Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 3

[Curlylox]

As you were ladies

Good Morning everyone(at least it is morning here), I'm just tucking into a nice cup of ginger tea,and have enjoyed reading through.
Deige I had a google and saw that on one site it said :

"Mother's birthing babies who are identified as macrosomatic (in excess of 9.9 lbs.) are more likely to experience shoulder dystocia. Additionally, 15-30% of macrosomatic babies experiencing shoulder dystocia sustain some injury to the brachial plexus. Most of these injuries (80%) resolve by the baby's first birthday."

So it sounds like your DS was just under. My second boy was 8 lbs 13 ounces and my last one was too. My first born was tiny at 6lb 11, and the girls were 7 something. So I don't think it is necessarily true that each consecutive babe will be bigger. After the birth of my 2nd I was told by a the attending Doc that I would be having a C section if I had more kids.Luckily we moved and I got a new doc and the next three babes were born naturally.

However, at this stage of the game I'd do whatever it takes to have a healthy baby.

Hippy, have you started looking for a new house on IOW? Actually I think you said you'd rent for a while? How exciting. It must feel good to have things happening, especially with the move onto clomid(which of course you won't need cos you and I will be up-duffed this month, right?? )

Well, if I am not pregnant this month I'm going to give my body a stern talking to, then will ignore everything it ever says to me again. It is wrong to give me all these symptoms if there's nothing in it. I have gagged on my toothbrush the last couple of nights. Also felt a little bit sick here and there, and my boobs are having those "flashes" of ow and I am having early morning insomnia. I do wonder if I am having fertilized eggs and they aren't implanting. Surely these symptoms aren't just in my head and not a sign of peri-menopause? Perhaps they are? Trying not to test til Tues (11DPo) or Weds.

Hippy, I watched the last episode of series 3 of Being Human, it was fantastic, but I'm heartbroken that Mitchell is gone forever. I see they are going to make a 4th series, but it just won't be the same without Mitchell. I'll still watch it though.

Italian - so pleased for you - that course for controlling eating sounds very good, and it is so exciting that you'll be going for your treatment soon.

Isaboo - I am so sorry that RTD found you. It sucks!

Recommended viewing!

Watch this, ladies, very moving, very humbling!

www.channel4.com/programmes/one-born-every-minute/4od#3178841

here

Bfn cd26 probably 12 dpo

Isaboo Dog walking gives you lots if thinking time. I've shed many a tear on dog walks, sometimes I've sat on a bench in tears & the dog comes and sits by me. I like to think he has sixth sense & knows I'm upset but he's probably thinking 'come on you lazy cow get on with the walk'

Love to all xx

Sorry to panashe for the BFN - maybe too early ??? Sorry for AF turning up isaboo.

gum I was totally in love with Mitchell and was also heartbroken when he 'died'. See how i managed not to spoil the end for you though That was hard!

DS1's first sleep-over has begun. I currently have 5 boys running around my garden staging a shoot-out. KFC and Xbox later !!!!

Hippy are the KFC and Xbox for you and DH or the boys? Confused. I'd have gone straight for the gin, myself .

I agree with Gum. Our symptoms, I am convinced, are us being knocked-up and losing it during implantation 'cos they just aren't perfect enough. Plus I think that sometimes I get those follicular cysts. They give me sharp pains during the tww. Don't think it affects conception. Gosh, I hope not. CD2 here. Didn't bother with the HPT. I had all the symptoms but woke up with flat tummy again half way through the TWW, so knew nothing was going to come of anything. Came on CD26 - that's twice in a row. So, does that officially mean I've gone from a 28 day cycle to a 26 day cycle? Come on perimenopause. I've bought tummy shaper tights and taken out shares in Tena lady. I'm ready for you.

I know how you feel, Isaboo. My dog is uber-sensitive and puts his head on my lap when I cry. So does DP, but to be honest I prefer the dog to do it.

Thanks to everyone the calm of CD2 has arrived feeling better ... lol my cycle length wanders aimlessly between 26 and 30 days think we just keep missing o day as it hops around .... What do you mean you are not in Tena lady and tummy shaper already .... ?

Oh Hippy (pauses for a moment in shared pain.....) that's ugly remember more than 3 hours sleep is a bonus and hiding in your bedroom til their parents come in the morning is fine there are no medals or scores for a good time at a sleepover you just need to survive it ....

Yay for Hippy?s kids, enjoy the fun (kids not grown ups!).

Lovely to read this, it really is beautiful.

www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/may/14/donor-eggs-pros-cons-conception

here

I liked this bit, I have heard of this too. "She also mentioned that a director friend had made a documentary about oocyte donation and discovered that there was evidence of chromosomal crossover between mother and foetus. It made sense, considering the shared blood supply, and I was very happy to hear it."

I was told in summer 2006 (yes, almost 5 years ago) that we would not be able to conceive with my own eggs, I chose not to believe it and we struggled on with attempts with my eggs. It does take some getting used to. I don?t know if it will ever feel easy but I am excited, there is one kind woman out there who is willing to give me some eggs, and I just need to give it all I've got! SO excited!

Love to all.

PS This is not about you ladies, aged 40 plus like me, it is about me, I was told this when I was only just 40 something, it is not about age, it is about my egg supply so please do not take it as comment on anyone else.

That is lovely Italian. It must be reassuring to know you are ttc with nice young eggs. I'd love to do it, but there's no way it would happen for me. I'll just have to keep hoping for a reasonable egg of my own. That statistic the Doc told her - 1% chance at age 44 - that wasn't so lovely.Downright devastating actually. But I'm going to keep the faith and believe I can do it again...even at age 44.

Lol - I had to laugh at your tummy shaper tights and tena lady. I for one am not going into menopause without a fight - I will not go! They'll have to drag me by my hair, kicking and screaming. I want one last baby - please.

Penashe - how long is your LP usually? Perhaps it is too early to test?

As I say Gum these may not be facts and figures for you, they may be for others. Just because she was told 1% may not be relevant for you.

All the best.

Italian I read that article too yesterday. Like gum was depressed at the 1% chance - is that all of us at 44 or was that her eggs?

Lovely fertility friend said I ovulated earlier in the week, which ampleased about even though I know it doesn't really make any difference what FF says! Anyway I'm 5dpo according to that.

Told my mum about our move yesterday and now feel better about the whole thing. Now just need a lease and to apply for schools. Am torn between 2 schools both of which only have 2 places at present. We need to try and predict which one would get a third place first.

panashe it may be too early to test. I have never got a pos that early...

I like this time of the month, I always feel ridiculously hopeful.

BB, it's not ridiculous - we have every right to feel hopeful. I hope we all get our bfp's. I,m feeling very hopeful this cycle. Still having symptoms at 9 dpo. Feel really tempted to test, but know I should hang on a bit longer.

I hope that the 1% rate isn't true for us. And judging by how many over 40's have gotten pregnant on this thread, it must surely be a better rate than 1%. I think Doctor's like to be very conservative with figures so that us oldies don't get our hopes up too high.

I've just got back from my knitting club and feel very relaxed. Three hours of nothing but cups of tea (declined the champagne), great conversation with lovely women and uninterrupted knitting...Bliss!

oh, just thought, could that figure of 1% be for women without proven fertility? Perhaps for those who'd never had a baby before?

BB and Gum the article is about a woman who has no children, not someone who has had several! No idea if that statistic applies to you but think it is unlikely. It was a story about a woman who had no kids and had donor treatment.

Please stop worrying. Just do what you do ladies.

Blessings.

Hippy staggers in rubbing her head in bewilderment and wondering where the last 24 hours went.....

All ok. There were a couple of fall outs (plus Dh knocked my glass of wine over and it was the last glass from the bottle!!!) But on the whole it went well. DS1 is absolutely knackered now and was worried that the others didn't enjoy it - cos two of them argued a bit. My DS1 is very sensitive and i've told him that once he has slept and looks back on it he will realise that they all had fun. I bought way too much KFC and had to throw some away (don't tell my mother!!)

I've had awful cramps for two days now. Hoping it's something trying to implant but realistically is probably endo reminding me that I need to stop having periods. God, it bloody hurts though.

I don't think some of you have a 1% chance - that seems awfully low. Especially for the likes of Gum and BB who have had a lot of successful pregnancies. We were toldwe had a 5% chance of getting pregnant and found out we were pregnant 2 weeks later - now obviously that egg wasn't a good one but that was not what he was predicting he was predicting out chances of actually getting pregnant and he could not possibly have known if it would be a good egg or a bad one. IYSWIM

I like Italians words - do what you do ladies

I won't let that statistic bother me.
I gave in to temptation and tested this morning. After another early wake up at 4.30 am. Why does this happen in early pregnancy?You'd think you'd need more sleep?

...Oh yea, forgot to whisper I got bfp.

It's super faint, but I know one when I see one. I'm quietly pleased, but terrified of telling DH, and will actually wait a bit. Need to think about that one.

Congratulations Gum. All the best.

great news Gum - have all crossed for you. x

Morning cd1 , but hopeful your news made me smile and gives me hope, I am excited for you, just enjoy. Not sure what cd you on but will dh be expecting af ?

Probably tmi but when swoi over the weekend dp said my nipples were leaking, any ideas ??

Also I was thinking,( like you do in the middle of the night ) I think I have more sex now than I did in my twenties, and that there are a lot of men on this thread getting a lot of sex from their fabolous over forty women

Hi there. Gum congratulations! Hope it all goes well for you - and The Talk with dh too!

If waking up at 4am is a sign, then I'm pg too - unfortunately i think it is more due to the stress of the move for me. But here's hoping!

(actually am going through much of the same thought process as Hippy and am thinking about moving on. I'm going to see how I feel this month when af arrives, but if I'm not too disappointed, I'll take that as a sign I think. I feel ok about it am).

panashe about af. Re: leaking. I had this a couple of months ago, but it appeared to be nothing. I had a test for excess prolactin (possibly it was that but memory like a sieve now), but it was all fine. have you breast fed recently?

Hello to everyone else!

Who haven't we heard from for a while? curly? lolfactor ? how are you both? hairy hope everything is ok with you.

Who is close to testing now? I'm not yet!

oops Lol saw you posted over the weekend - that'll teach me to post first and read later!

woop for gum FANTASTIC news, hope that line gets darker, almost as glad as if i had it!!! Hope your hubby is happy, I'm sure he will be I have everything crossed for you xx