Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

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A shiny new thread girls and hopefully we shall all get merrily up-duffed with sticky beans

Not really Terrys but if you're in the LP then the higher temp would seem to make more sense (and is at the more normal time).

Lady will keep my fingers crossed

ok, thanks Orchid I have inserted it.

FF experts my Early Pregnancy Signs are up to 48 points. Is this good!?!?

I'm not allowed to test until Thursday.

Dunno Terrys - I think I "invent" symptoms in any case! Why aren't you allowed?

What are you talking about LadyG none of my symptoms are made up at all.

Oh, not allowed to test until DH gets home on Thursday, but as I won't see him till I get home from work then I assume its safer to test on Friday morning (stronger wee??) AF may arrive before and save me some money though!

Friday would be 13dpo right? I'd wait til Friday morning I reckon as more likely to get a pos and you won't believe it if a neg otherwise.

yep, that's right LadyG - Friday morning it is, just hope FIL (who will be visiting) stays in bed so we can do it on our own. I don't want anyone to know either way!

Ladies [sob dramatically] my body is failing me. I am clearly being put out pasture.

DP is exhausted and I am frankly sick and tired of SWI. Poor man, we even did it last night after he'd had a wisdom tooth out.

Still no definite signs of ov, just bizarre temps. I did get a +ve OPK at 7pm last night and I've just done another one and got a +ve, so I've let DP know we'll have to do it again tonight.
I don't know what is going on at all - my cycles are being stretched out for no reason after having lovely 28 day cycles for months.

When can we stop SWI?!! Damn you body - feckin ovulate!!!!

Oh, here

Btw, this cycle my temps are definately higher overall than past cycles, even in the very early CDs. Any reason do you think?

The + on an opk usually means you will ov in the next 24/36 hours so I'd say you can stop in a couple of days - but you don't HAVE to do what I say . Your poor old DH - after a wisdom tooth out as well - what a trooper.

I reckon your temps will shoot up tomorrow, MrsA. On plus side you've given yourself every possible chancg with all that SWIing. Nice one, MrA. I reckon just one more for luck and then you can have a nice two week rest.

I sympathise as I also ov around 21/22 days. But sometimes day 14 to keep me on my toes.

Woke up with period pains

I get crampy in early pg though Terrys, hope is not the witch.

Hmmm, I have had cramps this week already but this feels like full on period pains. Nothing red yet - I do keep pulling my trousers down to check though .

IIRC the last 2 AF's I have had (first 2 since DS) I had pains after AF had started, not before. I hope its not RTOD (is that the right other one LadyG ) but will keep checking and hold onto slither of hope.

Temps are really messed up again today, woke at 4am and it was 36.30 - lowest one yet so would correlate with AF but then retook at 6.35am (after broken sleep from 4-6.35) and it was 36.74. I have no idea which one to use!

Anyhoo, enough about me! How is everyone else?

Depends if you are an optimist or a pessimist, Terry's!

I'm ok, temp quite low this morning so either a dip or going to have a stupid short LP again. Boobs are really sore but could well be an AF thing. Thought I felt sick yesterday but as am only 6dpo is clearly all in my head and I am a mentalist.

MrsA was expecting a temp spike from you this morning. But looks like you had a slow rise pattern last month so that's maybe just your pattern? Well done on last night! Maybe have a rest day today? And again tomorrow?

LadyG your dip isn't as big as last time, don't give up!

I'm an eternal optimist (but still worrying!).

terrys waking up with period pains has always been my biggest symptom for a bfp. Fingers crossed . Did you actually get up at 4 and move about or did you just wake up? If the latter I'd go with the second temp. I found that if my temp was going to drop, it did so even if I hoisted DS into bed with me at 4am and had him draped over my chest for 2 hours before taking temp at 6. But then I know other women's temps are more sensitive to movement in the middle of the night.

Acunpuncturist suggested that I might not see a temp rise this cycle so it may actually be worth giving it a break till I get my period - as the only reason I'd be doing it was so I'd know when to expect it. Might give it a break till I see some ewcm as I'm curious to find out as to whether I'll ovulate this cycle. DH and I are going to use condoms for now , so there shouldn't be any doubt. I am actually feeling better each day about taking a break. Especially reading all your posts worrying about each temp fluctuation...makes me realise how much pressure we're all under throughout the cycle. Waiting to ovulate, making sure we swi enough during fertile phase, then watching each temp rise and fall till the final few days at the end of the luteal phase.

God, it's bloody hard work! We deserve a flippin medal.

Still no AF despite checking 10 times already! Fingers crossed indeed. I didn't get up at 4am digi but I did move about for 5 minutes before deciding to take it (wasn't sure if I would sleep till usual time in case DS woke up, of course he didn't this time!) In FF I put in an average, wrote that in the notes and then discarded it! Just for tracking purposes! Will see if AF arrives today or what temp does tomorrow if it doesn't. I WANT TO TEST NOWWWWW.

digi I am glad you are feeling better about your decision, I think that means you have made the right one for you - this charting is stressful so maybe you should remove that from your life for now.

Hello all on the shiny, new charting thread [waving].

I have my fingers crossed for those on the 2ww. I also had little pains and twinges from 4wks to about 12wks. Good luck!

I had the norovirus (sickness & diarrhoea bug) on Sunday which has knocked me for six. In between being ill I kept crying thinking the baby would get the infection, but I've been reassured by DH, midwife and GP that it's just me who suffers. I hope so!

You do all deserve a medal xxx

NYD hope you feel better soon. I had flu for the one and only time when I was 8 weeks PG with DS and it was horrid. I also fell down the stairs as the flu made me dizzy . He is 2 today and a little monster!!

Happy Birthday to mini-T!

I had D&V (food poisoning) when pg with Mini-G at about 10 weeks or so and I felt like absolute shit. Get well soon, hon x

Thanks for lurking on my chart LadyGGG. Yeah, similar pattern to last cycle with a slow rise. CM and OPKs and just being in touch with my body means I reckon I ov yesterday. Did an OPK today and it was -ve, plus had a small amount of blood on the tissue after i peed - never ever had that before (thought for one moment i'd actually ov CD14 and it was AF!).

I'd just like to go back to previous cycles which had really clear temp shifts. Does anyone know if slow temp rises mean anything, good or bad?

And poor poor DP, He was so tired last night he fell asleep on the sofa at 9pm, then I dragged him upstairs at 10 and demanded a shag! TBH we were really not into it and only going through the motions - it felt really strange .
Definately taking a break now. If it takes us a year or more to conceive, I really have no idea how we'll keep this up!!

Oh and yes, happy birthday to mini T - hope you have a lovely day!

Hello all

Have found some signal so took the opportunity to update FF with my week of temps. Chart here

I am confused and a little nervous about it. Basically I have been half-arsed about charting this month and not paid much attention to CM (which I now regret!). Last week FF said I ov'd on CD22 based on the rise in temps afterwards and one watery CM note a day or two before hand.

Now it thinks CD30 (I deleted the earlier CM because I had CM for about a week and I can't remember when until when so one reading was a bit misleading). The only one I've put in now is the spotting/goo day because I am certain about when that was.

Thing is, thinking CD22 was ov day we got pissed off with condoms and SFF this week... now it looks like it was inadvertently in my fertile bit .

I am now panicking on two counts:

1. CD22 was right in which case my chart looks possibly triphasic, and I would be 11 DPO today (have 10 day LP) and no period...
2. CD30 was right in which case we had sex right when it mattered...

I wanted a month off! The MW said it would be sensible too and my thyroid needs sorting out. I feel most irresponsible. Also been on the sauce . Well it is a holiday.

(I now understand why this is a WTF cycle!)