre meet-up - tres civilsed - hope you made it there through the snow!

Glad that we were able to provide some much-needed support yellow - it's amazing how easy it is to ask you lovely ladies for advice and how valuabe it is. I'm wondering if you're actually in labour now and you're going to be one of those lucky women who say "oh it was just like a bit of a period pain" about contractions! . Have actually been quite worried for you about all the snow and hoping that you can get to hospital as quick as possible if needs be.... I'm curious about your comment about not even being due if you were in France - do they have a different calculation out there or something?

Buggefit was great again - had to stop to feed the hungry monster half way which got me out of some lunges (well done Jack!) and even made it to a pedicure this afternoon with him. He was amazingly well behaved - cute then asleep then fed and we were all done! Was tempted to push my luck and have a manicure too! Thanks for all your nice words about DH too - it's amazing how much the air has cleared and how much more we;re enjoying each other's company again.

Pancakes and maple syrup all round xx

It wasn't a suggestion! Tis true, you need to ingest it, one really would rather not obviously. If you re-read, I actually suggested cake!

The French are chilled out apparently Wombat, anything up to 42 weeks is normal and in term, not reason for panic like it seems to be here, where advice is both scare-mongery and inconsistent to boot. There's too much store held by the mythical 'due date' here and either panic or general pissed-offness when baby fails to heed the exact date they are meant to make an appearance and rudely stays put, forcing mum to go through all sorts of invasive procedures and unwanted advice. I thought if I got to 40+14 then my placenta would fail and my head would fall off.

Garden centre scones and clotted cream were dreamy, company really nice too - they have a 6 month old boy, funny to have a vision of how Gabes may develop.

I'll have a pancake and syrup even though it is a touch mad and too early, you are as bad as Yellow with her mince pies in November and her Easter eggs in February!

Hello ladies

No news on the birth front, am still here. There actually was a lot of snow in London last night which could have made getting to hospital a bit tricky. Tried to go for a walk earlier but it was too slippery but a lot has melted now.

I am going for the Jaffa cake and caburys creme egg options, I'm sure they will be just as effective. My mum keeps asking me if I have wanted to clean the outside of the windows as that would be a sign - a sign of insanity in this weather!

Sparkly is right about France, the normal gestation is 41 weeks rather than 40 but I'm not sure what happens then, they tend to have more drs involved and no birth centers. So being half French maybe she'll come tomorrow? I have calmed down properly now thanks to you lovely ladies and will just try not to obsess too much this week. I like your idea of Menotti having much pain wombat I'll take that.

Also so glad things are much better with your dh and I agree with sparkly that it is good to get things out in the open on the whole although I do also think it can sometimes be good to let the little things slide.

I love scones and clotted cream, am thinking of having an afternoon tea this week - sounds v delicious.

Am still having cramps on and off, wish they would develop into something or go away.

Now what would be the right food for the season sparkly a warming vegetable soup?

I think a salad and ice cream would be most appropriate for sparkly's strict seasonal food intake! Apologies to you for misconstruing your semen suggestion - I must have muddled you up with worm and mrsb temporarily - hope you're doing ok worm and still in the land of the living. I can't imagine you guys would ever want to leave the house again with the weather the way it is back in Blighty.... brrrrr!

Interesting re: Les Francais - I'd be curious to know what the rate of inductions / emergency c/s / interventions etc is compared to the UK.

It is funny seeing older babies isn't it sparkly? Jack is so adorable right now though that I already don't want him to grow up....

Thanks for the regular updates yellow - I couldn't stop thinking about you last night - I'm so excited for you! Forgive me but who / what is Menotti? Perhaps a typo? Sending lots of eviction vibes your way.

Carrot cake for all (is that seasonally acceptable sparkly?! )

Yummy, carrot cake is tempting enough even to bring me out of my cave!

Just a quickly, lots and lots of calm birthing vibes to yellow

Wombat, Jack is too cute!

Worm, hope all is well with you, Megs and your other kidlets, so sorry you ended up with thrush, how unfair.

Sparkly, sounds like you're doing a great job, Gabes sounds like a cherub.

MrsB can't get on to post but she asked me to let you know she's having a really tough time at work, her job is looking quite vulnerable and uncertain so pretty stressy times for her.

I had my routine ante natal last week, all fine, trace of glucose in urine so hope I don't head down the last minute gestational diabetes route like my sister did. A bit weird as my weight is completely normal and diet is healthy (as was my sister's) but I guess it's just one of those things. Hey ho, it's no biggy. I started buying some things at the weekend, exciting! Still not sure what to do about sleeping - love the bedside cot that yellow got, so it'll be interesting to see how she gets on with it. From what I can tell it's like a co sleeping type arrangement but they're still in their own space. Also cuts out the need for a moses basket. Or do you think that a moses basket is a better first sleeping arrangement? Or are you laughing at me for presuming my baby will sleep?! Answers on the back of a postcard, please!

Had a weird, randomn thought today - all of you who now have their babies seem so incredibly far on compared to my in utero bubba, yet they'll still be in the same academic year at school! Anyway, as you were...

Morning all

Good to hear from you kool glad all was fine at ante natal except glucose thingy but good that they detect and keep an eye on that too. I believe sparkly didn't have much success with the Moses basket, I haven't got one but there is no room for one in this small flat.

Poor mrsb33 sending supportive vibes, hope it works out ok

wombat I think I meant to type 'me not' and didn't notice what the naughty auto correct had done.

Argghhhh, can't see what I want to reply to as it's put me on the first page for some reason, will post and try again

Actually looks like that was about it....sorry to be disturbing your sleep wombat I'm sure you have enough of that with lovely little jack.

Unfortunately I have no signs or symptoms at all today, not even a little twinge so don't hold your breath on any action here any time soon.

I have nothiing at all to do tomorrow yellow so it would be a really good day for you to go into labour and update us hourly

OI!!!!! give over with the ingesting buckets of sperm chitty chat!! I am shocked!! Nipple tweaking did it for me with DH who was 5 days overdue. Don't be like me and do it just as you settle down for bed, as we know how you love your sleep.

Glad there was nothing too drastic afoot with your DH wombat and FX things get easier for him on the work front. It is so tempting to hand the kids straight over isn't it. Loving the sound of buggyrobics. I wish they did stuff like that here in the wilds of Lincolnshire! sounds right up my street.

I am a moses basket gal here, however I cant fit a cot into our bedroom without moving the whole room around so I will be cramming Meg into the basket for a good while yet. I like being able to bring it down for daytime sleeping while there is no set pattern.

Did you sign up for anything at the surestart sparkly or did the Kath Kidson gang put you off?

Good to hear from you kool have you had anymore meet ups with the IVF crew? are they giving you extra check ups now to keep an eye on the glucose?

I am really getting into this BF lark. It's so much easier than making up bottles and it means I dont have to get out of bed to do it, its so bloody cold! Last night was good in that both feeds took only 20 minutes and then she went back down beautifully. Some of the ladies on the January board are really struggling and up half the night so I am counting my blessings.

Low fat snacks all round. (I couldnt fit in some size 16's today

Ha ha ha ha kool - that's an evil chuckle that your child will sleep! To be fair, they do sleep, sometimes ooh for a whole 3 hours! However you may find kool that you have a cherub that sleeps through from very early on - in fact, I do genuinely hope you do - sleep deprivation ain't any fun..... fwiw, we have a moses basket although I'm not 100% convinced by it as the mattress is so pathetic. JAck seems to prefer it a whole lot more in our bed. We bought a cot bed that seems way too enormous for him at this stage, although I think we'll only get another month out of the moses basket as he's growing fast. I will also be v interested to hear how the bedside cot works for yellow. Hope it's not GD and although a bit of a pain in the arse, is quite manageable, from what I understand from a friend here who had it. I'll be leaving out more carrot cake if it can tempt you out - it's always lovely to hear how you're getting on. And you're right, it seems super weird that they'll be in the same academic year - what a nice class they would be though!

Drumming my fingers in anticipation yellow..... probably not as hard as you are though! And don't worry, you're not keeping me up - it's when Jack is awake during the night (3 times last night... ) -the rest of the time, I am dead to the world. I wonder if no symptoms today means that petite tomate is having a wee rest before gearing up for the big event..... keep us posted! xx

x post worm - couldn't resist the wee poke about the porn - sorreeeee! Fabulous to hear that you are getting on so well with the BF - 20 mins at this stage is just brill - very well done you. I've noticed too that Jack doesn't seem nearly as barfy as his counterparts who are formula fed which is another bonus. His latest trick is to push my boob away and seemingly turn away with a look of disgust on his face - very amusing indeed!

ooooooh - wondering if lack of posting today means that yellow is otherwise engaged.....! Still very excited! Or perhaps she's totally fed up with being overdue in the UK and has hot-footed it to France to be not so overdue ! Wherever you are and whatever you're doing, I'm thinking of you!

Had a lovely picnic in the park with our antenatal group today - just 7 of us plus bubs which was a much more manageable number than usual. Jack is still the cutest baby there of course!

Have some chocolate cup cakes before I scoff the lot xx

Lurkey lurk lurk..........

Sorry to disappoint but no news here. I have had acu again today which caused a few cramps but nothing more...boo hiss.

It's reassuring to hear that you are all getting on so well with b'feeding, will help me to believe I'll be able to get there too.

Will let you gals know the minute I have more promising pains or developments

Nothing, rien, nada, etc

How far did you go before you got induced sparkly I am 40+9 today!

Off to afternoon tea today, oh how I love those little sarnies and scones and jam and clotted cream.

I've done 2 lots of washing today, could that be a sign? I have also painted my toenails and tided up my lady garden. I couldn't be more ready

Ooh, I was induced at 40+9! This was to squeeze me in before crimbo if you remember, otherwise I'd have had to go to 40+15 if nothing happened, and wasn't keen on that! Looking back I'd much rather have waited a little longer, but was slightly worried by the 'head will fall off' brigade. Baby will come when it's ready
Oooh oooh, I love an afternoon tea too! Had a massive scone and clotted cream at the garden centre, scones are my new very favourite thing. Now I just need to learn how to make them so they are not like flat, heavy paperweights!
Gabes is snoozing but stirring so best go, his little mouth is pouting and searching like a hungry baby sparrow in a nest. Wombat, Gabes also rejects the boob with a haughty look of disgust sometimes, it is funny; the fickle creature has to demure at some point until he can rustle up his own immune-boosting, tailor-made feast, but you'd think I was offering up a turkey twizzler.
Waves to all and contractiony, whaley music vibes to Yellow x

Gah - post had been eaten twice! so just a quick one to say come on petite tomate - stop giving your mum a hard time. Get the teas in while you can yellow - good for strength in labour! . Do tell us to wind our necks in if our stalking / lurking is making you more fed up than you probably already are!

Arf arf at the twizzlers sparkly - they are such funny little critters. Would you consider posting a pic of Gabes on your profile? Would just love to see him!

Another playdate in the park today - Jack was with a girl who was born the same day but he looked an absolute bruiser in comparison - there is no mistaking he's a boy!

I have just added a new pic to my profile here from today - I know I'm biased but it's a really cute one of Jack!

Ahhh wombat he's adorable.......

sparkly interesting to know when you were induced and that with hindsight you would have preferred to wait, I do remember xmas being a factor now you mention it.

I am not fed up at all and like the attention! You guys are not annoying at all but I'll tell you who is..........my mum and mother in law and all the rest of the panic panic your head will fall off brigade.

i am relaxed and fine and would prefer baba to come when she is ready. I am more than happy to potter about, stuff my face and sleep.....there is no hurry. However, my mum is in such a frenzy she's driving me mad....she wants me to text her every day...i don't want to cos I don't want her to know until it's all over and don't want to set a precedent but if i don't she starts harassing me. So today she texted me about half 10 to say she and my dad were going out so i should text them on both their phones......so i did to say that there was no news......then she called me about half an hour later to know if there was any more news, pains etc.......grrrrr. Then the mil called dp because she believes we have a medieval system of healthcare here and that in France I would be induced tomorrow (according to her) but she was in a right panic cos she thought i'd just been at home all this time and not having any check ups or anything......so she got dp into a panic (he's close already and doesn't need any encouragement) and so he phoned me for no real reason except to tell me about the panic......so I was feeling fine but then all these other people in a panic make me feel massively under pressure to perform.

Im more than happy for people to get in touch, see how I am, if there is any news etc cos it makes me feel nice that I'm not forgotten but the stressy-ness and scare mongering I could do without. ffs the WHO and NICE guidelines both say a 'normal' pg is up to 42 weeks.....which is not until Monday. All my tests are fine and the baby is active. I know this, i have read a lot of research and am happy with this but the more I have to repeat myself the more I get anxious and worry about something going wrong etc..........

Grrrrrrr and breathe.............

Ive downloaded a 'relax and help you to open your cervix' or something like that track from t'interweb so am going to lie on the sofa and listen to that now.

Afternoon tea was lovely although I did eat too much but that was to be expected, have bought broccoli and fish for dinner to compensate.

i love you guys descriptions of the breast feeding/declining face...so exciting that I'm nearly there........

I couldn't manage all the cakes so have bought back a selection for you guys, there is a mini brownie, cheesecake, raspberry meringue, pistachio thing-y and shortbread. Sorry I ate all the scones!

oooh - I'll take one of each please yellow and I shall forgive you for the scones are you so updiffed!

Sorry that you are getting hassle from all sides - your attitude sounds fantastic and very healthy - as you say, you still have 5 days to go, you're having regular checks, feeing good (if not a little cake-filled ) and plenty of movements from petite tomate. Have a gentle squeeze and a pat on the back for staying so calm.

P.S. If your head does fall off, will they still induce you....?!

Lurky McLurky from Lurkyland.....

Lurking from phone. I'll be back later on laptop .

No news I'm afraid and no signs either. I am feeling the pressure now, DP is v stressed about waiting and wants me to induced ASAP and is trying to get me to agree. I've agreed to Monday but we'll see. I bought a new download mp3 'how to let go and open your uterus' which I've listened to twice and have one more acu today.

sparkly how did they start your induction, was it with gel, pessaries or breaking waters? Was your cervix favorable? I guess I can ask what the plan would be when I see the midwife tomorrow. Really not keen but am kind of out of option.

Come on send me some dilation vibes!