Wishful thinking i know but........................................

[Jemma7]

Everyone will probably see this thread was started by me and think "Oh god, not her again".

You can tell it's getting towards that time of the month.

Anyway, on day 26 of cycle - have had a really dull tummy ache for last 2 days as if A/F is going to arrive - actually been going to the toilet to check it's that bad (Gross i know but i have to be graphic).
Woke up this morning feeling really sicky but thought i was just probably hungry as had not eaten last night - therefore went to the shop to buy a Mars Bar (Healthy, i know) and have now just thrown the whole mars bar back up again.

Is it just wishful thinking? Can't test yet as cycle's vary from 28 days to 38 days.

[Azure]

Jemma7, sorry to hear that it wasn't your month. Best of luck for the next month, particularly if you're armed with OPKs and Persona.

[niknik]

Quacks I think with Luteal Phase Defect you come on your period to early for the egg to implant. I must learn to stop diagnosing mysef.

I am fed up I get really bad pains before I start my period, but since my m/c (when I had what I thought was pre period pains and took everything from Brufen to Night Nurse not realising I was pg) I dare not take any thing until I am nearly flooding

[niknik]

I've just read that back, sorry to be so graphic

[quackers]

I probably have about 11-12 days between LH and period, so I suppose they say 10-16 days is normal, I'm just like u, wanting to find a cause. Did u have this before your m/c? How many days do you ahve 10? They say 10+ is normal, less than 10 , then there is not sufficient time to build up the lining. I sort of think though if it implanted ok and went on for a few weeks, then is most probs isn't LH. Don't know if it can affect the embryo later or not. As you can see, on internet again at work doing research. Great idea to do a spreadshett though - well done.

[quackers]

God, I've heard worse on here, doesn't bother me. xx

[BigBird]

hey quacks - going fine. I've decided to bd every other day this mth instead of every day....see if it makes a difference!!!

Hi niknik - I have a spreadsheet too that I started when we started ttcing, with my cd1 dates and (if that month were to be successful) the due date. I copied out 7 or 8 mths thinking there's no way it'll take that long...and this mth i've reached the end and have to copy some new mths on
I hope no-one at work opens it by mistake

[quackers]

Ha Ha,gosh if they looked at my web visits history, they would have a right laugh, I'm convinced IT know all my problems!! Yes every other day should be enough Bigbird, how do you get in the mood for that? Is DH?P always obliging??

[niknik]

Quacks re. my periods, I was concerned about them before I concieved as I was sometimes only 8 and 9 days from Ov to period so my GP was going to refer me to Fertility Doc back in Jan but then I fell pregnant in Feb (the only month that I did'nt temp or Persona as I did'nt think it was worth it) but then m/c'd in March.

I keep thinking that I should do the same again this month but I don't know if I could bear too.

[BigBird]

oh yes - he is very obliging!!! It was every day for the last few mths so this is a break!!! (and I mean for the week...not the whole month)

he's well into all the ttc stuff and even taking zinc etc himself for those little swimmers. He's well up on the in's and out's of temping and opk's etc.

[quackers]

That's good BB!! I'm not going o get into that this time with DH as he's obviously fed up with it now! I suppose it;s cos we just had our first so easily and never knew until I was nearly 6 weeks. Then the 2 disappontments, so I want to try and be natural - well he'll think it;s natyral anyway! My DH was obliging too - amazing isn't it! Not xxxxx
Nik, I'm really sorry you had a m/c after such effort to get pg. I wonder if this is the cause - the short luteal phase thing. They can lengthen it I believe by giving u clomid to stimulate the FSH hormone for longer and thus suppressing the LH a bit.

[Egypt]

Quackers, what do you mean exactly by glands on nipples. I have a lumpy bit on one, but think its always been there, however it does feel v sore to the touch. Also just sitting here shaking, as just squeezed nipples, which i've never done before, but a very little clear fluid came out. oh god oh god oh god......read b4 that this happened to someone on here when just preg. help?!!!!!! cant get hopes up, cant cant cant

Sorry to hear that it wasnt your month this time Jem xxxxx

[bunny2]

Egypt, I will keep my fingers crossed that this will be YOUR month. You've worked hard for it.

[quackers]

Oh Gosh Egypt, yes it does sound very promising. I ha dfluid with my first ( successful) pgcy!!!! There called montgomerys tubercules ( I think). They feel a little tender when u touch them, but not everyone gets them until later. there like tiny raised bumps on your nipples. Fingers are crossed for you, its going to be a long 2 weeks!!!

[Egypt]

Really?!!!!! Did you get them as early as 6 days after ov? Were the leaky bits the Montgomery's glands or your actualy nipple ends? Mine are the nipple ends. Was the liquid clear?

Thanks for replying, I was so excited I have been checking for messages all day to see if anyone else had had them!

[quackers]

No they were from the nipples themselves, only in my first pgcy though like I say and that one fortunately was fine!! It was about a week after conception if I remember rightly!! Oh I'm excited for you and really envious!!! I still have to wait so long and now 2 of my friends have told me they are ttc. I feel a bit under pressure now as they are friends and one lives next door. I started bleeding again or my period got heavier again - not sure which but I hope it stops today. It was so painful though and that's really weird for the end of a period. Pain gone now though. Oh it's never ending and I'm getting disheartnened now. Sorry I''m rambling. Can't reall moan to DH or my Mum, they've heard enough about it I think!

[quackers]

Oh forgot, yes the liquid was clear and there was just a little when I squeezed my nipples.

[rainbow]

Jemma7 better luck next month. My hormone levels were low. My day 21 blood test was, as Dr put it "nothing to write home about!" She put me on tablets and 2 months L8r I was pg. Ttc for 5 years 1st dr was useless 2nd dr brill. Wish I had gone to her earlier. Good luck Jemma7 and you quakers. I be watching the threads for some greatnews!

[bunny2]

Sorry to hear you are fed up Quacks, I really hopw things start going better for you now.

[quackers]

Thanks Bunny, see the post on your threadxxxx
Been to Doc's now and got v upset about all this. had my HCG/FSH/LH bloods done today and Progesterone will be day 20/21. She has booked me in for next week to go over all my results, she was so lovely as always my Doc. However she said I'm obsessed and weepy and has referred me to someone to talk all this over. I've never done anything like this before in my life - but I'm willing to try if it will help sort out my grief and obsession for information and answers. I want my old self back!! LOL to all xxxxxxx
Egypt, how are u today honey????????

[Jemma7]

Oh Quackers, Bless you
Do u feel like it would do you good to talk to someone about it?
Don't do anything you don't want to though.

I didn't realise you were taking this bad - i thought you had started to feel better.
If you want to talk more privately, i'm here if you need me.

Big Hugs
Jem x

[quackers]

Oh thanks Jem, god did I sound that bad, Im sorry, wallowing in self pity really aren;t I. Thankyou so much jems, your are a gem! I am sad yes and feel it would be good to offload it all onto someone else. I need to get out all this and stop obsessing about what could be wrong etc.. Doc was a saint, must send her a card and maybe some flowers, she said I could go in a nytime, just to chat or ask advice. I'm lucky I've got her. How are u Jems???

[Jemma7]

She sounds really nice Quacks - must be nice to have a good relationship and know they are genuinely interested and want to help!

I'm OK - i know i said last week i was geared up for A/F arriving but i have had the most horrific period pains - i went on the pill mainly because i suffered from really bad and heavy periods and since i've come off the pill i've been really surprised, thought i was going to suffer alot. They have been fine up until now - have never taken so many Nuerofen tablets in my live.

Maybe i'm just being a pansy!

How are u? Did u have a good weekend?

[quackers]

Great actually thanks, went out with DH Fri and had a party for my dd's 3rd yesterday. Just all this looming over me and I want to really move on. So I take it you still have no AF????? Gosh that's so long Jems, have you done a test just in case? Maybe it's worth seeing your Doc again about your periods if they are getting long. There might be something they can do for you. Just to make the cycle a bit shorter and less waiting time each month. I don't know, how do you feel today otherwise, any more pains??

[Jemma7]

Soz, Quacks, my fault - A/F arrived on Friday - that's what i meant about the pains - it's been horrible this month - the worst it's been since i was a kid.

[Egypt]

Oh dear Jemma, sounds bad. I hope you are ok. Are you late for your p?

Quackers, so sorry you feel so down. I didn't realise you felt this bad either. I feel terrible as I have been going on about myself so much, thinking that you were ok. I am fine thanks, just the same as yesterday. You are very lucky to have such a caring doc. Thats brilliant. Things will work out for you eventually, they always do, it's just coping in the meantime thats the tricky part. Remember we are all here for you and you must write anytime you need a chat. Lots of love xxx