No Science. Just Shagging. Them's the rules! Thread for the Viroids.

[NervousNelly]

The (updated)(again)(again) 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator for the Viroids:

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday (or when you've had bad news). Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended). (But it does work).

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at every opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Keep acronym-age to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'. Try not to get sucked in by Fertility Friend (at least for a while), but knowing where you are in your cycle and furkling for pant snot is most definitely allowed.
OV is ovulation - I'm allowed to forget what date I've OVd, feel free to join me on that one!

Bunting is to be put out for any small victory, thread-parties are held regularly and hugs are always welcome!

Once you have your BFP, feel free to hang around and share your wisdom and virtual cocktails with the JSers.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Most of these rules are well and truly broken!! But we try to chill - honest

Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Part 3 Graduates
Bonkerz - BFP
Kitten - BFP
Cowboylover - BFP
takingtheplunge ? BFP

Part 4 Graduates:
NoMoreChocBiscuits - BFP
Milanomum - BFP
Cremegg - BFP
BrassicaBabe - BFP
Dynababy - BFP

Part 5 Graduates:
TakeThatLady - BFP
Vallinna - BFP
SingingMog - BFP
aDarkStarWithStrangeWays - BFP
Eskarina - BFP

Part 6 Graduate
Reality

So we really need a super fertile thread this time Viroids! Come on, Shag Capes at the ready :)

Good morning everyone. How is everyone today?

And welcome Molly :)

Sorry about your ERTD, Nelly. :(

I'm starting to wonder whether TTC is such a good idea right now. My obvious problems are going to make it tricky and potentially a long-winded process (I'm guessing) and I just feel like I can't hold out forever. I have a place at university, held for me since I turned it down originally in Sept '09 due to finding out I was pregnant. They are still letting me go back this September, which I wasn't originally planning on doing, but now I have a lot to think about... The university fees are going up, which means more long-term debt, and I'm beginning to consider a teaching career which means I'd need to do post-grad stuff too, so it's going to be a few years before I can become a valuable member of the financial team in this household

I really wanted my babies close together, but since that doesn't look like it's going to be very easy to do right now (I'm one and a half months late for my period and who knows when I'll have another one and/or ovulate ), surely I can't keep holding out on university forever? They won't hold my place again, so it's now or never if I want to go to this particular university, which is a good one.

Another choice would be to go to university AND have another baby, which I know is possible - in fact I have a friend doing it now - but there's a 1 hour train commute involved and due to my pregnancy complications with DD, it's not something I could honestly imagine to be viable.

I do also have to consider childcare... [grumble] Why is everything so complicated?

(I bet if I decide to stop TTC, my period will arrive tomorrow and become regular again!)

Oh, and in case I wasn't clear (or you didn't already know), university fees are going up in September 2012 and the particular university I've got a place at has already announced plans to raise their fees to £9,000 per year. If I started this year, I'd get them at the lower rate.

I've got a bit of a warning about vitamins....

spoke to the midwife yesterday about my first appointment, and she was saying about folic acid, and I'm taking that, so I said fine.
she said "are you aware about the foods you must avoid?" so i told her my sister gave me a book about it.
then I decided when I got home, it might be an idea to read the food section
it went on and on about avoiding vitamin A - now, when I was getting ready to give blood, I bought a multi-vitamin tablet pack, because I wanted to make sure my iron was okay.
I had noticed the vitamin A in it, but wasn't sure why it was a Bad Thing. (i seem to recall it does something to the liver, or something...). Anyway, so this booksaid "avoid any multi-vitamins with vitamin A in". oops

so, i was only about halfway through the pack, and i've had to stop taking it (so i've been taking it right since conception, i reckon....)

This morning we went into Savers (a chemist store local to us) and got a "pregnancy" vitamin supplement. It's got NO vitamin A in at all, loads of iron, loads of B12 (whic hveggies can be short on), and loads of folic acid.
Phew!

so that's my warning - if you're taking multi-vitamins, take one aimed at pregnant women (the one i bought said it's suitable for trying to conceive as well as pg and bf-ing women)

and osrry aboutyour ERTD Nelly

sorry

oh babylann :( it's not fair, is it?

Meh! I'll figure something out. Maybe it was a sign? Maybe someone on a cloud wants me to go to university.

Nice catch with the multi-vitamins. I never knew to avoid vitamin A, but I always took the "mother to be" ones anyway, can't remember what the brand was called.

You've got so many things to think about! Baby names, birth plans, hospital bags, birthing partners, pain relief, finding out the sex. I loved being pregnant because it stopped me from thinking about anything else, at all! I've always had terrible anxiety and panic attacks, but when I was pregnant I didn't have a single one (apart from one morning when DD didn't kick for a few hours ) because you're always so busy thinking, "When the baby comes..."

on top of my list of things to think abouit is how will i cope with the shop?
will i be able to afford to employ a person to help out (and do a lot of hours)?

baby names are sorted. (the child had better not come out not looking like the name that has been pre-ordained)
Not finding out the sex.
want home birth and minimal interference - ie noone is poking around in my fanjo, or putting needles into my belly.
I will allow scans, blood taken from my arm, blood pressure tests and wee samples. that is all
pain relief - I don't mind drugs, but nothing where they inject me.
I will take gas and air, tens, water, and any tablet or liquid drug.

DH is busy thinking "when the baby comes... I'll never sleep again" - this coing from the man tht can fall asleep at the drop of a hat and sleeps so soundly through the night that I once had a coughing fit for nearly half an hour, and kept sitting up and thrashing around, and he didn't even know it was happening!

No drinking green tea either nickel (just in case you do) - it inhibits absorption of folic acid apparently, eek.

I'm on extra calcium at the moment, as totally gone off milk...

babylann hope you sort out what you want to do, sounds like you have big old decisions there. I've been broody for years but put off ttc until I had finished my degrees (it was hard enough writing a thesis without feeling sick, not to mention the horrors of baby brain )

re you deliberately trying to make me sick? green tea? [boak]

I was fine with the milk - i drain off the milk in my weetabix before i eat the solid, so i know that was fine.
(please don't let me go off milk!)

Tee hee nickel know what you mean about the no poking around thing - I really don't like the sound of that at all, but guessing when it comes to the crunch I will be probably be so desperate to get the baby out somehow that pride will go out of the window!

I miss tea

i've just heard so many stories about how poking around has slowed things down or might have made it more uncomfortable.

it's that that's frightening me (bloody MN) - although my sister told me the same thing - she said they offered to burst her waters, and she accepted because she assumed they knew what they were doing, but it made the rest of the process so much worse.

you can have tea!
you can have 2 cups of tea a day!

you're allowed 200mg of caffeine, and tea is 75mg

chocolate is upto 50mg, though, so only 4 bars a day...

You can have tea, but when you can taste caffeine it tastes foul (not everyone gets this, you might be ok!)... and when you've gone off milk, even decaff tastes revolting. Miss it though. Peppermint just doesn't quite cut it. Chocolate still ok though

I probably shouldn't read half the stuff I do on MN but forewarned is at least forearmed...

Don't let anyone stop you eating eggs btw - if they are lion stamped the hens will have been vaccinated against salmonella, so should be safe, however runny!

I found it really strange, but I was surprisingly okay with people poking around. When I was about 38 weeks, had been diagnosed with mild pre-eclampsia and had such dreadful SPD, just wanted DD out of me - they offered me a "sweep" and I jumped at the chance! Most yucky and painful experience ever (up to that point anyway ), but I took up the offer of another one the week after! And when I was in labour they broke my waters twice (apparently I had two bags in there )

Hopefully your birth will be a really straightforward, home delivery. I wish I'd been able to have one but I hadn't even contemplated it at the time, and it wouldn't have worked if I tried. DD wasn't willing to come naturally and I'd been classed high risk by then anyway.

Don't be too scared by MN stories. People generally don't feel the need to talk about it as much if they've had a really easy ride, which the majority of people do. DP's sister has two boys, both born naturally without any pain relief with labours lasting less than 6 hours.

Also, re: caffeine, it was so annoying. I craved coca cola throughout my pregnancy and really made up for it after she was born. Only just got over my addiction

:( katee I've been drinking a raspberry herbal tea. Twining's. lovely :)

yeah, i'm not stopping wating eggs! getting our own chickens at some point next week (would have been sunday, but they're not around)

babylann hope i don't get pre-eclampsia! I have normally low blood pressure, so I hope not! (although, that probably means that if they read a normal bloodpressure, then it'll be high for me, so worrying!)

I swear raspberry tea is what they suggest you drink to naturally induce labour? Or am I mistaken..?

oh no!

they probably do. It might be strawberry. better check....

raspberry is fine - just don't drink the raspberry leaf tea (until third trimester anyway)!

okay, i'll remember that

I don't feel poorly today - I'm beginning to wonder if that BFP was all in my imagination
I had dance last night, and was fine through most of it (but I didn't do the jumping and leaping around)

Nickel and Katie you sound very clued up and organised I'd just be winging it

Babylann I'm sorry I can't help with your dilemma, but I agree that you shouldn't put your life on hold while ttc. I don't want to sound glum but if it can take years it might be too late for uni by the time you get pg.

I've decided to go for that new job! As someone said, they have to pay me SMP by law if I've been working for the same organisation for 26 weeks by the 15th week or something like that. Either way, I qualify. So I'll be working on my application this weekend!! I'm really really nervous but I think it's a positive move

do I? no, i'm just winging it too! haven't got a clue what's going on!

Good luck josie!

I'm only clued up due to obsessive reading around the subject.. just winging it really as you have to take every day as it comes. Thankfully though I am still knackered as hell the nausea has mostly eased off now, though that comes with its own worries...

Try not to worry :) Symptoms come and go. Trust me! One day you feel terrible, sickly, tired, headachey, depressed... the next day you feel like you could spring clean your whole house, go for a ten mile walk, go out dancing and still be in the mood to run a marathon (don't though !)