Freak out room for those newly updiffed after MC to hold hands and support each other...

[YourFriendBrian]

Hello!

Newly updiffed and freaking out about spotting, cramping, the wait until your first scan and each little twinge? Settle in for lots of hand holding and supprt until you're ready to move to grads.

Lots of love
Brian x

At my 12 week scan(s) (NHS and private) they got better pictures with an empty bladder.

I can tell you that having a sonographer press REALLY hard on a full bladder will result in emergency emptying anyway

Velvet come back 'ere with that there Haribo! Your MW does not sound particularly helpful. I don't know if pink goo counts as bleeding - has it been better today than it was yesterday? I guess the logical thing to do is if it tails off, wait until a bit later for a private scan (if you can hang on til 8 weeks that would be better than 6 weeks) and if the goo continues to be pink, maybe consider contacting GP as you've been told to?

I send you big hugs and a chelsea bun.

Velvet - sorry you're wibbling. I am a bit at your MW, to be honest. What does she think is making the goo pink if not blood? She may well be right, and it may be nothing significant... but nobody knows that for sure until there has been a scan to rule out the potentially serious causes such as ectopic. (I'm not at all saying that's likely to be the issue, especially as you have no pain, but it's one of the things any doctor should consider with a bleed in early pregnancy.) EPAUs are outside the remit of midwifery (they fall under gynaecology, at least round here) - so of course the MW is not going to order you an early scan. But it doesn't mean you don't deserve one. If you have a bleed - any bleed, including pink goo - go and see your GP, and hopefully you will get an EPAU referral. Just explain what your concerns are (key words being - early pregnancy, bleeding, previous miscarriage, anxious), and I would have thought most reasonable GPs would refer you without quibble.

Tunnocks OMFG!! That's awesome news

Pink good news on scan too, may the jinx faries clear off and stay away

Just come out of a lovely scan, we got so much time looking and she said it was it in a lovely position so switched to 4D for a peek, and heard heartbeat too. Happy day

Velvet sorry I hadn't refreshed from earlier and didn't see your post. What a horrible MW, I've had some right ones when I've rung up. Couldn't it be pink from implantation? Emoo's right any bleed deserves a scan, hopefully your GP will refer you ((()))

Velvet* my mw said pretty much the same thing. I would contact your EPU. Likely to be implantation, but i would give them a call anyway. You fit the right criteria for EPU anyway.....

Mummy and pink i think the 12 week nuchal requires less than full bladder because they need a very clear pic of the neck and nasal bone, whereas a dating scan is different. (I think!)

velvet MW sounds like she just doesn't get it . I second what the others say-I would call the EPU, explain your history and why you are so stressed now. You ARE stressed so don't try and be brave on the phone cos it doesn't help your cause, hopefully they can give you more helpful advice/reassurance if appropriate. Then if you need GP referral, go to GP asap and lay it on thick-if there's a newly qualified GP you can see, all the better cis they are more human and less blaze about stuff. I would defo push EPU on phone to talk you through how likely it is to be a sign of something sinister, because hopefully that will flush out one way or the other whether they can genuinely reassure you or whether you need a scan.

orange fabulous news about scan!

dachs you will be so shocked (in a good way!!) next time you see the pups!! You are v brave holding out to wait for another scan-My scan addiction is wildly out of control!!

Hey

Back from councelling. She's very excited about my scan and heartbeat info from last week. Seems like ages ago to me but only 10 days really. We talked a lot about making sure I relax and don't worry.... It's all fine in theory but in practice impossible IMO!

Velvet pink goo sounds ok... I'd worry if it was any red-er...

Tunnocks still really excited for you... Feel like adding yourself to the list yet?

orange your scan sounds wonderful - happy, happy, happy...

Oh and thanks for scan advice. I don't know why I'm being about it-now's hardly the time to become shy if they switch to dildo cam having happily had my legs up in stirrups for a dildo cam week after week recently!!

knitter fab on the counselling!! When are you due another session?

Pink you're right doesn't matter how you see as long as everything's ok

amazing news teacake! v v pleased for you. I'm another who was charting yet crl measuring a few days out. But heartbeat spotted so that is good.

orange how lovely!

pink yay for you too!

velvet you poor thing, definitely get your gp to refer you to your local epu. The one near me takes self referral but I don't know if that's because I have a long history there. The nurses and doctors there will be well aware of the tlc/early reassurance scans research that contribute to a higher rate of successful pregnancies. If not, quote the mc assoc info at them.

Have actually had far too busy a day hoiking ds around restaurants and supermarkets. Feeling a bit knackered now.

Rather embarassingly, I have a bump. Which is straining to give the game away despite wearing a very loose knitted dress today. It is mainly food but I can normally hold it in. Ab muscles seem to be completely non-existent.

orange glad your bean was behaving and you had a good scan :)

I've had no goo of any colour today so I don't know whats going on. Glad you all agree mw wasn't very helpful. I think I'm going to book a private scan for the 16th, at least it will give me something to focus on. I keep telling myself I've done 2 weeks now so I can do another 2.

I have a new symptom too - constipation and diarrhoea! It doesn't want to come out but when it does it won't stop! Am taking this as a good sign.

digi, i think thats part of my problem.... poor tummy muscles!! Aah bless x

Evening al!! Yey to Pink, Orange and especially Tunnocks on the fab scans today!!!

Hugs for Velvet I'd definately get to an EPU if you can> It doesn't sound like a big issue but the reassurance value of a scan is huge.

I'm still getting brown - I looked back at my diary and it's been happening for a month today During the day I manage to stay relatively calm about it but I'm finding I'm waking up at night worry that I've got an incompetent cervix or something. I'm 13 weeks tomorrow so if it is coming from the placenta taking over, hopefully it will stop soon. If not, I might push for more checks because the consultant's: "oh we wouldn't check your cervical competence unless you'd had several 2nd trimester losses" didn't entirely fill me with confidence - I'd much rather try not to lose this one than wait until I do and then close the proverbial stable door after the horse has bolted thank you very much!!!

Hope evryone has lovely weekends planned? My DH is pushing me to tell my family this weekend and I'm not sure why I'm so reluctant to do so!

I have never had abs. I have flabs instead. Congrats on the bump emergence, Digi

velvet glad the goo has subsided. Random bowel happenings is a splendid symptom and I remember it, er, fondly. I was particularly flummoxed by the diarrhoea as all the book say constipation. The books lie, evil books.

Today seems to have been a good day all round and tis lovely to have all our scan peeps back in one piece.

Tooty-frooties and ribena all round!

orange hooray for your bean and a lovely scan

velvet honestly some mw's have no understanding or empathy! Just seen you'll be 8 weeks in 2 weeks time so that would be a good time for scan to give you reassurance

knitter glad the counselling went well

wakari & cep are you two lurking? is everything going well for you both?

digi snap! I am just trying v hard to keep it disguised for another 3 weeks!

OMG wombat that's f'ing disgraceful!! How you didn't punch him or burst into tears I don't know!! (((hugs)))

Wombat

I think it was digi (?) that suggested incompetent cervix to me when i went to a&e.. and when i brought it up with the MW she was totally dismissive. Wont check it etc... even though my cervix got completely hammered during my DS birth [problematic delivery] and i could smell sperm in the discharge, even though we hadnt had sex, which is the smell of fluid.

The placenta is likely to already be working my lovely, i think it starts to kick in from 8 weeks. When i was scanned at 14 weeks i asked about it, and the sonographer didnt think she would be able to see it...but then just said " oh its fully functioning!"
Perhaps the brown is the placenta taking over ? I know several people who have bled around that time.