Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 3

[Curlylox]

As you were ladies

oh Jolls you sound so pragmatic but it must be gutting. Good news in that something 'happened' but you clearly want a sticky bean - and you deserve one. I remember our DHEA discussion from before. Go for it!

Thanks to Hippy Diege and others for offering to have a quiet fight word with dp. He's all over the shop at the moment. This morning he woke up at 5.45, wanted to make mad, passionate love, then stared into my face and said, 'I don't want to keep trying for a baby. We can't move on from this while we keep trying'. It's pure broodiness, not lack of commitment I think, that seems to be making him behave so bizarrely. It was a real relief to hear him say it, even though I'm still making plans. I'm getting the tests for my own natural DHEA before starting a course, and I should start it sooner rather than later.

On another note - my ds may be ghastly to me, and may be about to fail his A Levels, but his Sixth Form Head has just sent an email in response to my wailing/gnashing of teeth, telling me that he is such a lovely boy, so agreeable and charming, that he must have had a great upbringing and is bound to be successful at work! I'm still rubbing the bruises from when I fell off my chair. Is he worried I might be thinking of suing the school?

Great to hear all the good news you're having - ok, as well as the shite. Houses, babies, holidays, weight loss. It's all happening. Keep it coming, people, I need to hear it. Is there place for a nosy one in the helicopter? I can bring a box of Kleenex in case of blubbing and a sick bag for Diege?

Jolls so sorry. No words really, just a hug

lol I am so pleased things are going well with DH and your son. How lovely that others see the great stuff, you know it is in there and others see it too. Fab. Hope that it all works out with trying with DP.

I had a car accident today.

It was totally my fault.

Thankfully, and amazingly, no one was hurt. I was a bit shaken up and our car is very much the worse for wear and might even be a write off! But praise God because I really was not injured! It has made me really, REALLY think about road safety, driving slowly, paying attention etc and also making sure I am not too tired when I drive. I don't think that was the case today but it so easily could have been on another occasion.

So, I am just glad to be alive and not to have caused anyone else injury.

I really feel it must serve as a warning to me about road safety.

Drive safely ladies!

Italian - so glad you weren't hurt! How scary for you. Sometimes an accident is a real wake-up call.But all the same - awful for you.

Oh Jolls, I'm so sorry about the CP. What a bloody roller-coaster. You sound very philosophical - and I hope this next cycle brings you a sticky babe. I'm interested to hear about the DHEA. How long do you need to take it before you see results? Is it straight away, or will it be the eggs in 4 months time that are more youthful? Any idea what the side effects are? And do you have to have blood tests to measure your own levels before you start?

Gum is obviously thinking about trying it herself - also considering clomid.Must do some goggling today to find out more.

I'm 5 DPO and none of the annoying symptoms like last month.

Lol, glad to hear things are more positive for you.

I hope everyone is doing okay.

P.S. I won a competition which gives me 10% off (for a year) on any orders I make on a web-site that sells fertility stuff - cheap tests,fertility jewellery etc.It's nice to win, but I'm hoping I won't need any of those things. All I really want is a BFP and sticky babe.

Jolls sorry about cp, its just soo crappy, but you do sound quite strong.

I googled DHEA had never heard of it, sounds interesting though.

Italian glad you ok, things like that do shake you up and you think What If. I have been terribly distracted with all thats gone on here, and sometimes I know when I'm driving my mind isn't focusing atall.

I feel really crap today, sorry. Just think ttc seems to exacerbate my pmt...Yesterday was just a bad day, spent most of it in tears, had bad row with dp, just couldn't crying and crying. Looked like I had a black eye by end of day, my eyes so swollen. Shouted at ds this morning....but he did leave the bathroom looking like it had been hit by a tidal wave

Think having my exdh around hasn't helped. I need to pull myself together though as dd got first 8 of her gcse's next week.

Sorry to hear about the accident italian thank goodness you weren't hurt.

Well done on the competition win gum fertility jewelley??????

Overheard in the bakers this morning:-

One workman buying his mug of strong tea and a sausage sandwich. Another workman slaps him on the back and says "what's it like being a new dad then, mate?"

First one replies, "Shit hot, mate! It really is the fucking bollocks!"

Ahh bless him, and they say there are no more poets in the world

hey ladies, been a bit quiet but was in sunny turkey last week! italian hope you've recovered from your accident? I had a little 'bump' in my hubbys ex company car before the holiday - typical I had no probs before but just as it was due to go back I reversed into a wall lol

jolls sorry about the CP, I've vaguely heard about DHEA but didn't realise clinics were recommending it in this country? Will they monitor you on it and where do you buy it from? I read that you need to have your hormone levels monitored whilst you take it?

on the TTC front I'm still no nearer a BFP did lots of swi-ing and swoi-ing on holiday but once again af came on time :-( I'm getting so downhearted - just hope I get some positive news when I have my first appointment at the fertility clinic in june

waves to everyone else and hoping you're all well ;-)

welcome back tina - sorry no BFP for you but not long until your appointment.

thanks all for your kind thoughts

Italian, so glad you're ok. What a shock. :(

ref the DHEA, the clinic I saw said no need to monitor me whilst taking it - I have heard you can get very oily/spotty taking it, and no doubt other side effects, but the clinic had seen good success with patients using it (of course impossible to say if that the defining factor). hen I mentioned it at my NHS appt, the consultant was neither pro/anti, he said there had been no proof yet either way.

hippy love the bakery story - that's dead sweet

xx

Jolls ((())) however both times i ve had CPs i ve concieved VERY shortly after....MMM...... XX
Gum "fertilty" jewellery ...the mind boggles!!!
Tina glad you had a good holiday ..Where abouts did you go in Turkey?
Hippy i m fine ta.Random chucking up before work yesterday am....lots of crap at work and dodgy patients!!!!! All are welcome in the copter and hopefully we all fit in for a bit longer!!!!
Italian glad you re ok.It's horrible isn t it and "pulls" you up in life on how lucky / well off we/you really are.
panashe sorry you re down
BB well done on the swi
Shandy great you ve got a scan soon...welcome to the world of proper mentalling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi lol bless your son.
Hi Curly
Diege u ok?
Hope everyone's well.As you say very sad about Kelly Brook really shows no one's safe are they??? Very scarey.
All fine here countdown to a week tomorrow 16 week scan mmmm...................Is GBOS a pink or blue???????????????????As i said lots of politics and crap going off at work and thats just the staff!!!!!!!!!!!
Love to all XXXX

ooohh how exciting. Will we know if GBOS is a boy or girl soon then or will it just be you and Ant who knows and the rest of us will just be left wondering.(and trying to get the info out of you!!) Would you prefer another girl or try a blue one this time?? I know you just want a healthy one but just wondered if you have a preference.

I've definitely ov'd and have finished all SWI for this month. [phew] Boobs are already feeling fuller - they are little buggers - arn't they?

Collected my 15 tablets (3 months worth) of 50mg clomid today so am all set and ready for when/if AF hits town.

jolls you are so strong, my love. Really hope this has just made everything jump to attention and that the next egg is a super-duper one. You so deserve it. lou is right of course she did have a CP just before this pregnancy and so did our old mate alba.

alba are you coming back to try for another then????????

Panashe you have right on your side. Anyone who leaves the towels at high tide and a trail of shaving foam up the beach shouldn't get off lightly .

I think the months when it's all perfect - SWIs, pills, stress-free home - and still nothing happens, well they're the worst. It's like, 'what more can I do?' So frustrating. No wonder your hurling soap.

Italian really glad you're ok. Shaken, but not stirred.

Gum DHEA tablets mimick hormones which decrease as we get older - DHEA and testosterone, I think. So, you've got to watch out that you don't turn into a bloke. I'm having my blood tested for DHEA and free testosterone levels on Wednesday at my local drs; she's sending a sample off to the path lab. I visited the Zita West clinic in London last year and the doctor said that I might want to consider DHEA. There have been trials in the US, www.centerforhumanreprod.com/dhea.html, They say it helps to reverse the ageing ovarian reserve issue. The doctor said that one woman she was treating (IVF patient) was taking it and her eggs had become more plentiful and of better quality, but that some people found it made no difference. So, we'll see.

Better get cooking.

Hippy yes i also had a CP the month before i concieved Georgie.Yes i ll tell you all when i know!!!! Don t really know what we want as we ve got a full wardrobe of lovely pink clothes i 'd love GBOS to wear but OTOH if not i ll save them for when ever my sister has a baby.Soimetimes think it would be easier to have a boy but then i analyse it for hours and come to the conclusion that GBOS's gender is already decided and what will be will be.

Oh Clomid how exciting......................YEH fx XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

I am going to post in stages as temporary house has v annoying internet connection that keeps timing out and ditching my posts sooo...

Jolls that sucks (just wait til your ds starts bringing his american soap vocabulary home you too will sound as mutton as me ) I know the pragmatism with which all of us face a bfp but a cp has to be really cruel many hugs too you today

Hippy fantastic SWI effort you are a inspiration ....I wonder if the builders partner thought it was "shit hot " at that stage ? probably not personally to be honest (Lou cover your ears !) at that stage I thought it sucked ...no sleep for a week no time to wash no social life takes a while to realise how fabulous the little critters are ...

Hippy I really must stop lurking here, it's making me long to start the whole process again, when I have (once again) agreed with DH that this beautiful little baby is our lot. I am sticking to it this time, but there's a great finality in saying that's it, no more... I'm still working on making my peace with it. Here's to your clomid doing the trick for you.

Lou and Diege, can't help but lurk because I have to live vicariously through other people's pregnancies now... glad all still going well, I shall be checking in for scan news!

Jolls it's utter arsicles, as you'd say, for you this month. Hippy has an excellent memory, I did indeed have a CP the month before bfp for DS2. I'm crossing everything crossable that the same will now happen for you.

Italian I hope you're not too shaken up from your little driving incident...

Gum big wave

back to lurker status for a while now.......

panashe bathroom discipline is very important ......an essential development milestone for boys ....this morning cd26 very angry and tearful and cramps if i think about them .....never used to get them before AF but since the mc they are there sometimes all the way from cd 14 can't help but think it is why it's not working ....anyway cramps when i think really hard about it but not otherwise no symptoms ....apart from an enormous pair of knockers!!!

Italian a crash is a shocker and I too have had a couple ...you will get at least 12 months extra careful driving out of it ...it happens to most mums who are doing a million mini journeys with their dc and are being harassed at the same time ! glad you are in one piece and let the insurance take care of the rest ...

lou glad you have raised the issue of gender I started this whole thing wanting a girl (even the dog is a boy!)...I was very clever reading the book and trying to get the timing right and conceiving immediately ....blah blah .....on reflection any baby is an amazing privilege at any age ....also boys are fantastic !!! loving, lovely and and just great ....anyway who says after GBOS you wont go for number three !

Right ...this has taken forever must go to bed "night night" and waves to all .....Deige you still in good shape ? if I was honest I would admit too being a bit sickey every now and again the last few days but thats not normally a good sign for me so am trying to ignore it and carry on regardless.

Gum fertility jewellery, what is fertility jewellery !

panache sorry it has been a hard time, hope it will be better.

What a fab conversation to overhear in the bakers Hippy*.

Anyone watching The Apprentice, The Apprentice you?re fired?? Spoiler alert ? The Gloves!! Oh no! Did you think the right person went? I defo think they did today!

Lou think you are right GBOS?s gender is already decided so you can just relax (if you possibly can), pink or blue, whatever! Did you know up until about 70 years ago it was pink for a boy and blue for a girl???

here

Lou All the very, very best!

Tina Hi, welcome back.

Hippy all the very best for the Clomid (not sure if I spelled that right).

Shandy, Isaboo, Alba and Lol hugs to you all and anyone I have missed.

I am fine, happy, healthy and very relieved, I said sorry about 100 times to the guy and my hubby and today finally said sorry to God for driving without paying attention (I went through a red light). In my tinie tiny defence apparently there are other accidents at this intersection!

I am so SOOOOOOO excited about treatment, can't wait to start. Think now it will be August/September. SO if successful the baby would come almost 10 years to the day since we started this very long process! (well, not to the day but to the month almost!).

Hi ladies. Was just on Fertility Friend and Curly has me as a friend there, so I can check her chart, but I tried and it didn't work. Are you still here Curly? Have you decided not to temp? Or would you rather I didn't sticky-beak?

Only 6 DPO today, and feeling hopeful (as my nickname says!). Boobs are having funny little tingling sensations on and off rather than just tender all the time. This is a good sign for me, but then again, it might just be a progesterone thing. Felt a bit sick when I was hungry yesterday, but also might be nothing, so will try to remain open-minded about it all.

As for fertility jewellery - it's really a "symbolic" thing I think - the idea is that certain stones have different qualities. I don't know that wearing the stones actually helps, but some of it is wearable. I ordered the coral and amethyst because I like the colours. It will go nicely with my red and purple hats. Remember the conversation we had about that a while ago? I already have a pack of 25 epts and 25 opks, so won't need tests for a while. Have a look herewww.oraclefertility.com.au/index.php?cPath=25

Naughty Charlie is drawing on all stationery(as in not moving) items, so I must dash. Then out to the garden to plant peas.

Hi Gum I remember my mum buying my sister a crystal, it was supposed to aid fertility. Unfortunately it didn't work, but they did go on to adopt. My mum is a reiki healer, I had some treatment after mc and it helped.

Hope you stiil got tingly boobs and you too Isaboo

Cd 24 for me xx

hello all!

(sorry a me post coming up but am confused). So had peaks on my cbfm on Monday and Tuesday. A low temp on Tuesday, a relatively high temp on Weds and a really really low one today! So I am thinking that I am heading for an anovulatory cycle (grr), but just wondered whether it is possible I could ov today, 2 days after my peak, and whether I should gird my loins and dtd again! Very annoying. (also wonder if those temping people know about the possibility of a big drop in temp on 2dpo - I think that I remember TCOYF mentioning this somewhere, but may just be clutching at straws).

lou can't believe you are coming up to 16 weeks! How quickly other people's pregancies seem to go!

jolls sorry about the CP. I had a few last year, but not a peak this year so far. But I think your fertility is meant to be higher straight afterwards - so fingers crossed.

Italian how awful about the accident. I had a couple of accidents (my fault - I'm a very bad driver!) a few years ago, and haven't dared drive since. I must get back in the saddle though.

Hello to everyone else. sorry not to name check.