Coffee lounge and bar for MI5 interviewees, little friends and other CM studiers post MC – Part II

[wombatinwaiting]

Here is part II of our intrepid journey through the minefield that is TTC post MC. You can find part I on this thread.

Fab to hear from you wellie and glad that you're settling into SWI and hope you're enjoying it too! Sending lots of pg vibes your way.

And super to hear from you yellow and can completely understand not being able to post properly. Your acu sounds divine - I had some for lower back issues about 8 years ago and swore by it - am going to try pilates soon - I think I've found a good recommendation. Fingers tightly crossed that the bare minimum has worked this month - keep us posted. Hope you don't have to do any work tomorrow and enjoy the rest of your weekend.

V glad to hear the wedding was so good worm and sorry for the sickness but yay at the same time!

Much more successful shopping trip today - a pair of black jeggings in a size bigger I think will do the trick nicely and another 3 tops to go with them. (oh and some costume jewellery as at least that will still fit in a few months )

Hello all, I'm a lurker! Had an erpc last week so have been looking for interesting insight in the MN forums. I started on your first thread and am now here. I must confess that I haven't read it all (sorry) but wanted to say how very pleased I was to hear that some of you have had such good news! So many things that I've read have been negative so it's great to hear something positive, it brought a tear to my eye!
My DH and I started trying again last night (no bleeding for 3 days so we gave it a go and it was fine). I feel so much better for being back on the wagon, as it were, but am also worried that it's going to take forever if it happens at all.

Did anyone conceive straight after their ERPC? We've been told it's ok to try.

Congratulations to those of you who've had good news and good luck to the rest of you :)

Hello and welcome marathonmama - so sorry to hear about your mc and erpc. To give you a brief run-down on us, some of us are pg, some of us are still trying. Great to hear that you are back on the wagon (great expression! ) and yes, we have had some who conceived straight after ERPC - manamana from memory (v sorry if I have got that wrong....) and just recently the super-fertile harassed got her bfp immediately following a natural m/c. It absolutely is ok physically to try straight after erpc, the issue is really an emotional / mental one - it's so much harder to date your bean without having had one cycle and it can cause all sorts of worry as you don't know how far along you could / should be. Also because the recent m/c is still so fresh and raw, the fears and anxiety that go along with a new pg is heightened. Harassed may be the best person to advise on this.

Having said all this, we wanted to start again straight away and I think a lot of people on this thread felt the same. So, very best of luck to you and enjoy the trying!

Hi Wombat, thanks for the luck, I'm sucking it up as we speak. It's so nice to hear some happy stories for a change!

Some questions for you ladies as you're the experts. How long after your erpc did it take for your AF to arrive? Did you ovulate in the first cycle? Also, do you know if it's true that you're are more fertile after a mc?

We were going to wait until after my AF before trying but I spoke to a doc at the EPU and he said to go for it if I feel emotionally ready. I feel like doing something proactive is the best medicine so we're going for it

I'm so full of questions, my DH is despairing but I like to be well-informed.

Also, if you don't mind me asking a question you should never ask, how old are you ladies? I'm 35 and feeling like my ovaries are shriveling up as we speak...

I'm 33 which people keep telling me is really young but since I first had my DD at 29 I do worry that it may not be as easy this time round...

I have really sore boobs, but I think its because i keep prodding them to see if I have any symptoms!

I am one of those that cannot buy lottery tickets as I think I will win and get really dissapointed when I don't, this 2ww feels like that (hopefully with better odds!)

Wombat great news on the meeting with your boss - must be a relief

Sorry for the questions but what is 2ww?

Oooh, got it, 2 week wait! Good luck!

Hi marathonmama and welcome to the madhouse!
To answer some of your questions - I "officially" waited for first AF after ERPC, although we did have a couple of sneaky shots at DTD, but don't tell anyone.... :)
I'm now on cycle 4 and TTC - my ERPC was in mid December but my WTF (first cycle after MC before first AF) was almost 7 weeks, which is within the range but is quite long - so my "proper cycle 1" wasn't until the end of Jan. Oh, and I'm 31.

And yes, 2ww is the 2 week wait, which I shall be on very shortly unfortunately (or fortunately depending how you look at it.......)

Waves!

Hi marathonmama I think it took 6 weeks for me to have af after erpc and then a couple more months to settle back to normal. I'd say the 'more fertile after mc' is a myth, it can happen but it feels like more pressure. I had my erpc in nov and I am 38. But not pg again, I'm working on it!

I find acupuncture useful to help me feel calm and that I'm doing something. Do you have any kids already? How long were you trying for the first time and how far along were you when you mc'd?

In terms of trying again I agree that it's more about being ready mentally rather than physically. Hope that helps!

Hi again marathonmama - there are quite a few of us oldies on this thread. I am 38 next month and have been surprised at falling pg three times in the last year (plus DH is 51!) - first was a natural m/c around 6 weeks and second was ERPC at around 10 weeks and AF arrived about 5 weeks after that (from memory). I have no idea if I ovulated that cycle although we DTD in a slightly half-hearted fashion. I have also read that you're allegedly more fertile post m/c but I really don't know what the hard facts are to support this..... Have you been advised to POAS in a week or so to see if it still registers as PG? I believe that while there is still HCG lurking, it's not possible to get pg and a BFN will also reassure you that there is no remaining tissue. Hope this helps!

Oh and agree with yellow about feeling as if you are doing something proactive towards it e.g. accupuncture / kinesiology (see harassed for more info on that), dietary changes etc. (although we all need comfort chocolate post ERPC!)

As it is quite recent for you, it may help you to know that for me, it was sometimes a question mentally of 2 steps forward, 1 step back and I would find that odd things would set me off feeling blue. It seems to be a case of up and down for everyone and it's really that old adage that time is a great healer.

ooh, and I would be interested to know the answers to yellow's questions too!

Wonders where sparkly is and hoping all is ok x

Good luck with the 2WW wellie and keep us posted on the boob poking emma!

Hello all! Thanks for the answers.

To answer your questions yellow and nosey ;) wombat. I had a mmc at 13 weeks but the baby had died around 7 weeks. I had a sneaky suspicion all was not well as I had bugger all pregnancy symptoms, no bleeding or pain though. Everyone kept telling me I was being paranoid but I think deep down I knew. Had an erpc a few days after the scan.

I do have a dd who is nearly 2. I felt awful afterwards, liked I'd wished the baby away. I really struggled when dd was a newborn and was panicking abut how I was going to cope with two dcs. I feel like I got my comeuppance and would be so thankful and happy if we were lucky enough to have another.

We were only ttc for 3 months beforehand so were lucky really. I thought it would take longer.

The hormones are wrecking havoc at the moment and one minute I feel absolutely fine and the next a bit down. Not as down as I thought I would though. Doesn't help that all but one of my NCT group are up the duff again. My skin feels like someone has been using it to test Brillo pads and I look more pg than I did when I was (if that makes sense?), I'm so bloated. I also had lower back pain in one spot so wondered if I could be ov'ing, hence the question. Seems a bit soon but it feels like it does when I am.

Glad to have come across you ladies, nice to hear some good stories! Right, I'm off for a Sunday morning

Just to add that the up and down described by wombat was how it was for me too. And I think that any way you feel is 'normal' and it can be unpredictable.

And it seems like a good sign that you got pg si quickly and already have one dc. Please don't blame yourself for the mc, it was just one of those things.

Morning Ladies
Welcome marathon I wasn't a ERPC but a natural, I gatecrashed the thread as they were all such lovely ladies.
I'm 36 with 2 DCs aged 11 and 9 so it will be like starting again for Me should this PG work out for the best! If I were you I would stary trying again once I had a negative test, then there could be no confusion about a future positive! If you feel you have already ovulated then you will have missed the boat this month........Don't worry about all the questions as My old boss used to say the only stupid question is the one you don't ask!

Where is sparkly We havn't seen her since her date with MR Doherty! hope everything is ok if you are lurking give us a wave you know how wh wittle!

Nothing to report here except My god the time is dragging. It has dawned on me that my DD for the MC is approaching in about 3 weeks, which totally clashes with the 9 week point where it all went wrong last time! So get ready for lots of irrational and freaked out posts!!

Happy Sunday to you all

Hi Yellow we crossed posts by 8 seconds!

Hello worm

Don't worry, we'll be here for you. If I get pg again I will out mental you all!

My dd for most recent mc is 15 June but I'll be on me hols in France so will drink plenty of wine!

Do you mean "you know how we worry" rather than "wh wittle" worm?! The days WILL pass but I sympathise with time dragging. We shall be here for all the irrational posts from you with lots of and .

That must have been tough finding out at 13 weeks marathon. In terms of ov'ing - you'll know your body the best so you could well be. Not a bad idea to wait until first AF just so you know you're "back on track" so to speak. Do what feels right for you though. And yellow is right - it is just one of those things, please don't think it's anything you did / thought / felt.

Just had to have a power snooze in the loos here at work

Hols again yellow?! You lucky thing! Mind you, you have been working v hard.... with any luck you won't be in a position to be drinking wine or eating soft cheese

Thanks ladies
Yes it was supposed to say we wittle........is wittle not a well known word then? i suppose it is one I got off My grandma. It does indeed mean worry in an over the top fashion......

Yes wombat it was a bit of a shocker, especially as we'd had an early scan and seen a heartbeat. Mind you, at that scan they said my dates were out by 1.5 weeks (i.e. the embryo was smaller than expected) but I knew the dates couldn't be out as DH had been away with work.

I sympathise with the time dragging, I'm desperate for my AF so that we can get going again but it's only been just over a week since my erpc, it feels like soooo much longer.

So apart from worm do the rest of you have any DCs already?

worm I've never heard of wittle but I like it. And I also need to know where sparkly is. That Pete Docherty is back in jail, I guess she wouldn't have seen him in concert after all.

wombat you cheeky one, I haven't had a holiday for ages, you'd better check your spreadsheet. I went to the in-laws for a couple of days at Xmas which isn't really a holiday and went to NY for 2 days in Sept. So the last proper holiday was in France in June last year!

MarathonMama I haven't got any kids, it's a bit of a mixture on here. I've had 2 mc and with my last one I had a scan at nearly 7 weeks with a heartbeat but it'd all gone wrong by 9 weeks. This mmc business is so awful cos you can go along thinking everything is ok and it's a massive shock. If I get pg again I'm not sure if i would have the same early scans because it was soooo stressful but at the same time it felt like each day lasted a year and i'd have had a scan every day if I could have!

I think maybe because in life we get so used to being able to control things and this is one thing that is totally out of our control, we can't do anything to change the outcome.

When is pecka back, I miss her smut!

How you doing harassed?

yellow I'm sure you'll be a mum soon. I read on the royal college of obstetricians and gynaecologists website that 60% of people who have a mmc are pg within a year and 80% within two, and that includes people who have fertility problems. It made me feel loads better. I'd be the same about scans, we live (literally) next door to a private scan clinic so the temptation is there everyday. In fact, I wonder if they do a loyalty card...

Can I ask another question that may be tmi, I stopped bleeding after my erpc last thurs and haven't had any bleeding since. However, after DTD I had some spotting. Is this norma from your experiences?

Yoohoo chickadees, I'm back! Not had time for a catch-up due to the in-laws arriving, they are quite loud and full-on. Anyhow, managed to see Pete before he got banged up again, he was not bad but I was so tired I had to leave before the end! Definitely felt like an old codger. Then saw Low the following night, who were great, but two late nights (midnight!) really took their toll. I really need my sleep at the moment. Had lots of family round for a BBQ in the rain yesterday, it was lovely but I had to have a lie-down when they left, and didn't really get up again
All the rellies know about the baby now which is nice, although they are already projecting personalities (mainly sulky and thuggish, grrr) and all seem to think it's a boy. They've a 50/50 chance of being correct but they'll put it down to some sort of instinct. If I don't know I don't see how they do!
Anyway, back at work so must press on but the in-laws have departed until Thurs so will be able to catch up more.
Welcome MarathonMama, I dreamt last night there was a newbie on the thread and now here you are! I too am an oldie at 37, it took me 5 months after my erpc to fall pregnant, and am currently 10+5. Bit nervous about my scan next Tuesday but feel pretty positive.

Ooh, got to go, one of my team has just resigned. Happy days!
Waves to all xxx

Ladies I'm back!!!! We had a fab holiday to celebrate our first wedding anniversary!!! Greece was beautiful,and very romantic andf have returned, relaxed and loved up!! No smut in sight!!!
Af arrived whilst we were there so were back to it!!! Were now offically 9 months into this whole ttc lark!!!
Hope everyone is good? Had a quick catch up, harrassed congrtas on a positive scan, not sure if I've missed anymore news?? Spread sheet anyone???

Waves to all, hope you missed me!!!