30s TTC - The BESH thread at the end of WOOniverse.

[PrincessBoo]

Donne thy robes and come join the hagges round a crackling fire made of ye olde pee sticks, as we run around nekkid, high on snorted baybeedust, and do our straynge erotick rituals on the altar of ye inconstant moon.

Come one, come all as we cast spelles and do any Magick we can finde on our queste for an elusive win.

Bring thy gynne for yon cauldron and help thyself to a laddle, as we prepare the incantationnes...

bitey

what ABV pls?

have spent the last 20 mins mindlessly played bejewlled on the other place to blast away angry feelings.

I'm ok now-can we burn him at the stake instead?

Alcohol by volume chippychipsaresomuchnicerthanovenones he needs to be at least 20% or will dilute it! Hope you feeling happier now after bejewelledathon? I am just slipping into a food coma after hoooooogr Chinese takeaway nom nom nom!

ah yes, well clarkson watch it is then.

acktewally I have now forgiven him and if i could just get him off the playsation i'd be taking him to bed.

Mmmm Bitey Chinese takeaway here too. Have had long enough for it to go down to now be enjoying a cup of tea.

FishFingers can see why that would be annoying but gad you have now forgiven him. Good luck with prising him from the PS3, if you can manage it you're a stronger woman than I!

Thanks for nice comments re: hair colour, I must report that it's not actually as bright as it is on the box moggle. My hair is very dark naturally apart from the greys and although it is much redder than previously, from a distance it still looks dark brown. Oh well, TGB is chuffed at least.

I'm happy to befriend peeps in t'other place, I love nosing at peoples' photos making new friends.

truffkin

I am v grey, about 60-70% now and I am seriously thinking of embracing it and letting it grow out. I am only 36, it will look dreadful for ages until it has grown out enough for the bravest of short crops. but I think it can look good on some, usually suits thier skin tone more and I quite like the idea of being a bit different.

I need help to be brave on this.

Mrfish has not yet given up on the PS. despite I have made my offer to him v clear. (at least verbally-may not have put him in the mood)

Theres just not enough effort in the house tonight!
To be fair to us both were knackered from looking after icklefish with shingles.

ah ell que sera-may tuck into new book instead.

See, I do like silvery grey hair but mine isn't widespread enough to do that yet. It's kind of in patches at the sides so would look odd (I'm 32 but have had greys encroaching for a few years now). My Mom on the other hand has finally given in after dyeing her hair for 20 years and she looks fabulous with her mixture of graphite and silver grey.

Maybe give yourself a night off if you're both tired and go for a nice wake up call tomorrow? I was hoping my new red hair and epilated legs might have done the trick but we're watching the FA cup highlights and as it gets later I'm thinking of taking my own advice (see above)!

I woke up dreaming of red hair. I think I am going to go for it! Yay for the BESH redheads.

Am also aware that I was banging on about miniboo a bit too much for this thread - sorry all. Been a bit consumed by his birthday ( and thanks on his behalf for all the birthday wishes :) )

Hope you all have fabulous Sundays all - I'm all better now thankfully so am off to buy my chili ingredients, see y'all at sundown.

ooh boo good to see you up and about babes. Feeling better?

looking fwd to seeing you laters xx

Morning! Got up full of energy (well not really, but marginally less zombieifed than usual) ready to Do Things, and Achieve, and now it looks like we'll be fixed to the sofa until Murray finishes. Can't yet decide whether this is a good thing or not.

Am slightly all of a dither cos I think we may have made large decision re where we will live for next bit of a while yesterday. (Hope yous don't mind, might just tell you and see if I can do it in a way that makes it seem like a good idea, as practice for RL) (It may be long, it will be boring, so feel free to skip) For many years (4) now we have lived in a bit of a hole due to house being in family, so free initially, though we pay now. It is in not great area of really not great town (think rock and towers for those who don't know) and although there are pluses- walking to beach (never do it,our nearest bit isn't the best bit, so we usually drive) going to the park (not the only park in the world)near lots of pound shops (confused) I'm getting a bit antsy about thinking about schools. (and then having muchos angstos about being snobby about schools- comes from working in a pretty rough school, and seeing what comes with ) Anyways We have third share in in laws house which is in ridiculously quaint English village (duck pond and cricket on the green) which is currently being done up by BBB at quite a slow pace meaning we don't see him much at W/e; it's a big house with capacity to split off into two parts, with only the garden being shared. So... he suggested yesterday that we move in with them,to speed the sale of ours -needs titivating, would be easier without us here- and help him finish theirs quicker, and then when we sell it we can head off into the sunset. And we'd have a big garden. And lots of room. And everything we do would still be 20 minute drive. It's really a no brainer isn't it. Except I'd have to live next to/with his parents. See that sounds reasonable doesn't it? End of account.

boo I've been wondering just lately if there's capacity for a BESH type fred for moans/queries/mentions of older children. I know it's not my place of nuffin to start it but someone else could! It does seem that the FESH spa is much more about surviving with a newborn (in my opinion most important info there is) and as the gorgeous PESH graduate they will want it to stay that way, but then there are other things to talk about when they get bigger- just a thought? Am also very conscious of mentioning little person here, it's not really fair, but when it's most of what you do, it can get tricky. We need ski to do it, she's an original. That is if she's freed herself from the KGB by skiing out of the window and onto a passing train roof.

truff I've pmed you with other place stuff

Fab idea Starnose - we could just call it something suitably ESH like and toddlery, and stick it in post natal clubs? Then we can keep all our toddler talk out of conception and stop shoving it in the faces of the other ESHes.

As for the other stuff, yes, it does seem like a no brainer - but I would have equal trepidation about living with in-laws - how long would it be for? At least you would know it was only temporary?

Laters, potaters :)

Loads of luck with today boo I am in the wood of boars already so had thought of popping over to give you a hand this morning? but think I might have to go for a nap instead as have been up since 5 and would have to be back by 1 so not sure thete is time. Glad you are feeling better!!

I think that's a very sweet and conciderate idea molesworth although I know when I was besh I never minded hearing about besh PFBs in the same way I never resented other peeps children IRL kind of gives you hope (but I can't talk for anyone else) you could call it MESH Mothering Evil Selfish Hags? :) or DESH Doting ESH etc.

Oooh I went red two Christmasses ago, loved it! It requires commitment though and it is the hadest colour to remove once in. As a natural blondie (oh alright mouse with blonde ambition) it faded to a fetching shade of apricot when I failed with the upkeep.

starrystarrynight the free childcare bell just went off in my head at your moving plans! I think as long as you get on well and there are clear boundaries it can work out fine. I suppose it depends on your realtionship with your inlaws and how interfering helpful they are about your lfestyle, parenting etc.

Glad you're feeling better boo and spiderboos birthday sounded fab

Pliz pliz ancient druidding goddesses let ski be having the intrepid adventures imagined by moleoftheriverbank! Duck ski here comes a tunnel!

If by "adventures" you mean farting every time I sneeze - i.e., approximately 42 times an hour then yes, I am like a Bond Girl. I'd be well up for MESH, I've been shown over the last 2 weeks that I am so un -PFB I take it to a new level. I found myself rolling my eyes furiously at the parenting of others.

I'm sorry, you're all being very funny and I can't join in because all I'm capable of doing right now is producing phlegm. I'm even contemplating phoning in sick to work tomorrow. :( Pesky bloody germs from English people!

Oooh BESHers I'm a recent convert to the redheads too. It's a dark kind of burgundy shade.

Fish I have the same problem with MS. He is obsessed with this bloody driving game. Sometimes I think he actually believes he is driving a car round Le Mans

I'm not really meant to be here to be honest. I sort of told myself that I would just lurk as I think we aren't really TTcing at the mo. But then I keep wanting to say stuff. So I will just carry on.

Moles seems like a good plan you've got going on about the house - do you like the IL's?

I don't mind hearing about the small BESH's - in fact I quite like it.

Thanks for t'other place info, have made some new friends!

Moley I would definitely do it if I were in your position. My in laws are great but I would need some time off so the split living space would be ideal. With Molette the grandparents on hand would also be brill and it sounds like a lovely place for her to live. When's the housewarming? Actually it's been some time since I last enjoyed the delights of Valhallah so we might have to arrange a BESHmeet!

Sorry for poorliness SnowHorse have a ladleof the cauldron potion to perk you up

I'm going to drag my lazy ass out of bed now (pre-OV shagathon going well so far) as we have to take theChristmas tree to the recycling place

Och Noo- Murray didn't win. Never mind, there's always Wimbledon
We've been out for lovely walk with my new birthday wellies on (yes, BESH, I do live on the edge) and they were comfy so all is well with the world.

Thanks for all responses, I have 'interesting' IL- they are a bit odd, but very different from my Ps in that they would literally lay down in the road in front of a big tank, if it made their children's or grandchildren's lives even remotely more comfortable. (No offence to my P's- they just acknowledge that we're grown ups and should therefore stand on our own two feet) I've witnessed it for years with SIL but am more on the receiving end now I've produced a GC of my own.
MIL is very sweet, but is the kind of mother who congratulates her children for managing to breath: 'Ooh, you did it all day, aren't you clever!'
Whereas my Ps were more of the 'You got 99%?, what did you get wrong?' ilk. I find all the 'you're great' a bit stifling, (and it kind of kills conversation) but seriously I know that it's not a real complaint and I'm very very lucky. She's said many a time that she wishes all her children lived at home so she'd be really really chuffed- it would just be a matter of keeping her a bit at arms length, or I'll never get a look in with molette.

I don't know how long it will be for- house could go really quickly, but with economy as it is, who knows? It is kind of at the price range where people who are spending that much have it anyway, IYSWIM, but needs someone who gets the wibbly feeling when they see it.

Vis a vis the KESH (Knackered Evil Selfish Hags ) or SESH (Saggy Evil Selfish Hags) its not for totally altruistic means- I do sometimes have parenty things I'd like to ask other 'like minded' people who are intimately acquainted with my FFJ, (still finding it difficult to bring it up at play group) but don't want to start conversations here and take things off topic. And going elsewhere in MN would end up with getting to know a whole load of other people, and that sounds like effort . Also, don't tell anyone, but in RL I like to create the illusion that I know what I'm doing, I find it much easier to admit failure and weaknesses on here.
It is reassurring to know that people aren't too bothered with the odd refs though-thanks for that: Now would you like me to e-mail you all the sheet on which molette wrote a S and an H totally unprompted yesterday?
alpinehoarse (ha ha) sorry to hear you under the phflfphlegm. Here, have a hot toddy, and a hot Todd (added benefit of medical knowledge)

pleasedonttakemysunshineaway Nuff said!

I think a MESH/DESH is a fab idea. It's only fair and I wish to be sensitive to everyone circs here ofc, but it's hard to talk about silly stupid rows with dh, over her if i cant mention her. I have no wish to upset anyone

Course not insectsandpoppies tis something that comes up every so often- bugger of being a BESH is that at our age 'secondary infertility' also prevails AFAIK there have been BESH with offspring since the dawn of the palais-and the other freds have sprung up as and when the need has aroze. S'all glorious tapestry and that innit. Now get you hiney over here, down this rather fetching purple coocktail and let me warm you up occupy you until he puts down the electronic device

Stellanosedrodent you have me larf.

Seriously, I feel a bit of an imposter too. I am already blessed (years of Enedometriosis/career/partying/ meant that one came along later than the daily mail thinks it should have-if only i'd known you BESH then) and we have only just begun to ttc#2 and some of you ladies have been through the proverbial and back. I'm glad I haven't upset, being a relative BESH junior I am wary. Still feeling my way but like it here.

/sniffs nervously at purple cock(tail) :)

I has NEW BOOTS! Pliz to ignore over excitement but am too fat for new clothes and not diffed anough for maternity gear. Also had a bargain as the label in Schuh said £60 but when they were scanned they were £70. I held my breath and managed to stop my bottom lip from wobbling and they gave them to me for £60! Yay! here they are if you are feeling nosy?

Sorry you are feeling so rotten ski. Here, I will add the juice of one lemon to the cauldron and transform it into a hot toddy. At least you are not peeing when you sneeze!

Ps ski did do a google image search for hot men called todd but only found a scary wrestler, which brought back terrible memories of clarkson-mankinigate. So you will have to make to do with boozy lemon and honey!

oh those boots are lovely nibbler.

I am, in fact, quite envious.

Thanks nemoandbudleia I am wearing them now and feeling very happy!

stardust don't know how I didn't see your post but well done on finding a much better Todd than the ones I saw! Wonder if molette was trying to write "shoes"? You are teaching her very well!

Hee hee Hoorayforfish we can do so much with your new name, it's ace, please don't change it ever again :o

I need to do a serious amount of gushing about how amazingly helpful my family were today and take back absolutely everything I said about them yesterday. They were amazing. And so was fishyflower's cake. I am truly blessed.