Wishful thinking i know but........................................

[Jemma7]

Everyone will probably see this thread was started by me and think "Oh god, not her again".

You can tell it's getting towards that time of the month.

Anyway, on day 26 of cycle - have had a really dull tummy ache for last 2 days as if A/F is going to arrive - actually been going to the toilet to check it's that bad (Gross i know but i have to be graphic).
Woke up this morning feeling really sicky but thought i was just probably hungry as had not eaten last night - therefore went to the shop to buy a Mars Bar (Healthy, i know) and have now just thrown the whole mars bar back up again.

Is it just wishful thinking? Can't test yet as cycle's vary from 28 days to 38 days.

[quackers]

Thanks Bogwoppit, you;re lovelyxxxxxxx Fab news about Twiggy, that Clomid stuff sounds fab! I'm pleased for her. It's funny but if I know someone I'm really happy they're pg, but smugamums in the street I get really bitter, that's awful I know, I don't know what they've been throught o get there but can't help it!!!!

[Bogwoppit]

Quackers,
don't worry about it. I am OK with talking about it now.
hope the impartial thing goes OK for you.

[quackers]

Thanks Bogwoppit for sharing that with me, much appreciated. I didn't want to stir up old things for you though. I feel that talking to an impartial would be so beneficial. DH has been less communicative this time and it's been a burden in itself but if I move on he might too. xxxxxxxxx

[Bogwoppit]

Quackers,
I spoke to DH about it, but i found it hard to express all my feelings. It's complicated because m/c was on DS bday.
basically we had a party planned at his dad's. I was bleeding in the am so asked if he'd ring them to see if they'd come to ours (because EPAU had told me to restin bed)- then at least I'd be around even if I was on sofa (it was 1st bday).
He did ring but they refused so he took DS over there & left me behind.
I was in agony & v heavy bleeding, but was just left to get on with it cos of his selfish family.

This is why I found it so hard to talk to him cos I didn't want to sound like I was having a go at them. So I spoke to homeopath - it was 2hrs counselling almost.
I could tell her all that happened, how I felt etc with out feeling I might put my foot in it.
I felt that DH should have supported me & put his foot down.

I have since had a long & very tearful conversation with DH about it all (around anniversary time) & can accept that maybe I wasn't perhaps clear how I felt. But his family situation is very complicated & I didn't want to rock the boat.

anyway to cut a long (sorry everyone) story short it was easier to discuss some things with someone who has no connections to the whole event

DH has been great though. he doesn't believe in homeopathy "mumbo jumbo" but has supported me going etc.

hope tht helps

[quackers]

Gosh, there's so many threads now, don't know which is which!! Just posted on day11 and counting though if anyone fancies a look.
Bogwoppit, I'm really optimistic that you'll get sorted out this time. Easy to say but try and stay positive, they'll do a few tests and checks most likely and be easily able to rule out any prob if there is one that is and then rectify it. Although you know like me you can conceive!!!! Which is the good news. I live in a street where 2 ladies took between 1-2 years to conceive they now have 3 children each, one had a very late m/c at about 30 weeks and now has 2 dd's and then there's me, 1 dd and 2 m/c's and my friend who had a ds. So out of 5 women, only 1 has has a straightforaward 'baby' history. I suppose when u look at it like that, it;s easy to see why so many poepel have probs and think it's only them. Can I ask, you said earlier that rather than talk to DH about your m.c you talked to someone else, did u find it easier or just that he felt he couldn't help u in any way?? Mine says he doesn't feel in control so it;s hard to talk when he can see no resolution at the moment. Don't get me wrong if I need a hug or wanted to talk he will, but its not the sort of talk I want.
LOLxxxxx

[Bogwoppit]

cheers for the tips.
I have a list of my cycle lengths (very varied since m/c), plus can tell her all about bding over the last few months
so I shall take these plus a list of what we have tried - CM, OPK etc.
Gonna start temping & persona next week when AF arrives & I know AF willat some point cos we had a break this month cos it was getting us both a bit down.

[quackers]

Thanks HD, hope u ok!!! Good tip for bogwoppit!!!

[hewlettsdaughter]

And Bogwoppit - good luck with the new GP.

[hewlettsdaughter]

Quackers - sorry to hear about the bleeding. Hope things regulate for you soon.

[bunny2]

Bogwoppit, go armed with as much info as you can. One contributor here was sent away by her doc to keep a record of her bding for 6 months so, when I went to see me gp I went with a diary of (madeup) dates which showed I had been having sex at the correct time each month. Good luck.

[quackers]

Good luck Bogwoppit, hope she sorts out something for you, you must feel better knowing you;ve now done something about this!! Lolts of luck chuckxxxx

[Bogwoppit]

I have an appointment next weds with a diff GP. I hope she is a bit more sympathetic to my cause.
watch this space.....

[Egypt]

ooooooh thanks quackers. yes i see what you mean. fingers crossed. no i am not 18 days past ov. - i wish. am just 10 now. i dont really know much about persona, but its strange that its saying no when you have low lh. maybe it is taking a while to get used to your cycle. my friend used it and she said that you had lots of red days for the first month or so as it was being cautious, as it got to know your cycle. if you have just started using it it must be why. if not, i suspect its because of your m/c and your body is taking time to get back to its regular pattern.

[quackers]

She fell asleep on the sofa!! We're just coming out of the day sleep so shes ready for bed, I'd run the bath too! Ah well I'll have it! My LH would u believe is very slight , infact almost non existent , but persona is giving me red days still, I expect to get the O in a couple of days, I'm day 9 now - at least I think I am, not stopped bleeding for 5 weeks!

[quackers]

Computer just failed, my post didn't post , ah well, try again! here's a link for u though. Hope it helps and that I haven't got your hopes up too much! Have you had 18 days now of raised temps????
link

[Egypt]

Quackers you are an absolute ANGEL I am sending you a tonne of babydust right now girl! I've had temp rises for the last few cycles but prog test said'no'. never was v stable though like this one is. maybe you are right! xxxx

[quackers]

Egypt, I'm sorry but if u get a temp rise it means u have defo ov'd. I'm going to find a link to show u, but it;s the only way other than blood test that can tell u. LH can give you that phone thing, where the phone rings but noone is there etc... I know I'm a geek, I spend ages on websites looking all this up. You ov'd girl - beleive it!!!

[Egypt]

Ahh bless you, you are a sweetie. Yes i do CM, temp, the lot. Def got right day for ov but have also read that all these signs still dont mean that the egg was released. Someone explained it to me by using an analogy of telephone call. The signal went through and the phone rang but nobody picked it up. Hence, well you know, the hormones were there but the egg just didnt get released. hope its not in my case.

Hi bogwoppit, good luck x

[quackers]

Oh good one Bogwoppit, bout time you got some tlc and attention you deserve. Really emphasise your loss and how long you've been trying, if u still get no joy which I doubt witha good GP then maybe go private if you can afford it but I wouldn't have thought 2 GPs would ignore your stresses and worries in this way. What a git, call himself a Doctor.
Egyptm I see now I understand, well there;s one simple answer here and that is that you got your temp rise and it is still there, this is a much more ccurate way of both detecting ov AND pgcy, so the odds are with u. If u know what day you ov by temp, maybe u could use this method and cm if you have no joy this time??? Hope u ok today chuck, I was even thinking if u in bed last night - my ususal couple hours awake, sad eh!!!!

[Bogwoppit]

cheers guys. off to find another one tomorrow.
I wondered about endometriosis because since m/c AF has been very painful. did wonder if some tissue form m/c went the wrong way. & that can lead to probs ttc.

all this self diagnosing. I am deffo off to find a nice GP & ask some questions.

Hope all goes well for everyone else on this thread.

Wish I'd gone back to work cos I used to get sneaky free pregnancy tests. My only perk for working for the NHS

[bunny2]

Bogwoppit, change your gp. You can shop around until you find a sympathetic one. Quacks is right, he's a tit.

[Egypt]

Ahh, thanks quackers. by saying have i messed up my body, i mean by taking the clomid. she said that it doesnt help with pcos, but can elevate LH levels when they are already to high. i think i am being a bit over the top when i say messed up my body. sure it will all be fine. anyway, take care love, speak tomorrow.xx

[quackers]

Oh Bogwopit, your Doc is a tit, go and see another. 12 months of trying and you should be able to access help, not least because of your loss. I hate that attitude - knob!

[quackers]

I hate that attitude. As I have said before, you look at your dd/ds and know what you have lost, they haven't a clue. I am currently having a similar worry with the LH levels. My Doc has sent for hormone checks, have u asked for this - blood tests?? It could be nothing but Egypt will tell u all about LH levels and the poss of PCOS about 60% of m/c are caused by this and it certainly doesn't mean ( as you have proven ) that you can't have babies. Just a possibility as you said about your LH. Let me know what u think. It could also add to the length of time to conceive but again Egypt can help here as I'm no expert. xxxx
Egypt, really don't know what to say, you sound so frustrated and angry with this and I don't blame u. I know people aren't recommended to use sticks but if you are taking Clomid to regulate etc.. then if you have a surge and ov, temp rise then why not use them. I am no expert on this at all and rely on you for advice on this sort of thing!! However, how can u have messed up your body???? OPK's do not interfere at all. Have u done something else we don't know about?? I'm really sorry I'm not much help, but don't panick, you have symptoms too and I really don't think u need any stress right now. I'm thinking of, will go and have a bath and have a think for u. Will most probs post in am now though chuck. Take care and pls try not to panick. LOL and hugs xxxxxx

[Bogwoppit]

quackers. thanks for asking
13months ttc since m/c
I fell preg 1st time of trying = DS
then when he was 10mths fell preg 1st time of trying again = m/c

so it's a bit of a shock for it to be taking so long, but I am exploring many avenues.
have used OPKs but last month seemed to have a constant dark line.
just got persona ready to try & am booked for reflexology.
then I'll go & see docotr again. I went about 4 mths ago & he was most unhelpful. - "it'll happen, at least you have 1 child" you know the sort of comments.