Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[galwaygal]

This is a continuation of the "More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings"

I thought I would keep the title short as there are so many long ones out there.

I thought I would start the new thread so that you don't forget me

hope you have a nice day with your MIL! i do get on with mine (which is good!) but then thats because she is miles and miles away!

Actually my mil does live over 200 miles away, she isnt too bad in small doses. So far so good.

Tis quiet here today.

Welcome ozmum23 . You say your hubby wants another, how do you feel?

Curly hope you are managing with MIL. Hamster is fab but had horrible dream that it escaped! It is quite stressful watching DD paw at the hamster and wondering if it is planning its Colditz like escape. I would let it is I thought it could survive but I know it can't.

Hi all.

Was hoping to post good news but not to be [of course not].I m having a chemical pregnancy.Had faint positives last wed,Thurs,Fri and Saturday.Did clear blue digital tests x3 and saw those magical words "1-2 weeks pregnant" but having had a CP before thought that would happen.Lo and behold: 2 tests today : Not pregnant.

Lifes a fu**ing bitch then you die.This happened the month before i concieved Georgie so just want to get back to it, i guess.Anyone know how long it ll be before i get my af? Last year, no the year before, it took 4 days .

So , welcome to another year of shit.I knew this wouldn t last but wish id never had any positive tests if this was the case.

Louise I'm so sorry, that's crushing. Like you I conceived the month after a chem preg. I think it's quite common to, so fingers still tightly crossed for you soon. AF was a week later than a normal cycle for me, I remember well the relief when it arrived so we could get on with trying again. It won't be long, though I'm sure it will seem so. I'm so sad for you this evening. That's just not fair. I hope the next week or so doesn't drag too much till you're trying again.

TANK i am sorry you suffered the most tragic of losses and my thoughts are truly with you.

Your flagrant flouting of Mumsnet trolling rules means that I am no longer able to seek comfort in this board

I find your blatant disregard for MN rules ( there to support the majority) to be hurtful. You seem to be enjoying the 'bans' and putting your IT skills to the test. This board was supposed to be about mutual support and I for one found the way you were able to speak to other MN ers to be worse than 'un' supportive. I respect the 'powers that be' on here and find your posting as tiresome as they do.

After 6 years as a Mnetter I shall have to totally PARP off this thread at a time when I need it

Everyone else - see you anon and all the best. I REALLY do hope you all have a happy and fertile 2011 x

FH do you know something we don't? PM me if you don't feel comfortable saying it on here.

I'm really sorry to see you go - I remember you in your other incarnation[s] too.

louise I'm so sorry. CPs are something else I wasn't aware of before this year.(last year). Finger's crossed for you next month - you're meant to be more fertile after a cp.

everyone else hello! Trying hard to eat less and failing miserably. Can't be arsed to exercise either. Did tidy the house today though (it was a disaster zone).

Louise I am so very sorry.

Frustratedhippy I cannot speak for the rest of the thread, only for myself. I do not want to see you leave this thread at all, but it must be your choice whether you stay or go. If you need support and help, I for one am here for you. I really do not understand why you find any of Tank?s posting ?hurtful? or why you are so concerned about Tank or her appearance here at any time. I have certainly noticed that she has not been on here for some time. But whether she appears here, or not, does not make me feel uncomfortably.

Personally, I would rather this thread were here for all who need support. I, for one, have noted your comments re the other poster and I do not see that you need to leave. You do not need to reply to me at all. I just wanted you to know that you do not need to leave. You can stay and just get the support you need and if the thread is able to support others, that is great too (in my opinion).

Aah shite LOU What a load of crap gggrrhhh...... Yep they do say that you are more fertile after a CP so fingers crossed and good luck honey x

Oh dear what's going on now with Tank ???

Hi to all.....Italian Zumba is an energetic dance/aerobic type thing (I think) and some gyms are doing classes it's suppose to be all the rage ..... So tomorrow when I have a nice quiet empty house I may give it a whirl......

Hippy, Gum, Tank/fluffy/fairy, Louise, Jolls and Dieage hope you are able to find some positive part of entering this new year/decade? Hugs to you too sweeties.

Alba all the best for the coming weeks.

ozmum23 , Curly, Frustrated, GG, BB and all - waves and smiles for 2011.

I am feeling very excited about 2012. I feel it could be OUR year. I mean me and DH. Either we will get successful treatment or we will give up. One way or other it will be over!

Muchlove I will post to you in a minute.

lou shit and bollocks. No-one deserved it to go well more than you do, honey. I suppose if it wasn't gonna stick around better to find out asap but still shit and bollocks! You are a very fertile couple and I'm sure this year will bring you your much deserved baby. ((()))

frustrated I don't really know what to say to you . I don't think tank has enjoyed having to change her name so many times - I think she just wanted to let us all know how she was and that was her only means of doing it. I totally respect your decision and if this is what feels right for you then I guess that's what you have to do. But I must say once again, she has never said anything hurtful on this thread - quite the reverse.

If you change your mind - we're all still here .

Guys - apologies, I just posted this message below to Muchlove on an old thread so please do not get confused!!!

Italiangreyhound Mon 03-Jan-11 22:06:58

Muchlove felt very sad as I read your post from Saturday. I know the pressure to have a baby and to have another. I just hope as you wait for this to happen or not happen, whatever, that you will find some things that will give you some extra joy and happiness and some added purpose in your life, whatever that may be. I think we can re-invent parts of our lives over time and find happiness in unlikely places. Certainly as I have waited for baby number two to arrive (or not, as the case has been) I have found that my work (just part-time administration work for a Christian organisation, which I love) has come to fill some of the ?void? of not having a second child. A few years back I was very upset by any kind of cruelty or violence and could not even read the fliers from Amnesty International. But I felt so sad about people who were tortured and imprisoned for political reason etc so I started writing to my MP about political prisoners, which meant reading the Amnesty website etc and knowing what happens around the world. I am still horrified by violence and cruelty but I am at least able to read enough to write a protest letter or organise a fundraiser for a charity. A few years ago I was not at all keen on animals and had forgotten all my interest in them (as a kid my dad loved animals and my sis and I had numerous pets and visited horses to feed them etc). As an adult I had decided that I was just not into keeping a pet at all. But I felt it would be nice for DD to have a pet, especially as I had not succeeded in giving her a sibling. So I started to look after other people's pets, walk a neighbour?s dog. Now I am a totally pet person!

I guess what I am saying is that you may not have any more children, or you may, but you can choose to use your time, whatever free time you do have, to do or to be whatever you want. It may take time and of course there are exceptions (I would have loved to be a ballerina but I am not going to do a Dawn French and dress in a tutu!). So as you wait I just hope you can find some good things to fill whatever time you have. If this post is meaningless to you, please ignore it.

PS Muchlove thanks for the tip - I have heard of Zumba and my Rosemary Conley instructor is also doing Zumba, we have done a fast move to the song Had Gaya (the Israsel dance song they sing at weddings!). Very fast indeed!

Hippy second all your comments.

Louise big hugs from me.

Just realised I said ?I am feeling very excited about 2012.? I meant 2011 ? I am not thinking as far ahead as 2012!!!

italian i got the impression that you are quite an organised 'plan ahead' kinda girl. But 2012 did seem to be pushing it a bit .

Hi all. Just taking my place here.

Lou, I'm so sorry about the chemical.How awful for you.

I'm doing okay, ,but not sure where I'm at. I don't want to give up the dream of one more, but I have no idea how to get around that one!

For now, just want to keep a low profile and lick my wounds.

Will I start ovulating again in two weeks? How long did it take others after a miscarriage? My DH better get used to abstinence if/when I become fertile again, because there is no way I'll use birth control!

I'm wondering if I should go and see the doc who did the D&C for some information. I found her to be so lovely, I think I may try to get an appointment with her.

I've had a couple of really lovely messages from Susan, on my blog. I wish I knew what the fuss is about with her MN persona. How is she hurting anyone?

Yes, Italian, may 2011 be OUR year!

Morning . Oh Louise I'm so sorry A cp pregnancy is cruel at the best of times, but to have your hopes raised and then dashed after what you've been through is just awful . As others have said though, from a purely practical level it may well imply raised fertility for the next 3 mths or so. I certainly have a good feeling that you will be pregnant with a 'stayer' very soon x
Italian, I do love reading your posts - you seem very in touch with your emotions and express yourself so well. I took a lot from what you said a while back to muchlove as I suppose I'm in a similar situation having 4 dcs myself. I count myself fortunate in a way that my conscious self believes that any other baby for me would very much be an iceing on the cake baby, and that I wouldn't fall apart if it never happened . I think for me the thought of never having tried would be unbearable, but if I give it my best shot (as I'm doing) then that sits quite well with me.
Frustrated I'll also admit to being a little about your post, but don't want to fuel the flames by going over the whole thing again. I'm perfectly happy for Tank/fluffy to post, and in fact have found what she has to say very helful and inspiring. Sorry if I'm missing totally what you're trying to say!
Hippy how goes it? Are you slanketted yet? I have had sore boobs and metal mouth, as I did the month I got pregnant with mc, but then I also had the same last month...Had a temp drop yesterday (7 days post -ov) and a rise again today, but not spectacular so not really expecting much. Temping really is a mixed blessing at times!
Gum, thinking about your question re: ovulation, thinking back to my mmc at 10 weeks it took about a month after the erpc for my next period, so yes approx 2 weeks before I ovulated. I'm sure this varies widely though between women. May well be worth a visit to the nice consultant so that you can at least get some reliable info' and feel reassured.
Muchlove let me know how the zumba goes - my new gym timetable has classes and I may well go. Anything 'dancy' is right up my street!
On that note, have had an e-mail from the gym telling me to get in touch for my induction session. Only problem being that I am awaiting the delivery of gym stuff from Sweaty Betty (inc trainers) so can't actually go yet (due to trainers obv -the only ones I have are a size too small as my feet went up a size after pregnancy with ds; I'm not such a diva that I can only be seen in my new gear )
Last day of hols today for dds, so have swiped £20 from dh's jeans and am taking them and a friend to the cinema.
Love to all x

RuDiegetheRedNoseReindiege thank for your kind comments. I am quite an emotional person but I also like trying to help people (I mean literally I enjoy it, I offer directions to lost tourists, help people with crosswords even though I don?t like crosswords! I think it is my need to be liked!). I hope I can be of help and if not then ignored!

Your afternoon plans sound lovely.

I have a day of keep fit and charity shop shopping and DD and I are watching ?Three men and a little lady? this afternoon.

She had some stop and grow on her thumb last night to stop her sucking it and as a consequence was up until 11.00 P.M. she joined me and DH watching 'Three men and a baby'! There was nothing else to do she would not go to sleep and kept crying for me to the the stuff off her thumb!

As a child I was the sort who stayed up late so I can't blame her! But it was a one-off, school tomorrow!

I too am having trouble sleeping!!

Please can anyone offer advice? I am taking Levothyroxine (one a day) for possible thyroid problem and one of the side effects is that it can affect sleep. I've had real problems sleeping for the last 4 nights. Has anyone else had these tables, had this problem? Does it get better? Any tips for sleeping? Thanks.

Thanks all you lovely ladies for your supportive comments.I started bleeding last night so at least i can be grateful for that.

Going to try and view this cP as a positive as obviously we are very fertile and my body is ready for another pregnancy.I know you shouldn't look at concidences but i had a CP the month before i concieved Georgie and i m hoping to be extra fertile this month.Just got to hope its s good egg.We ll be back to the EMS plan.

GUM I totally empathise with you wanting to lick your wounds.I always felt very vunerable post Georgie and the MCS.I think i ovulated a couple of weeks post erpc.Your consultant sounds lovely.Take care XX

MUCHLOVE thet have zumba at our gym all seems to be the rage at the moment.

DIEGE.Enjoy the cinema..What did you see?

ITALIAN your posts are lovely, worded so nicely.God, lets hope 2011 is all our year[does that make sense?]

BB i too used to be innocent with regards to pregnancy.Oh, those good old days.

HIPPY thanks.Hope you re ok? Maybe we ll be "pg buddies" the way we re going ...oh, and DIEGE also on our 3 way tricycle!!!!!!

Thanks ALBA hopefully not long for you now? Thanks for telling me your story XXX

Hi to everyone and lets hope we start a nice long run of bfps.Love to you Jolls,FH and anyone i ve missed XXX

gum i think it took me about 3 weeks to ovulate after my EPRC - I had a 5 week cycle. Take care, honey.

diege we seem to be very definitley cycle buddies this time. I'm almost a week in to the 2 ww as well. Good signs from you but I wont mention it anymore for fear of jinxing..... Laughed at you not going to gym until you get new trendy clothes.

lou glad the period arrived so soon. I think once you know it's not a go-er then you just want to get on with next month. Fingers crossed for you on the EMSP.

Italian I take levothyroxine but have not found it causes me problems sleeping (quite the opposite usually). Is there a herbal remedy you can try to get you off to sleep? My DH is an insomniac and came to bed after 3am last night (he was, OF COURSE, then late for returning to work today! - he is in such a bad cycle of sleep. He did try some herbal stuff before but I think he said it made him drowsy at work. He now used a herbal remedy called 'Fosters' to get him off to sleep .

tank so glad to hear from looney that the scan went well. pls come back and tell us all the details. XXX

My 7 year old, my ten year old and an 11 year old friend - all at my house - all boys. Playing Sims.

They decided to see if they could make a baby!! Much laughing and screaming when they persuaded the couple to try for a baby. This consisted of the couple getting under the covers, jumping about and rose petels falling from the ceiling.

Finally after about 3 shags the lady was pregnant . They then had to decide what to dress the pregnant lady sim in.... my 7 year old says,

"I know... I'll ask my mum what she wears, she's trying to get pregnant!" DS1's friend says in total shock.. "IS SHE?!!!!"

Ahh how I laughed

This is my song that I am currently dedicating to any future baby that might be thinking about joining our family, enjoy....

When the rain is blowing in your face
And the whole world is on your case
I could offer you a warm embrace
To make you feel my love

When the evening shadows and the stars appear
And there is no one there to dry your tears
I could hold you for a million years
To make you feel my love

I know you haven't made your mind up yet
But i would never do you wrong
I've known it from the moment that we met
No doubt in my mind where you belong

I'd go hungry i'd go black and blue
I'd go crawling down the avenue
No there's nothing that i wouldn't do
To make you feel my love

The storms are raging on the rolling sea
And on the highway of regret
Though winds of change are blowing wild and free
You ain't seen nothing like me yet

I could make you happy make your dreams come true
Nothing that i wouldn't do
Go to the ends of the earth for you
To make you feel my love

To make you feel my love

So I guess I've promised the little one I'd go hungry - no excuse not to start the diet tomorrow! I actually cried in the car earlier singing along to this and thinking of my future baby - so lucky this thread is anonymous - people in RL would think i was a loon.

I love that song. It's the first one I put on my iphone.

i loved it when Gamu sang it on the X Factor - made me (and Louis) cry ).

Beautiful song HIPPY - Twas written by Bob Dylan ..... Adeles' version is lovely.....
x