so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

Pressed post too quick on phone! ewcm was v odd and came and went so I think we missed it this month so on to cycle 7 we go, bit sad as conceived on cycle 6 last time so I now am convinced there is something wrong with me! Completely ridiculous!

Meantime found out dsil is having a team pink double so I will be buying many pink things!!

Waves!!!

Morning all from the sandpit! Got back at 2am yesterday, straigh to work then v annoyingly woke up at 5am this morning and couldn't get back to sleep - grrrrr..... consequently yawning my head off today! Had a fab meet-up with my old friend who is also a midwife and she gave me lots of fab tips about labour etc. There was so much more I could have asked, but I didn't want to turn it into work for her.

You will never get over your reputation mrsb - may as well make the best of it and fill our imaginations with your sexual shenanigans whether they are true or not! - heaven forbid what might happen if you and worm ever met up

Good to hear from you wellie and yay for double pink neices! How are you feeling about that these days? I had odd EWCM for a few of my cycles so perhaps all is not lost and you know that seven's a lucky number! If you did want to go down the testing route, can that be done fairly simply over there?

How did your firend react to your news yellow? Was it lovely to be able to spill the beans at last? Re: the doppler - I was speaking to my GP about it the other day and she said that you're far more likely to notice abnormal movements before any changes to the heart rate occur and that if you are worried about abnormal movements then the best place to be is at the docs rather than at home with your own doppler worrying about it. It seemed quite sensible advice to me - enough to make me change my mind about getting one.

How are the newly pg doing? cuttlefish, marathon, purple and littlewhitewolf ? How are the smptoms/ no symptoms rollercoasters coming along?

Hello harassed - how are you doing? Does your wriggler still have dopplerphobia? Hope all is well.

Better go - think I need a power nap in the loos! waves to all xx

Morning ladies,
Just back from my 20 week scan and all is well! What a relief. Measuring the right length (DH tells me 5mm, clearly this is not correct), little heart thumping away, spine like a spooky prehistoric amphibian, giant eyes like an ant....not sure I am meant to find my unborn so alien-like!
And...............it's a baby boy!
So excited now we know what it is, it seems very real. His little todge was obscene, no mistaking that! Now I can get shopping for cute alien gender-stereotypical outfits, yay! (though his first teddy is a black and white kitten)
Happy happy happy, love to all x

Ahh excellent news *sparkly happy shopping !

Welcome back home wombat it can't be long until you pack up work is it? I remember you saying you were going to have quite a while off? Re the doppler, I am finding it a comfort, although I rarely fing the heartbeat, I can hear it thrashing around in there which is good on the days where I can't feel it. I can see how i could have the opposite effect thogh too.

Don't give up hope wellie it aint over yet!

Good there was no nasty phone call yellow I am now awaiting My letter too, although she did say it would be more like 2 weeks if high risk, and it is 3 weeks tomorrow, so I am feeling a little better. With the DC's I was about 1 in 38,000, think it will be a lot lower this time now I am "geriatric"!

Hurrah sparkly how exciting, a blue one.......so happy that all was good with the scan, you can now go shopping crazy!

wellie it ain't over until it's over.......fingers crossed. The month it worked for me was one when we only did it once round the right time so you never know.

wombat how does it feel to be back in the sandpit? It was nice telling my friend but her reaction was strangely muted, dunno if I went on about it too much? Difficult to know really. This is the week to tell family, DPs sister is arriving on Wed so we'll tell her Thurs, phone DPs parents on Fri and visit mine on Sunday. I've thought about telling the parents for so long, I actually feel a bit weird and shy about it now that the time is almost here. Does that make any sense at all?

Hope you get the 'good' letter soon worm it's so awful making you wait so long. The nurse told me if all was fine she'd post the letter Monday so I'm hoping to get it tomorrow as they always send letters first class for some reason, even my appt for December came first class! I wonder if I'll just get a 'fine' or if they'll give me that actual probability. I read in one book that my age alone gives 1 in 190

How are all the 'early days' ladies doing?

Yay for a blue one sparkly!
I know it ain't over but can feel af on the way, just want her to hurry up and get here so we can get on with next month.

Wonder how all the new ladies are?

Waves!!!

Brill news sparkly, i can't wait to find out!! Geriatric worm, will you find out? You have have DS's and DD's so are you swaying to one or the other? I Have one of each so not really having a preference. DS would love a boy although there would be nearly 9 years between them and DD changes her mind all the time. In a way, another DD would be nice as she is closer in age to the baby for them to have more of a common interest but she has been soooo much harder work than DS . Think DH would like another boy to play football with, haha!!!

Good luck Wellie :)

How is marathon, cuttlefish and purple and anyone else i've missed out who's in the early stages or having lots of SWI??

I caved an hired a doppler . Have found heartbeat on occasion but hasn't reached any higher than about 140 bpm ish (that's is doppler is accurately callibrated). It's a babysonic one. If it is that low, it makes me think a boy which is what i think anyway. We didn't have any SWI leading up to ovulation and then did it the day of EWCM and the day after, and then 2 days after that so according to Shettles, i'd say boy. Will be interesting to find out :)

I am team yellow here star with DD12 and DS will be 10 I think it adds to the excitement! DD wants a girl, an DS is not fussed! and nore am I to be honest. DH is desperate to know though. My doppler is a cheapy which doesnt tell me the HR, I can find HB daily now after some time, not sure if I am going to keep up the hiring of it once the movements get more noticable.

Are you finding out yellow, I know wombat didn't but feels baby will be a boy.

The red witch aint singing yet wellie hang on in there!

Well it looks like we have lost another cat to the A1, ours has been missing a few days now and there is one matching his description about a mile and a half down. Conveniently on a bridge so no chance of getting a closer look/ collecting him up. that is it no more cats for us, thats 2 now lost to that road.

I am sooooo excited for you sparkly - how lovely it's a wee boy! So pleased that the scan went so well too, although a bit concerned your DH thinks it's only 5mm! It has made me so tempted to find out but we're going to stick with team yellow for now even though we are convinced it's blue - my mum also said it's a boy by the way I'm carrying - my memory is not as good as star's when it comes to conception time - I think we just did it lots! STill holding out for a pink one though!

Are you going to find out yellow? Sorry your friend was a bit muted - does she have DC herself? Totally know what you mean about being shy around the parents - I'm not sure if it has something to do with the fact that it's admitting you've actually had sex (and probably more than once too ) or because you've rehearsed it so many times. I was still a bit embarassed around my dad last week despite being this far on..... Did you get bloods taken at last scan? If so, they should give you the actual stats, I think.

Love the fact your DD is swinging between blue and pink worm and lovely you have one of each already. V sorry to hear about your poor cat . Hope your good news letter comes really soon x

What's your average cycle length wellie? Still got my fingers crossed here for you.

Now where's harassed these days? Hope all is ok with you.

And how are all the newbies doing? Hope we haven't scared you off with us being a wee bit further along than you guys....

A good question re: how I'm feeling yellow - I always struggle the first couple of days coming back from whenever we've been away - grass is always greener and all that. It was a really special time to be back and to be with my oldest friends who really know me well - I would dearly love to be back with them at this time of massive change and it was lovely sharing stories etc. with my mum..... so it's been tough coming back this time although DH has been wonderful - he knows me well enough to know I needed a bit of TLC. The other slight issue for me is with the new villa. Being back at my bro and sis-in-law's and mum and dad's was so familiar and cosy and our new place is far from cosy - I had forgotten how much I miss carpeted floors instead of tiled floors - weird, I know. I'm hoping that I'll be fine in a week or so when I've got more used to living in it. The good news is I'm getting regular kicks which just make me giggle most of the time!

Waves to all x

I'm here! Sorry been busy .

Sparkly fab news!!! Seems to be a glut of blue scans lately, and I know that's what dh is hoping for next week. Happy shopping!!

Yellow does your friend have children? Or maybe they're ttc? Or maybe she's just not a "baby" person? My sister has no interest what so ever. No congratulations, nothing! How's the sickness now?

wellie you're still in there! Fingers x'd for you x

worm sorry about your cat, that's awful . Although you can have mine , shes' driving me nuts and I'm always threatening to find her a new home!

wombat pink ones are little pickles!! Although the shopping is great fun .

star we tried Shettles for a couple of months, then got fed up with and decided any baby would be great .

How are all our newbies getting on????

So, I'm falling to bits!!! Phone birthing centre with a couple of queries yesterday, and they said to pop up as they're just 2 mins down the road from me. So I have a referral to a physio for my spd twinges, and mw thinks my swollen fingers and pins and needles are the start of carpal tunnel. I had both with dd, but not this early!!!! Or maybe I just know what I'm looking for this time. I was also worrying about lack of movement, despite being able to pick up the hb on the doppler, so she listened and had a feel of my tummy and apparently I have loads of room left so I reckon my bug has turned right the round! And still has dopplerphobia . So add in swollen ankles and legs by the end of day....... ooooh I'm sooo attractive .

Hello all! Have been trying to catch up with all your posts, it all sounds very exciting. Sparky a boy! How lovely, I'm sure he'll be Mummy's little soldier

Wombat thank you for the goodies, it worked! It was the choccie brownies that got me in the end. Glad you enjoyed your trip, although the weather must put you off coming back a little bit?

Wellie fx for you! A pink double act sounds like fun and hard work at the same time. Those teenage years will be interesting...

No news here, I'm 6+4 today, haven't really had any symptoms. Felt uneasy yesterday (not sick, but like you do when you're a bit drunk, not that you'd all know...) but that seems to have gone today. Hoping all is ok and just waiting.

waves to everyone

BTW, I just looked up Shettles as I hadn't heard of it before, vinegar douching...

Haven't been on for ages because of work, I've missed loads! Was tempted back by Wombats lovely baked goodies!

Wombat and Hassled thank you for the reassurance. Think I will pay for an early scan to put my mind at ease.

I'm still mentalling with my "symptoms". Sore boobs, and feeling sick occasionly, but it's not enough!! I want my head in the toilet bowl!!

Congratulations LittleWhiteWolf! Good luck at the doctors on getting an early scan. I still haven't heard from the midwives yet.

Good news at your scan Sparkly! Baby boy - oh the joy! He's your little alien, and you love him, obscene todge and all. Have fun shopping!!

Fingers crossed you won't see AF this month Wellie, if you do, give her a swift kick from me.

Hmmm.... I wonder if I leave out warm croissants with posh French butter and Bonne Maman jam if it will tempt purple and littlewhitewolf out too! Great to hear from you marathon and cuttlefish - the symptom spotting / wishing is completely normal - may you have as many as you want for reassurance, but not so many that you feel compeltely dreadful - fingers tightly crossed fro you both in these early days.

Hadn't got to the vinegar douching bit with Shettles and rather glad I hadn't - sounds seriosuly painful!

Good to hear from fallingapartharassed too - you poor thing. When do you start physio? Also, can you describe spd? HAving suffered with lower back issues for years, I'm half expecting it and it would be good to know what to look out for. Are you planning to do pilates or yoga at all? I do yoga once a week and try to do some pilates stuff in the morning (which also double up as pelvic floor exercises too) but don't always succeed. I'm making some enquiries about proper pg pilates tomorrow - will let you know how I get on.

Waves to all!

Im on phone so excuse me please for being brief got my nuchal back was 1 in 249 on age alone altered to 1 in 1000 with bloods so very pleased with that hope all are well .

Hurrah worm that is excellent news, you must be well pleased.

hmm well the croissants brought me out! But only if the jam is rhubarb. I love Bonne Maman rhubarb jam, but bizarrely it seems to be the only flavour they don't stock over here! Sure rhubarb is a very English thing?!

wombat I've been doing prg yoga and it really does help. The teacher is one of the local mw's so got some extra tips off her as I was really sore last night, but had spent the day rushing around! Yoga is finished for the hols now though, so some lucky pub is going to be getting 10+ preg women next Wed . Spd is right down in your pubic bone. As I understand, it's in two parts and the hormones soften the ligaments which can cause the parts to rub and hurt. If I've over done it, it's sore and twingey as in the early stages. Seeing my chiro on Monday, and I'm hoping I can persuade her to manipulate me in the next fews weeks! This gives a good explanation, better than mine!

worm good result!!!

yellow how are you feeling now? I'm 19 weeks today and still getting the odd sicky day, but so much improved! Was a slow improvement though.

cuttle and marathon good to hear from you both. Don't worry about symptoms, it doesn't actually mean anything! I hated the stage you're both at though, so worrying.

Morning everybody!
just coming on to wish everyone happy weekend as we are taking advantage of a long weekend over here to visit some of DH's friends who have moved away and who we haven't seen for years. I will NOT be MN'ing from their house :)

Hugs to those wishing for symptoms and those wishing symptoms would calm down a bit, harassed hope you are doing OK lovely, and worm huge on the nuchal result!

wombat you asked about my average CL - and so I worked it out! (I promise I didn't know off the top of my head!) and it is about 30.5 since the mc and WTF, but ranging from 26-36. First two cycles were long, and the last 3 have been 26-29, so shortening to more "normal". It's irritating though cos it means I haven't got the foggiest when I am late

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend and see you next week!

Waves!!

Hello ladies

wellie it is so annoying when the cycle is irregular, I had the same problem going between 25 and 32 days.

I am going to try pg yoga, haven't been to the gym for 2 months as have been feeling so sick

harassed I am feeling much better overall, still with only about half my usual energy levels though. Only have a couple I sick twinges a day which involve retching but not being sick. Hopefully I will continue to improve! Sorry to hear your problems, hope they improve/don't get worse!

Got my results today 1 in 1100 feel v relieved. Why did they send my scan appt for dec first class and these results second class?

We are about to tell first family member - dp's sister. Exciting!

Quick post from phone on way to airport to say YAY for some more fab nuchal results yellow!!!

See you next week!

Morning!

yellow fab results! How lovely to start telling everyone

wellie have a great time x

I'm doing ok, but having a difficult time. One of my closest friends had a cs yesterday. I knew, I was prepared, but still hit me like a tonne of bricks. Especially as we were meant to be doing it all together. Got our bfp's within days of each other etc, etc. Except of course I had a mmc. So my due date is the 11th, and I just feel a bit weird about it all. Bug has moved right round so not feeling so many movements which has freaked me out and given me irrational thoughts. Plus increased my doppler habit! Was ok before, I'd use it every 2-3 days, but twice last night and again this morning.

Plus dh told me this morning that my dil is preg. Ds1 (not his son) told him yesterday and said he was going to phone me last night. I feel really odd, because dil was talking about selling the pram so I said I'd have it, then apparently ds didn't want to sell it because his dad bought it etc etc. So feel a bit odd about that too......

Sorry huge me, me, me post! Off to get a grip .

Hello, sorry for my absence, I haven't even been lurking, have been feeling really low and didn't want to just gripe and moan...
First round of Clomid over - on the 2ww - we got a :) on CD17 now on CD24 so back rummaging for CM and hoping that the eye strain from work is really a sicky feeling.

I haven't had a chance to catch up on all the goss, but saw that sparkly got a blue one!!

Will go and catch up on you all and the newbies... we have a busy weekend of kids birthday parties lined up so need some sleep :)

Hello all, nothing to report here but I don have a quick question. One of the ladies on another thread I'm on was asking if anyone had any experience of acupuncture when ttc after mc. I know someone here used it and wondered if whoever it was could give me a little summary to take back to her?

No symptoms here, 7 weeks now, trying to burying my head in the sand.

Good luck Emma

Hope you're all ok waves

Morning all

harassed sorry you're having a tough time, it's really difficult when things hit in unexpected ways like that. How are you feeling now? How is the doppler habit? It seems like it is so hard to relax at any stage........hope you are feeling a little better.

emma fingers crossed, did you used to get smiley faces before the Clomid? Do you get CM too as i found that to be a more reliable indicator than the ov sticks but it was very regular and noticeable.

marathon oooh, 7 weeks, are you having an early scan or are you going to wait until 12 weeks? I had acupuncture........I'll tell the whole story and I'm happy for you to pass it on or edit etc........
We started trying in July 2008 and it took a year to get pg....that ended in a mmc, growth stopped at 4/5 weeks but it wasn't detected until i had an early scan at 8 weeks. Mc happened eventually happened naturally at about 11 weeks. Took about another year to get pg again. Had a scan 6.5 all fine, 8.5 pg had ended, had ERPC the next day. Went to see private dr in Harley st for blood tests. As a result of AMH test and FSH he told me I had fertility of 44 yr old (I'm 38) was unlikely to conceive and if I did I'd have 75% chance of mc. He recommended that our best option was IVF with donor eggs.
So I went to see acupuncturist. He was v positive and started me on some chinese herbs and acupuncture every week. This time it 4 months to get pg (but 2 of those months we didn't actually try due to me and dp being in different countries at the 'right' time) He gave me different herbs once pg and I am now nearly 14 weeks and see acupuncturist every 2 weeks.

Sorry that's a bit long........happy to answer any questions.......

So we've started telling our news. We called DPs parents on Friday. He spoke to his Mum and her reaction was 'you're joking' and then gave the phone to his Dad and refused to speak as she didn't think it was a funny joke! She eventually realised we weren't joking but response was a little muted. His Dad had wandered off to make some chips and when he came back on the phone said 'so have you been to the Olympic park yet?' WTF??????

So we're telling my parents today and hoping for a better reaction.......

I'm still feeling sick on and off but it is getting a bit better. I still get v tired by 10pm which is annoying, I want to be a full of energy pg person.......

Hope everyone is enjoying the lovely sunshine..........

Yellow thanks so much for that. I've copied it verbatim and will add a link to this thread so that she can ask further questions if she wants to.

I'm not sure about an early scan. I had one with the mmc at 7 weeks and all was well (saw hb etc) but then by the time we got to the 12 week scan it had all gone tits up, so I don't think I'll find an early scan that reassuring. I haven't had any symptoms this time (as was also the case with the mmc) but I did have symptoms with my DD so I'm convinced this one has gone the same way as the mmc. The idea of a scan fills me with fear as I acutely remember the feeling at the 12 week scan when the sonographer put the probe on my belly and there was just an empty hole with something looking like a wet piece of laundry lying at the bottom. It make me feel sick just thinking of it and I don't think I can face that again.

Do your DP's parents know about the mc? That's a strange reaction, I love the olympic park comment. Maybe he was thinking ahead about you not being able to go next year with a new bambino and all, so he's thinking you should visit now??! Hope your parents were better?

Happy Sunday all!