No Science. Just Shagging. Them's the rules! Thread for the Viroids.

[NervousNelly]

The (updated)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality

So we really need a super fertile thread this time Viroids! Come on, Shag Capes at the ready :)

penguin that's what pant snot is there for!

Morning everybody. I hope you all had lovely weekends.

I had a really nice birthday thanks, and Mother's Day was good too, except that DP was out at work all day. I always feel odd on Mother's Day, as I still think about getting cards and stuff - I just think about my own mum! Maybe once DS is 30 I'll be used to it! I'm still feeling a bit odd, and have sore boobs too, but ERTD isn't due until the weekend, so I'll try not to do any more ridiculous POASing!!

Hope things go well on your new yard Josie.

Good morning all :) Yesterday was my first mothers day. It was lovely, we went for a meal with my mum and DP's mum and various other family members. "DD" got me a teapot and some new slippers and she has great taste for an 11mo.

Got the doctors appointment for my blood test results in an hour. Wish me luck

Bam, I went one step further than ridiculous POASing the other day I dug out our old fetal heart monitor.... There is a heart beat in there! But I'm guessing it was probably mine

LOL babylann! That sounds lovely for Mother's Day. I got a handmade card, and a wee bear saying "mum".

DS is on his Easter holidays now, so it's a bit fraught here. Nice to have him at home though!

Hallo ladies!

Good to see that the mothers had a lovely day yesterday :) I got breakfast in bed (coffee and brioche) and got given a Fairy jigsaw puzzle and Angela Carter's Book Of Fairy Tales (not at all light, fluffy or soppy )

I have the week off work, and should be OVin any day now ... but to get pregnant I'd need to be having some sex, and it's just not happening either he's too tired, we've had our girls here, or there's 'just no time'. I got really upset Saturday morning as my girls were turning up later than usual, and OH's daughter went out early to see her friends, so while lying in bed, I asked OH 'shall we make the most of this time alone then?' and he got all jittery and said 'oh I don't know...' so I told him not to say I never instigate anything (I have some rejection issues, and we've been over this again and again), and then the door buzzed and his daughter had come straight back, I swear he breathed a sigh of relief!

I just lost it and told him he wasn't helping my self esteem, that it seems like he's always making some excuse ... if we plan an early night, he ends up drinking too much tea and coffee during the day (I've tried to switch to decaff and it lasts 2 days before he complains it doesn't taste the same) and not wanting to go to bed until 1am, by which time I'm shattered, and he's 'not ready' before that. Then in the morning, when we can have time to be intimate, he's too tired because he stayed up too late. It's the only thing we argue about.

So, we talked Saturday and he promised we'd be intimate that night ... lo and behold, bedtime comes (reasonable early for him) and he says sorry, he's too tired!! Yesterday morning the girls were making me breakfast in bed, and last night he wanted to stay up later again to have 'some space', so this morning he was too tired again. I'm beginning to give up trying.

Sorry, didn't intend to rant

Oh crow that sounds hard. I think that if you have rejection issues- and I do too, then you can be quite alert to rejection when maybe he is tired or worried about something? But grr, what a time to be refusing jsing. I have noticed that my husband is treating it as a project whereas when it was just shagging- without intent- he was quite lazy. Makes you feel horrible, doesn't it? So nothing useful to suggest but sympathy and hope he gets his mojo back in time for oving!

no other news from me, I am lurking lots but not getting to keyboard often- dd vv keen on smearing stuff on it! Feeling quite hopeful, think will wait until after ertd due to test- so maybe at weekend.
Josie sounds like all getting better for you- congrats on good yard coming through! And Bam glad happier now, I feel for you. We were away for weekend at relative's wedding. It was v cold and rainy. Glad to be back in sunny London. And to have dd in separate room- no chance of jsing with her in room AND MiL next door with interconnecting unlocked door [sends Mr. Caramel off on a romance brushing up course,once he's got some energy back, grrr]

Sorry Bam, missed a bit, I meant I feel for you re: ttc journey and feeling down- and also the 1st April birthday. But glad happier now. My friend's is 1st January so always grumpy hungover parents, maybe even worse. Right time to stop posting- sorry for multiples, kept forgetting stuff

caramelgirl he says he is still a bit worried about getting me pregnant, not that he doesn't want it to happen, just the thought of it still scares him a bit, due to money mainly. He assures me that he still wants a baby with me, and would be 100% on board once (if) I get pregnant. So I guess he's having a subconcious block there ... I'm trying not to put pressure on him by announcing it's my most fertile time or going on about having a baby, but he does know how much it means to me (wouldn't mind, but it was him who changed MY mind about having a baby, I was against it due to my age and money, but he talked me round by showing me examples of others in our situation managing perfectly well!) It's since I had a MC in our first cycle of TTC that he's 'less excited' about it

I've told him it's not so easy for me to switch off those feelings, and I think at last he understands that, and so I'm also trying not to 'scare' him with all the broody/baby talk - to him, if it happens, it happens.

The rejection issues just exacerbates the problem though!

Sorry to hear about your mc crowette, and your DPs reluctance lately. I guess it's understandable, in some ways, but I remember my DP having a similar time a couple of months ago and saying it was because he's scared of me being pregnant again, despite wanting a baby... and I remember how hard it was for me. I think I even had a similar rant on here back then! He remembers how ill I got and how depressed I was when DD was first born and I couldn't do anything for her or have the special new mum time others had as I was trapped in hospital etc. I just had to talk to him about it, reassure him that the chances are in our favour for things to go better this time etc.

My blood tests showed no thyroid problem... So now I'm being sent for another ECG (my third in a year - including the 1 I had during labour ) and he took a urine sample for a pg test, which I get the results for on Friday.

We're back to using condoms for the time being, I guess until my next period at the very least (but probably until we've got to the root of my irregular "cycle" - 45 days late!), so I probably should be evicted from this thread!

babylann don't you dare leave this thread! Glad you don't have a thyroid problem, but hope the doctor can work out your cycle and sort things out for you. Maybe you'll get a nice surprise on Friday.

Thank you for your thoughts caramel. This thread has been a real life-saver in terms of my sanity! I am much better now. I don't hold out much hope for this month, but I won't give up.

crow I'm glad you and your DH can talk things through. I hope you are okay.

Evening Viroids. Once again I have to apologise for being AWOL. My mum was here for ages, then between work being busy and my horse still being unwell, I've had very little time for MN. And sadly, a lot less for JSing [mad].

By that I mean - none. In a month. So at least I don't have a 2ww to endure. And for those of you worrying about your age - I'm 36! So probably far too old, buy hey ho!

Sorry, didn't mean for that to be so down! I have lurked through all your posts; I hope those of you having crap times start to feel better soon. Particularly wanted to say hi to Josie and to say I'm very pleased things seem to be turning around for you. . I'm sure there are a lots of other important things I've not commented on, but I've just read through about 8 pages, so I'm confused .

Right off to check on my horse before bed, then get up again in 4 hours to check her again. I like to think I'm in training for motherhood .

all round :)

nelly I'll be 39 on Thursday - well and truly past it

Am feeling a bit better now, OH and I had another chat and cleared up some other stuff - so fingers crossed!

Glad you feel a bit better crow. :) But you can't trump my "I feel old" card, as I'm TTC JSing toward my first child at this ripe old age! Don't know if this is science or just made up in my head, but it's got to be worse/harder trying for your first now, as opposed to 2nd or 3rd? I do wonder what I did with all those years .

Ah yeah, there is that :) I was 20/21 when we were TTC DD1 and I fell within 3 months, was 27 when we planned DD2 and again fell within the 3 months, without really trying that hard ... was so easy compared to now. I was thinking the other day about DD1 getting pregnant (she's 17) and although I'd want her to experience life before having a child, I'd also not want her to have any problems conceiving and worrying that she's left it too late ... to make the most of her most fertile years. It's a tricky one to get right. That said, I think I would be upset if she got pregnant before finishing uni!

However, a few of my old school friends are having their first children in the last couple of years with no problems.

Anyway ... actually managed to JS earlier should still be in the window, if like last cycle. Pretty sure I had OV pain this evening, so here's hoping!

Just a quick post - had an absolutely amazing weekend! I went with the yard that text me on friday, the one I originally wanted, and haven't looked back. No regrets leaving the other yard, best thing I ever did. They have a tea room, called the 'Snug' and I've sat in there, in front of the wood fire, watching tv, in a rocking chair with a Loving every minute! And the horse has settled really really well, better than I ever imagined I am possibly the happiest person alive right now, oh, and ERTD arrived on Saturday, can't say I'm that bothered for a change

Great GREAT news Josie, I am so happy for you! I have been on mostly good yards in the past, and am very very lucky to have mine at home now; but have heard horror stories before. So glad you got out - and does that mean next winter, you can have turn-out?

Well done on JS, Crow. As OH and I fell into bed exhausted last night, me setting my alarm for 3 hours later; I did ask him if we were ever going to have sex again :( He was a bit non-commital TBH...

Josie the new yard sounds fab. I'm not 'into' horses, but that makes me want one, just so I go there

Nelly when OH and I DO get around to JSing, we also lie there after and say 'we should do this more often', but life gets in the way! I'd be inclined to think he was non-commital because he was exhausted?

I had an old friend over today, with her two grand daughters, aged 4 and 2 ... I had been wondering if I was doing the right thing, TTC, when seeing some of the brats toddlers I see around the store I work in, but I'm now extra extra broody! They were sooo sweet, not perfectly behaved, but lovely. I got loads of cuddles and kisses and they wanted to hold my hand when we popped to the shop ... I really really do want one

Our problem was foreplay. We would get into bed, be all excited and playful and then we would wear each other out with foreplay and never actually get to the JSing. In fact, it's the same now despite us not TTC at the mo. Bought a pack of condoms the other day, it's still unopened despite going to bed with the intention of some woohoo (sims2 reference!) a few times now

Not sure I've ever heard of too much foreplay being a problem . Ah, the joys of youth...

(sorry, that's my second "I'm so old" post in as-many days. I'll stop now .)

Evening!
Dont even consider leaving the thread Babylann, you are one of the few I'm starting feel like I 'know'! I like you, please stay :)
NervousNelly - TTC at age 36, but no sex for a whole month? Too busy despite having no kids yet? I really dont mean to be rude - but why no JSing? Me and DP hardly swing from the chandeliers twice a day r anything, but a month seems a long time. Saying that (TMI warning!) we can both come in about 5 minutes reach satisfaction in good time - I think if we had to shag for an hour or two each time we'd probably shag a lot less
Right, off to Salsa now, hope you're all having great nights and lots of JSing! xx

Thank you Penguin! I have to stay with all the lovely people here. As, once we have decided what we are doing about this new house and my university, I shall be JSing and SWIing once more anyway. Who knows as well, maybe my wee sample will come back on Friday with some happy news :)

Hello viroids!

I've been AWOL as I've not been a very good viroid. I must confess.... I've been obsessing and charting and getting my hopes up!
But hey, guess what - all hope was dashed today with a big temp drop and AF arriving :(

Nelly - don't worry, we struggle with JSing too. Just twice last cycle (so why am I so suprised at AF??!) It is so hard when DH comes home from work stressed and tired, DS wakes up early every morning and some nights DH is away anyway!
As for foreplay, I asked DH earlier when I'd had any of that recently

Anyway, DH and I did have a good chat earlier when I was feeling emotional with AF and he's promised to make more of a concerted effort this month.
AIBU to feel such a failure for not getting pg?! Oh tell me to lighten up and stop taking it all so seriously!!!

Maybe that's exactly what I need to do so I'll get back to being a good viroid and will try and keep up better.

YANBU essence. I'm glad your DH has agreed to make more of an effort.