so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

wellie!! There you are. Are you ok lovely?? I worry that we're all babies/preg here........ Do tell us to shut up.

yellow I'm emotional and on the verge of tears pretty much constantly! Do do your pelvic floor exercises, it's worth it. I've always done mine religiously and have no problems at all. Yet!

Oh god I've forgotten already!!! Ummm.....

worm sounds like a touch of spd to me.

wombat the tuning forks were pretty damn good! I had my first pain free night for aaages on Tueday, but then ruined it by over-doing things on Wednesday. Am now sleep deprived and exhausted.....

I'm after a bit of advice on work. I've got gp on Monday, then consultant on the 27th and mw on 28th. I was going to beg gp to sign me off work, but my assistant is off next week and it would land work in deep doo-doo. But they've been bloody awful to me (will be taking legal advice it's that bad), so why am I feeling guilty?! WWYD??

Sorry to everyone I've not name-checked..... I'm so blooming tired!

Yoohoo, I am here! Missed you ladies, been off on holiday this week and it's been really busy with one thing and another. Got into my head that the kitchen needed decorating, and a new sink and taps plumbing in, so poor dh has not had a moments rest. We're taking it easy today, and making our Christmas cake, so soon the revamped (but still quite grotty) kitchen will smell delicious! You are all welcome round to lick the bowl.
Oooh, I had salmon and cream cheese bagel the other day for lunch with dsis, followed by a chocolate orange brownie with pecans. Hom. Been eating like a peeeg, dsis says I will need to eat lots of fattie foods whilst bf'ing so just making sure I know what to do!
Who said they feel like they've had loads of sex? Was it you Wormy? I've read about vulval varicose veins, and speaking to my Dr friend, turns out she had them with her pregnancies. Said she felt 'rather full' down below. Second the caution in having a look! In the spirit of good honest sharing (and why we will never meet! ) I feel, possibly tmi, that I don't smell as fragrant as I used to thereabouts, so that aspect of sex is out for the time being. Positions are becoming an issue, even on all fours I feel like a pendulous milking cow! Er, anyway, don't know how we got onto this.......
Dsis was telling me about a swaddling blanket Jojomamabebe do that has velcro fasteners at the top, so you can straight-jacket the little wriggler in. Said she wished they were around in her day (she is all of 34 but is now well seasoned in all matters child-wise) - I'm going to check them out, lack of sleep is still my biggest concern.

Right, off for a cappuccino in the village now. Love the pet-sitting idea by the way. We use Cossett and Walker (think that was the name), check out the site for tips to steal! It's £10 a day but if you love the pets, and leave a glowing report afterwards on how adorable they all were, you have got customers for life! You don't even have to take cats for a walk, it's taking the piss really but funny what people will pay for. Even in a recession, people don't scrimp on pets or (further down priority list ) kids apparently, so these are your niche areas.

Love to all, sorry to forget everyone's questions and comments and names, my brain is mush, locked myself out of the house the other day which is most unlike me, it's downhill from here. La la laaa.......x
Ooh, Harassed, your boss is an arse, and you owe them nothing. The fact you are considering staying to help them out of a hole says volumes about you, it is excellent karma to store up. However, if you have enough good karma tucked away, tell them to naff off, put your feet up and stick on 'Escape the the country' with a brew and a hobnob x

Wellie, we love you too!
Yellow, I creased up laughing yesterday and a little bit of wee came out

Hello ladies

Had my scan this morning......all good.....and it's a.........GIRL! I'm very excited and relieved that all is well. Makes it feel more real now. :)

Have you been doing your pelvic floor exercises sparkly? How did the Xmas cake making go?

harassed how did it go at the doctors, did you get signed off? For what it's worth it sounds like you company/boss haven't been treating you well and so don't really deserve your loyalty. I think it's important that you look after yourself right now.

hello wellie good to hear from you

How is everyone else today? How is the sex feeling worm, hope it's not developed into anything more painful.....

Hello ladies

Had my scan this morning......all good.....and it's a.........GIRL! I'm very excited and relieved that all is well. Makes it feel more real now. :)

Have you been doing your pelvic floor exercises sparkly? How did the Xmas cake making go?

harassed how did it go at the doctors, did you get signed off? For what it's worth it sounds like you company/boss haven't been treating you well and so don't really deserve your loyalty. I think it's important that you look after yourself right now.

hello wellie good to hear from you

How is everyone else today? How is the sex feeling worm, hope it's not developed into anything more painful.....

Hello ladies

Had my scan this morning......all good.....and it's a.........GIRL! I'm very excited and relieved that all is well. Makes it feel more real now. :)

Have you been doing your pelvic floor exercises sparkly? How did the Xmas cake making go?

harassed how did it go at the doctors, did you get signed off? For what it's worth it sounds like you company/boss haven't been treating you well and so don't really deserve your loyalty. I think it's important that you look after yourself right now.

hello wellie good to hear from you

How is everyone else today? How is the sex feeling worm, hope it's not developed into anything more painful.....

It's a girl you say Yellow? Congratulations!!! A little M in the making, aww. Glad all went well, it is such a relief and you can really move forward postively now - you've come a long way!

Bought anything gender-neutral yet? I bought a blue blanket at the weekend, nest nest.
Haven't done any pelvic exercises, laziness will be my incontinent downfall. I'll have a squeeze now. Have polished off another family-bar of Aero I found lurking in my desk though, I'm sure it doesn't count if it just melts in the mouth. Everyone says I haven't put on any weight, so I've pretty much taken it as carte blanche to gorge, it doesn't take much encouragement! The Christmas cake is all done and tinned up ready for the festive season, the house smelt lovely and spicy. Getting excited now!

Hello ladies, just wanted to come and let you know that I've had my baby! Just been having a quickcatch-up with everyone's news and hope that my new graduate status will Spurr everyone on through the horrible metalling phases.
Anyway, it's a girl! Elective cs so all v civilised but had forgotten how tricky/painful it is to move for the next couple of days, feeling ok now a week later and just waiting to see how my spd is once cs recovery is over, took a while last time together back to normal. She is v gorgeous, and both ds are smitten with her. Bit knackered through lack of sleep/lots of visitors but just wanted to share and say hi. Take care all, good luck with everything - harassed, definitely get signed off x

manamana, aw, congratulations on your beautiful baby girl, so pleased for you I am suitably spurred and a little bit impatient for myself now!

Aww [goosebumpy emocion] congratulations to our firt graduate Manamana hope the soreness fades quickly and try not to do too much!!

Congrats on the girl yellow is it triplets? and now the fun begins starting to shop! do you feel her move much yet?

sparkly I love your posts you are so funny sounds as though the nesting is in full swing (in a albeit in a supervisory capacity!)

harrased so is the boss still being as arse? just a word of caution regarding getting signed off work, there is a certain time afterwhich if you take sick leave due to pregnancy related stuff they can force you to start your materninty leave............. How is the SPD?

Thanks for the wave wellie

Waves to star know you are alive as I saw on facebook, :) hope all is well? the footy season has started so you will be busy shopping with the Redknaps and sorting out the photo shoot for Hello.......

So I spent the back end of last week trying not to "spread my legs" (bloody hard I'll tell you as I am feeling particuly frisky at the moment and the sore fanjo had cleared up by saturday. Then I made the mistake of doing a load of gardening yesterday and now it feels like I have been kicked in the fanny.............. and I am walking a bit like John Wayne.......
In nice news I am feeling loads of movement and am sending back the hired doppler at the end of this month.

Sorry if I missed anyone

wow manamana congratulations! Such lovely news...

sparkly you keep mentioning those aeros and that means I have to eat them too. I also am very keen on mint choc chip ice cream right now....nom nom nom. Apparently the little one has a slightly fatter than normal tummy, so def takes after her Mum! I've got some little socks and the in-laws sent me a white cardigan and hat....very cute. I still haven't done any pelvic floor exercises despite the scary course last week...must try harder.

worm sorry you've done yourself a mischief with all the gardening....I'm feeling the opposite of frisky right now. I am feeling quite a lot of movement but only on the inside you can't feel it from the outside yet. And she was jumping round like a maniac today, the sonographer said it was technically a very difficult scan.

Where is wombat?

ok, where is everyone? Are you all having a party somewhere?

I just had a lovely cottage pie for lunch but it was v big and I'm now feeling uncomfortably bloated.

I've also been having a bit of trouble this week getting comfy in bed. Can't seem to lie on my side as it puts too much pressure on my hip...any tips?

Also, is anyone else very......wet down there? I'll have to wear panty liners....

Come on ladies, someone must have some news or a mucky story or something!

Hiya Yellow, I've been lurking but nothing much to say, however as I am in sharing mood, and you've asked so politely about vaginal moistness, how could I resist? Bit moist, yes. Especially after my recurring dreams about Chris Evans Not just rude-moistness though, sometimes almost like I am almost about to wet myself, and despite my exceptionally slack pelvic floor that is not the case. There's a lot of fluid up there though, so I guess some leaks out occasionally. There was a thread a couple of days ago about someone worried her waters had gone early, but she was further gone (30-something weeks) and it was more of a gush. A few ladies did come on to say they had fluid trickling down their legs in the early morning on getting out of bed, and it was not need-a-wee related. Let us consider it another 'normal' symptom, that would normally panic us (the struggling for breath being another corker).
I hope that helps and reassures!
I've got an Asda V-shaped pillow I am using in bed now, more to cuddle into as my bump is not that big and though I've tried hefting it onto the pillow it's not quite large enough to stay put. Sexy huh?! You could try that, or a normal pillow, propped against one side of your back so you're not entirely on your back but nor completely on your side. Pillowage seems to be the answer but the ideal combo is quite elusive.
There's gotta be a book out of these gems!
Right, off home for sausage, mash and beans, been excited all day!
Love to all x

Look at the time girls. Yes I'm up and have been awake since 1235 with a hurty fanny sore pelvis :( have just taken some paracetamol hopefully I can get back to sleep. Have got schools to look around for ds so really need it to ease.
yellow I second the advise from sparkly about pillows around you to support I ended up sleeping on sofa with dd as I could lean against the back.
No fun mucky story I'm afraid just moans from me .
Where is wombat ?

It's always a bit embarrassing to pop in every few months to say hi, but I clearly have no shame as I'm back again.

It's lovely to hear about so many of you with your growing bumps :) , how exciting!

MrsB I'm so delighted to hear your news and in a teeny way may I feel I contributed with the cbfm?!! I'm sorry that you're feeling so grotty. How many weeks are you now?

I have some happy news too, our first ivf cycle worked and I'm now 12+3! I wanted to pop in to share the news as so many of you were so supportive during all of our mcs last year. I'm not brave enough to join a due date thread this time so I might lurk here again if you'll have me?

Hello kool

Anyone bringing food is always welcome.....and I do love scones.... they hit the spot just lovely......

And CONGRATULATIONS that really is lovely news, i am sooooo happy for you. You must be over the moon.......how did you manage to get through to 12 weeks without going mental? Good work! So have you just had your 12 week scan? Did you have lots of early scans? What's your dd, i can't work it out for myself......let me see, must be end of March? An Aries? That would be excellent....

You are very welcome to hang around, esp as everyone else has buggered off I haven't joined any antenatal threads either, the one for Jan is bursting at the seams and by the time I felt confident enough to join they all knew each other etc.

sparkly thank you for the moistness info, I knew I could rely on you. If I want to pull you out of lurking I have to think of something vaguely mucky to discuss!

On the topic of 'down there' has anyone come across perineal massage? My yoga teacher was going on about it last night and selling pots and oils. Has anyone tried? it is meant to help with stretching or something. I put it into google and there is a youtube video but I daren't look!

Oooh worm I'm sorry your fanny pelvis has been preventing sleep. Can you get physio or summat for that kind of thing? I hope it is a bit better today and you get a good sleep tonight. I love sleeping so much I really worry about what'll happen when I regularly can't sleep cos of aches and pains or baby. I'll have a meltdown.......

some people have said 'normal' pillows are fine but my friend said they move around too much so a special pg pillow is much more helpful. I'll buy any old crap if I think it'll help me sleep. i went to a 'managing your back in pregnancy' thing at the hospital today and they gasped when i said I slept on my back. I'm just finding my side means that my hip and shoulder get sore and achy and it wakes me up....I will find that magical pillow combination!

Yellow, you're taking the piss now, right? Expecting me to divulge that dh and myself do indulge in a spot of mutual perineal massage, to keep things lively I imagine you don't put your finger up the anus as such with pregnancy-related massage but will not be googling to check, I will not be tricked! MrsBB and Worm will be along soon to discuss further I'm sure
Who's pillow 'moves around'? Maybe with the old silk pillowsham on, but otherwise no, especially the V-shaped Asda number I've got which is covered in the cheapest synthetic fibre possible, I'm more likely to be electrocuted! Some people mention the dreamgenii as being very good but it is a squillion pounds and is shaped like a turd so couldn't bring myself to purchase.
Kool, lovely news, many congratulations! scones were gorgeous, thanks.
Hope Wombat is ok, she should have had aquazumba this morning so will hopefully be feeling refreshed.

Hi lovely ladies. Sorry to have been so quiet. Everything ticketyboo with us, just silly busy at work (3 weeks to go yay!) and silly tired at night. Have been chuckling at yellow and sparkly's sharing and openness. Not too wet down under yet but v common I hear.

Thrilled to bits to hear your news mana. I also got goosebumpy! Many congrats on the safe arrival of your little girl and I hope the healing process is quick.

ANd yellow - a girl!! Fab news. For some reason I thought you were going to be team yellow but being in mi5 I guess they have to know these things for security purposes.....! Would put a smiley in but this iPad makes it toooooo hard!

Great to hear from you kool and please do hang around. Wonderful news to get to 12+3!

Sorry to hear you're suffering so badly worm - did you speak to doc about it. In the end? Hope youre taking it easy when you can. Special iced bun for you.

Re pillows - I am making do with one between my knees as I think it aligns your hips more, but best to experiment, probably not when you get into b
ed as you'll be taking ages to work out the best position and not sleeping!

Well I seem to have achieved fame at last..... A journo from one of the local papers came to one of our aqua aerobics classes to take pics etc and lo and behold there is a pic of me with the others and a quote from me too about how good it is to do during pg! It is available as a link, but not sure about posting it here!

Sorry again for lack of posting. Will try harder!

He he x post yellow and sparkly. Not convinced about the perineum massage thing but each to their own! Have you seen the epi-no? Now that would be interesting to see if anyone has put up a YouTube vid on that!

I ventured off the spreadsheet slightly this morning and did aqua yoga instead of aqua zumba - liovely and stretchy which was great for my back - ended up at my physio yesterday as I overdid the swimming on tues night - v cross with myself as I had been doi ng so well with my back til now. She taped it up to help things along but it wasn't until I got undressed last night and dh peed himself laughing as it's a big x and apparently looks like a big target! Needless to say I positioned myself at the back of this morning's class as I am bikini-clad as no tankinis or swimsuits here offer decent enough norkage support or under wiring!

congrats mana on the birth of your daughter!!! i was begining to think everyone was going to be having boys!
Congrats too yellow another girl too yay for team opink! well i have one week and 2days and im counting the days was a week early with DD so it could be anytime, will keep you posted. Congrats to kool too how nice to hear all the success stories/ ope everyone is well sorry if ive forgot any one elses news x

Hello all

wombat you can't just disappear like that, I was starting to get worried. I would love to see the pic of you in the newspaper Sorry to hear you've hurt your back, hope the physio does the trick. I have no idea what an epi-no is, is it safe to google at work?

sparkly thanks for the pillow input, I think I must be a bit thick but is the v shaped pillow to support your shoulders or between the legs for hips?

wow nurse one week to go, how exciting, be sure to let us know as soon as you're done.....

So has no-one here tried the massage thing or knows anyone who has? Come on worm and harassed you've done it before....you must know something? It does sound rather icky to me but if it avoids tearing I may consider it.....not sure really.

Am sooooooo tired today, maybe some caffeine will help....

Morning and thanks for the lovely welcome back . Yellow you're good! I'm due on 2nd April. Still an Aries? Do we like that? I've no idea...

Yellow I know nothing about specialist massage but since embarking on the whole ivf thing I've become a Zita West fan and as well as being suckered into buying her vitamins (expensive, but they do come in a frosted glass bottle....sucker, me? My sister described me as 'an advertiser's dream'!!) she also does a lovely range of skin products, including this - if Zita West sells it, it can't be mucky!

Nice try Yellow, no-one's biting! What does it entail? External, hopefully, just pop some oil to the area and massage? Well it can do no harm I would imagine (though careful which oil you use, some essential oils would not be recommended). Have a whirl and let us know how you get on......
Re the pillow, it can be whatever you want, tis multi-functional. It props me up like a granny in bed to take tea and my daily ginger biscuit first thing, and at night I have it against my back or front, cuddling it, with the end between my knees to align my pelvis (though it's most comfortable lying down on my back with it evenly between my shoulder-blades). I think you'd find one useful Yellow, it's only £7.99 though you do have to venture into Asda to get one, so brace yourself!
Yes, don't you be making us nervous Wombat, disappearing like that! Are you getting excited, feels like we haven't too long to go now! I'm off to John Lewis tonight to buy an overpriced changing mat with elephants on, yay!

Kool, at 'Pre-conditioning down under'!
Right, I'm having a go.....will start off with olive oil until I know it's for me.
DH is going to love this........"I'm just pre-conditioning, babes!"

Loving the fanny massage chat girls...............Unfortunately it wasn't something I ever did, my friend did used to "shove olive oil up there" and reckons it helped, she didn't get any stiitches or tears.
As this time I am officially too posh to push, it's something I don't have to worry about (I won't be grinning when I am stuck in the hospital for 3 nights with the snoring escapees from Jeremy Kyles waiting room though)

Great news on the successful 12 week IVF kool fancy not telling us!! Do stick around. I have joined the January group which is as yellow said bursting at the seams, there are only about 5 ladies who actually talk regulary and they all talk about pussy's (of the feline kind) and making cakes. Neither of which I can get involved in, so I tend to stick to this group of ladies when they decide to talk............yes wombat and harassed I am looking at you!

Great news nurse please pop back and gives us the details...............I love a birth story, the more details the better :)

So I went to see the midwife about my "down below ishoes" apparently it is the ligaments softening and weakening, SPD but not as severe. I could self refer to the physio, and they would prescribe a tubagrip type thing to support the baby's weight. I will have a go at fashioning something like this myself over the weekend. The thought of 14 more weeks of this is very depressing! but I'll live! She measured my bump, which is apparently bigger than it should be with lots of water!
Ds has his second school exam tomorrow, I was a nervous wreck last week and promptly burst into tears the minute he was out of sight! DD thought it was hilarious until I explained I had done exactly the same 2 years earlier with her!
They have to go to the Grammar to sit it, which makes it all the more daunting. At least we only have to wait 3 weeks for the results, and the other schools are looking a more viable option than I had feared, so que-sa-ra! DS isn't bothered in the slightest which school he goes to!

Have a lovely restful weekend Ladies