so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

Hello Wellie glad the doctor is paying attention, I hope you get the answers you want...
Well after my really low HCG(4 days before AF due) I had another set done last week, they were up to 572 on 16dpo which is on the high side of average!
Still feeling really odd, emotional and stressed, so am going to the docs on Tuesday to campaign for the progesterone suppositories - if I go back to the private specialist she will charge a fortune - may as well try the NHS first!

Worm I have seen Ange in the west end recently and she is as beautiful in real life

Morning all

wellie that sounds very positive, it's good to get taken seriously and get the ball rolling. Let's hope for some good answers too.

worm that does sound odd, I can't wait until I can feel movements...just 16 weeks today so have a little while to wait.....but my belly is enormous, someone asked if I was sure I had my dates correct

wombat I guess it's weird to move between clinics but I am yet to see the same midwife twice. I'm just resigned to that as part of London 'care'. I wanted to check with you again about the aspirin....we're still meant to be taking it right? Cos when I went to get some more the other day the pharmacist refused to give it to me without a doctors prescription which made me worry a bit. I just went to a different chemist and picked it up....my acupuncturist recommended I take it but I haven't mentioned it to any of the midwives....

Am seeing the midwife on wed to listen to the heartbeat, am feeling a little bit nervous that there will be nothing there....it is just such a weird 'limbo' time.

emma hurrah for the increased hgc and good luck with getting drugs from the doctor.

I've bought a selection of warm pastries, pain au raisin, pain au chocolat, croissant and a special danish lemon thing-y with white icing....please dig in.

Hi Girls
I hope everyone is well, it has gone very quiet around here.......
Excellent news on the increased hcg think positive, this will be a sticky one.
It is very nerve wracking being PG yellow I am loving my doppler, can find the heartbeat every time, so I listen to it at least once a day, it's great fun chasing it around my belly. I am 19 weeks today and don't feel movements every day, far from it.
Sounds like you had a lovely break wellie and good news on the pro-active ozzy healthcare.
Are you lurking sparkly (hope you had a fun time at the meet up give us the deets) star wombat harassed hope you are all ok

Morning all - yes, very quiet indeed around here.... hope everyone is ok. I've been a bit slack of late too but all is well other than a minor panic this morning when wombatjunior wasn't turning his usual somersaults post first cuppa. I think he was just having a lie-in as all back to normal now. Oh, and I experienced a leg cramp for the first time around 4 this morning - extraordinarily painful and I keep looking at my calf expecting it to show signs of distress as I can't believe something that sore can result in nothing. Has made me realised that perhaps I have a very low pain threshold - eek!

Good luck at the midwife tomorrow yellow and thanks for the goodies! Don't worry about being big - have you ever seen this interactive link of what happens to you inside to make room for the bub? Quite incredible and no wonder we suffer from constipation, breathlessness etc. Oh, re: the asprin - both ob/gyns said keep taking it up to 32 weeks. There is a small school of thought that it can promote bleeding but from what I have read there are larger schools of thought that do encourage taking it and 75mg is such a small amount....

Very, very pleased for you wellie that you have such a pro-active doctor to help you. When do you and DH have all the tests? Great you had such a nice weekend too.

Good news on the HCG levels emma - it is a strange limbo time - not wanting to believe it's going to happen, yet desperately hoping for it at the same time. Lots of hand holding available here as you know. Good luck with getting the prog supps - I only took 1 a day, but I know other people take up to 4 a day.....

Are you back from hols worm and did you have a lovely time? Great that you have the doppler for reassurance - I wonder if i will cave at some point...

I also wonder how the rest of you ladies are doing - marathon, sparkly, harassed - what news from your beans? Hope all is ticking along nicely.

We're off for 8 nights to the Czech Republic and Germany on Friday - can't wait to get out of this heat and into some fresh air and greenery and it will be lovely to spend some time with just DH - our last hols were in NZ in Feb which were spent mostly with both sets of parents and then of course had the slightly stressful time with the earthquake at the end - here's hoping for a totally uneventful break!

Waves to all x

Yup, lurking!
Had a poor night's sleep last night, felt I couldn't breathe that well so sat propped up by pillows cuddling my childhood teddy bear (seem to have forgotten I am 37). It's happened twice now, I think it's Monty moving, and the pressure of my massive boobs! My boss has looked all concerned and told me to ring a midwife, just glared at her but will do some sneaky research on mn. Sure breathlessness is quite normal, especially when lying down and everything is squished.
The meet-up on Saturday was great, there were 6 of us and everyone was lovely. All due December-ish apart from one lady who had a 2.5 yr old and a 7 week old baby girl, both adorable. She was tired but exuded a happy calmness, which I am hoping to harness. Everyone was very excited, and seemed to have ordered their nursery suite already which made me feel quite unprepared, we still haven't got much further than Fungus the Bogeyman! Ordering the cotbed this weekend, it really feels like things are moving quickly now, what with me having to notify work next week on dates for my mat leave, and getting the MATB1 form in.
It's actually happening!
Wombat, as soon as I read "here's hoping for a totally uneventful break!" I have to say I pictured Martin Lewis in a cream suit and the tanks moving in! My last holiday was to Grange over Sands by the way so you're not doing too badly! Dsis wants us to go with her and the girls to Centre Parcs in Sept, I can't think of anything worse! Haven't got kids to indulge, can't get drunk to blot out the horror, and can't take part in any activities (you know how sporty I am! )
Anyone for a wedge of white toast and melty presidente butter?

But there is always the spa sparkles! Glad you are alive and kicking
Thanks wombat Holiday was ok-ish as much as staying with the in laws ca be! Glad to be home and back to decorating !

He he - you made me laugh about your image of my holidays sparkly - mind you, I do find there is something slightly sexy about Martin Lewis

I love Centerparcs but can imagine it's some people's worst nightmare... I think they do archery if that's of any interest..... otherwise, go with worm's great suggestion - I've been fortunate enough to have been given 2 x preg massages as bday presents and they've both been deeeeevine. Sounds like you could do with one worm - hols with PILs are not really hols! How is miniwormshuffler these days?

So fab to hear about the meet-up sparkly - did anyone look like you were expecting them to? Are you meeting again? Re: the breathlessness - check out the link I posted above - it's incredible how squished our lungs get, plus extra boobage as you say and did you know there's an unbelievable extra 1.2kg of blood we're carrying out by the end of pg? The heart has to work extra hard to pump it all around so it's no wonder we're knackered!

HI everyone, just thought I'd drop in to say hi and see how everyone's doing. Good to see all beans cooking nicely and some progress for those still waiting for their BFP. I am now 3 and a half weeks away from my elective cs and fingers crossed, a new baby! After the first 4 or 5 months dragging time now seems to be flying past. Not posting/reading much as I have black spots in front of my eyes to add to all my other rubbish symptoms. Take care all x

hello ladies

I'm working from home and having a rubbish day, please cheer me up by providing nice things to eat.

Wow manamana how exciting to soon have your baby. Our first grad!

Meet up sounds fun sparkly how is the breathlessness going? Hope it's improved a bit.

Martin Lews wombat off on anothe holiday, it's all go with you isn't it? When is your due date? I think mine seems so far away because it's next year, I think it would seem a lot sooner if it was this year even if it were at the end of the year iyswim. Midwife isn't actually until tomorow, am looking forward to hearing heartbeat, at least I'll know something is going on in there and it isn't just over eating causing the swelling.

Can't wait to go on holiday, 10 days to go!

Help yourself to the pile of muffins yellow - cheese and tomato, pumpkin seed, chocolate and blueberry to get you started! It was v funny the other night - was in a v nice french restaurant and order a "mojito de verdure" (I think) which was a virgin mojito made with mint and yellow tomato! It was delicious, but felt a bit odd drinking my mn buddy! Good luck with the m/w today and let us know how it goes.

Due date is 24 November and I am 26 weeks today - eeek! only another 2 weeks til I'm in the dreaded 3rd trimester - ladies with dc already - is it as bad as they say?

Thanks for dropping in mana - can't believe you are so close! Sorry to hear about the black spots - here's to an uneventful next 3 and a bit weeks - keep us posted!

Waves to all - hols tomorrow so might not be around much xx

I've got EXCITING NEWS!!!

MrsB33 can't log in today for some reason but has asked me to share her news....... she got a BFP yesterday!! I'm nearly in tears here for her, but huuuge congratulations .

Off to catch up, back in a bit x

OMG, that's lovely lovely news! Aww, the saucy mare!
Huge congratulations MrsB33, come on soon and give us an update x

OMG!!!! mrsb33 I am so so happy for you

Well, you know what they say about giving up hope and then something happens.... - hopefully it will work for me too soon :)

Please come talk to us soon!

mrsb33 wowweeeee, how exciting, that's made my day. When did you find out? Did you test early? Did you have symptoms? What do you think worked? Did you do extra sexing or something? We need DETAILS!

Really am soooooooooo happy for you, and excited.

Thanks for the muffins wombat today is going much better. i was vindicated in my troubles yesterday.....I AM VICTORIOUS. That'll learn them to mess with me

Health wise I'm feeling so much better this week, I think it's cos I worked from home for 2 days and so didn't have to get on the stinky old tube. And I'm leaving in about 15 mins for my m/w appt. happy days!

Come on mrsb33 where are you????

Goosepumps city!!!! excellent news mrsb told you it would happen if you started the thread!!! Wellie you are starting the next one!!

Loving the "extra sexing" expression yellow come back on and tell us how the midwife session went.

goes off with a warm and fuzzy feeling.

"That'll learn them to mess with me"
Yellow, have you made them disappear? Someone's propping up a bridge somewhere
I am still all glowy about mrsb but uneasy about the prompting on her 'sexing sessions', we've been here before and have been aghast!

Mid wife went well, it was v quick, not much chatting. BP fine, wee all good (not sure what they are looking for?) and listened to the heartbeat.

So all good but I'd really love to have another scan.....oh well only about 4 more weeks to wait!

Off to pregnancy yoga now!

Oh MrsB is still not here!

Yellow glad all was well. They're looking for protein and I think sugar in your wee. Protein can indicate a uti or poss pre-eclampsia much later on and the sugar is diabetes I think. Sure I should know these things by now!

Who mentioned Centre Parcs? Don't do it! Especially with other people's kids - yuck. You'll have plenty of time for these tortures pleasures when your own bundles are bigger! I sat on the beach on Monday. It was bloody FREEEZING!!! But I'd promised dd so it had to be done...... Plus dh drove and ignored my directions because obviously he knows better. So it took 2.5 hours instead of about an hour to even get there.

Sorry not been around. Had a few days off work and haven't been near the pc apart from odd FB.

All is well though. I was 22 weeks yesterday!! Relieved and amazed. Feeling fine, just tired today having been kept awake by the flaming cat! She's lucky to be alive . Spd is a bit twingy, have obviously been doing too much housework! I wish dh would read the leaflet about what makes it worse.

hello, ive managed to log on, yyeeeeeeeeeeeaaaa!!

so an update, got my bfp on wednesday evening, did 2 pound tests in the morning and got a very faint positive after 5 minutes of waiting so thought evap???? so brought a clear blue test that day and it came up a BPF!!!
We over the moon, its been a long 11 months of trying and starting on fertility tests ect, we were both extreamly stressed!

we didnt do anything different this month apart from the clear blue ovulation monitor that i was kindly given, and extra BONKING OF COURSE!!!
Dh has been taking menavit and weve been cutting back on the dreaded booze and caffine, so not sure if that helped!

if im honest im feeling very anxious at the moment, got a achy tummy almost period esk?? constipation and bad WIND!!! and today a headache, extreme sickness and tiredness!!

Going to see if the midwife will get me in for an early reassurance scan as lost baby 1 at 8 weeks so the next 4 weeks are going to be nerve racking for me!

happy waves to everyone.

Hello mrsb33 how exciting. It really is a nerve wracking time, but we're all here to hold your hands. My gp referred me for early scans straight away, I hope you have the same luck. Not sure the system where you live but her I have to go to GP and he sets it all in motion including midwife appt etc so you might get something quicker rather than waiting for midwife? Sounds like you've got a lot of symptoms, which although are gruesome are also a good sign.

Hey harassed I'm not sure why I didn't just ask what they are checking for...it's like I forget what I want to know when I'm in with the midwife. I wanted to ask a pate question. There is this v nice 'pate' which is actually smoked salmon with cream cheese......but still on the banned pate list. But what is the risk? If it is listeria couldn't I just get DP to eat it and if he's not ill the next day I can have some? Cos even though not pg he'd still be ill if he got listeria? 22 weeks, that's impressive are you feeling a lot of movement?

I've got so much work to do but I just can't seem to get started - must focus. I've been looking at Ofsted reports for nurseries - we're visiting one this weekend and I'm not sure what to ask....any ideas?

Welcome to the mentaling mrsb I'm still feeling so chuffed for you re getting a early re-assurance scan, I didn't do it as I pretty much pretended I wasn't PG until about 10 weeks, but that's just my coping mechanism, assuming the worst, hoping for the best...... Maybe you could get one at 8 and a half weeks when you have passed where you got to last time? It does sound like you have a lot of symptoms, I had the cramping thing up until 14 weeks, so it's not a bad sign, just the baby getting gripped on and the uterus stretching. Did you have symptoms with the M/c this early? as I always see them as a healthy sign and didn't really get any with my MC but loads this time. Anyway I am babbling now.
yellow re the listeria thing, yes that is what they worry about, and I think it is because it is more of a risk to you than the baby IYSWIM. I have been having cream cheese and salami toasties for the last 10 weeks and am fine.

I very nearly bought and consumed a bottle of wine last night, my usually great DH proper p'eed me off and I really wanted one! But I resisted and have finished sulking now. I think I am feeling over sensitive, but I have jealousy over the amount of time he spends on football! could be worse he could be in the pub or out with other women! but the final straw was yesterday when he finished work early and rather than home and spent time with his family he chose to drive a 95 mile round trip so he could play football for the third time this week, then when he did finally arrive home spent hours sorting out the fantasy football league on the computer. Speaking of being a wag where is our resident wag star82 she must be gone way past 12 weeks now and I havn't seen a big announcment on FB or the pages of ok magazine! say hi if you are lurking!

Keep your eyes open for that SPD harrased lets hope the twinges dont turn into anything as that sounds awful!

I love centreparks personally, but it would be rubbish without being able to go on all the slides (and you wouldnt catch me in a swimming costume in front of real humans anyway) and take part in half of the activities, also the whole BBQing and drinking wine thing is my favorite part.

I'm off to look at a nearly new pram this weekend, its a real bargain at £60 and does everything I want it to, I am trying to save as much money as possible as I really don't want to go back to work until my older DC's are old enough to be left on their own in the school holidays, so say 3 years. All my family will have moved away by christmas and it's really hard sorting out childcare for a 12 year old. Also I wouldn't be working for the money as once you take out childcare fees for the baby I would come home with £300 a month!! definately not worth it!

Sorry for the enormous post, I am up early can't do anything noisy yet!

Waves to all

Wow, MrsB congratulations!!!
My GP would not do any early scans as I have only had one MC, so the private consultant asked me to come in for the progesterone and an early scan and I saw a heartbeat at 6 weeks! still not reassured yet as it's a long way to go but it was the first hurdle...

Waiting for the bill for the scan to come through but it will be worth it.

So I am fanjo-ing every night with the progesterone - how lovely!
I was anti centre parcs until we had DD, now we find it very very relaxing because if she is entertained then we are relaxed!

I am going next week with some friends but feeling so tired and sick (wasn't this sick last time) and can't go on any of the slides / spa so hope they don't think I am a spoilsport.
Also no wine with the BBQ etc

Mrsb I have also been getting cramps, not severe just like mild period pain, I seem to remember having them before but you know what it's like, every twinge is now nerve wracking.

Yellow re the nursery questions, I found outside time important as well as the food that they provide, however I really couldn't judge any until I had DD and then I just got good feelings about one and couldn't stand the others!

Yay for emmabean and the heartbeat, early days but we are all here for you!

I will be cheering from the sidelines this month, as DH is having .....ahem.....issues, think it is nerves about giving his SA sample on Sat, exhausted as we tried all weekend to DTD but it just didn't happen, so unfortunately that's another cycle gone.......

MrsB glad you managed to get on!! Congratulations again! How are you feeling??

Emma yay to a hb! I saw a hb at 6 weeks too........ I took it as a good sign (it was, obviously) as it's not always possible to see one so early.

yellow yes, it's the listeria. I'd risk it personally! Or make your own. Mum used to make one which was tuna or smoked mackerel or smoked salmon whisked up the Magimix with some mayo/cream cheese, lemon juice and seasoning. And yes, getting lots of movements now! Placenta is anterior though so dh can't feel them which is weird.

wellie huge ((()))'s. It must be very stressful for both of you lovely.

worm I have similar issues with dh at the moment.

Training twice a day, fight coming up, plus his mum's in hosp so he's over there a lot. It just leaves me to do everything!! Oh and he's showing little interest in Bug too. Last night was the last straw. We were going to the fight together, it's his first one and I'm a bit wobbly about watching someone trying to beat up my husband. But oh no, his trainer (a woman just to add insult to injury) says she'll pick him up and take him. He mustn't be stressed, can't see me before the fight blah, blah, blah. So I have to make my own way to a place I don't know, which isn't normally a prob but is at the moment for some reason. Anyway, I'll cope with that, I'm just sick of this bloody woman dictating things. I was really upset last night but didn't show it. I couldn't sleep, so ended up downstairs bawling my eyes out. He hasn't a clue, and I don't want to upset him before the fight. But afterwards we will be having a "discussion".

Bug stopped moving on Saturday evening which sent me into panic mode. All was well though on Sunday am at mw check, they're fitted me in straight away. Said a pattern is unusual this early, but it was the right thing to do. He also did a mammoth kick last night! Big enough to see my tummy move! I have an anterior placenta so he's either very strong or has a great aim to miss the placenta . It's weird that dh can't feel him kicking, when I can feel it so strongly!

Morning all!!!!

Well, well, well mrsb.....bloody fantastic news :)!!!!! I bet you're so excited and we're all clearly very, very pleased for you and DH.

Sorry worm, i've been lurking but seem to be on and off all the time. The kids have kept me busy and we've had DH's nephew up to stay for a few days.

Not sure if i have mentioned but nuchal came back at 1 in 2800 which they said is low risk although i seem to have seen some people have 1 in 50,000 which doesn't make it seem that great. Saw midwife on wednesday and my iron/hb results came back at 10.5 :(. Normal range is 11.9-14.9 i think but i expected this as i'm always on iron tablets with the other pregnancies. Bit pissed off with the midwife to be honest though as i mentioned my iron levels will probably drop at the booking in appt and she was saying to get some spatone from boots and then hopefully they should be ok. Well get to boots and realise it's 8 pound for a box of 28 sachets so i thought i'll leave it for now cos if mine are low, i'm entitled to a free prescription. By putting myself on spatone, i'll show up normal levels therefore not getting it free. Anyway, cut to midwife's appt on wednesday and she goes on about spatone again. I asked about iron tablets and she says they prefer not to put us on them as can cause constipation/upset stomach. I told her, i've never experienced those problems before whilst taking them but she kept pushing bloody spatone on me. Now, me being me, i wanted to have a go and tell her i'm entitled to free health care whilst pregnant and unless she can put spatone on prescription then i'm asking her for a prescription for iron tablets. However, i'm a complete shit head and bottled it and just sat there neither agreeing i would buy it nor demanding a prescription. I felt like i was being really tight. I went and got some anyhow on 3 for2 at boots but when i read the dosage, you actually have to take 2 sachets a day so a box isn't quite going to last half a month so 16 pound a month for another 5 months is going to mount up. I'm really angry at her to be honest and might go straight to the doctor and ask for a prescription rather than challenge her again. Made it hard cos she does it in a very patronising smiley, smiley way so i felt awkward saying what i was really thinking.

Oh, and also..........booked a sexing scan which is at tea time today! Can't wait so providing baby is still there and everything looks ok, you can expect a big facebook announcement this evening Worm!!