Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

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A shiny new thread girls and hopefully we shall all get merrily up-duffed with sticky beans

spilt deep breath! You will cope with everything but don't put pressure on yourself to do it, just take one day and task at a time. If anyone gives you s**t then either tell them off or send them round our way! Maybe phone the church and explain that you can't commit to this stuff ATM and will let them know when you can?

FWIW - I think you are doing fab!

Quick question - if your chart is going to go triphasic, when would this happen??

Varies but prob around 10-14 days ish? Mine shot up on day 14 after falling massively the previous day. What dpo are you? Are you seeing good signs?

I think I'm ovulating today so bit behind you!

Only 5dpo LadyG but have been reading about triphasic patterns so just wondering when it might happen. Also had a massive temp spike today which sparked my interest.

Here is my chart

Mind you, DS was a monster last night so was up at 2am and 3am but took temp at usual time of 6.30am so it was after 3 hours sleep.

spilt When I had my MMC and EPRC in Feb I found I lost a lot of confidence at work. I didn't go through anything like as traumatic as you did but I was off for a couple of weeks in total and found that when I returned to work I was just too emotional to answer the phone.

I was meant to be on a hotline but had to keep taking myself off the phone cos I was so scared of taking a call. I think my emotions were just so near to the surface that i feared one stroppy customer would tip me over the edge.

I even told my supervisor that she'd have to sack me cos I just couldn't take calls. She was very good and said I could do other stuff for a while. People kept saying to me, "But you're such a confident person!" And I am, usually, but I just can't explain why I was knocked for 6 by the whole experience.

After my early spontanious loss 3 months later I was ok about going back to work, so i can't explain why I was so shocked the first time. All I'm trying to say, in a very waffly-way is - It is normal to feel like you do after such an upsetting experience. Take it easy and don't expect to just spring back and be like you were before, it all takes time. I don't think i felt 'right' for quite a while. Thinking of you and sending my love. XX

Hi Terrys. I think you're still establishing the bi-phasic bit. If you look on your chart overlay you're at about same level as last month. I think the triphasic thing happens after implantation when the pregnancy becomes properly established and starts churning out hormones so you're a bit early yet.

If it continues to go up and gets to another level of higher in a few days then I reckon you're in business. Is something to look out for!

Spilt take a bit more time and when you do go back, be gentle to yourself for a bit. Talk to your boss and ease back in gently, maybe half/short days for a while. It does get easier, I couldn't concebtrate on anything at all for a couple of weeks, just showed up and went through the motions but been a lot better the last couple of weeks.

Terrys I agree with Lady, too early for triphasic yet, but looks nice so far.

Thank you all for your support (I feel like I am thanking everyone everywhere on MN at the moment, but everyone is being so nice!). Whilst vile this morning I suppose it's served the useful purpose of showing me that I'm not taking the mick by staying off work again. I have very severe work related guilt, always have done.

I've emailed my boss my sick note and explained a bit why I'm not able to work yet and that I've been referred for counselling. Hopefully that will help give him an idea of what's going on and make it easier to talk about how to get me back to work in due course.

DH will be home in about 10 mins and can defend me from the Scary Phone. I even went out to hide from it. And then when I got in I hid the phones in the wardrobe in case they rang

Can anyone remember (those who own TCOYF probably) if very slight spotting mid cycle is a sign of ovulation? I have lots of fairly clear goo but slightly streaked with red today.

I think it can be Spilt. There are other things it could be so not to be solely relied on - but sounds like you might be cranking up again. Or could just be random hormonal fluctuations on your WTF cycle causing it. How exciting! Watch your temps. Remind me (brain like a goldfish) are you having time off or trying again?

Time off this month Lady but I'm keeping an eye on things. Hopefully will be ttc next month but I also want to find out a bit more about this possible thyroid thing first too.

Fingers crossed for your temp rise tomorrow morning

spilt ((((((((((hugs))))))))) think counselling is a really good idea. I'm going for it, if only because I'm concerned at how quickly I seem to have 'bounced back' from the mc. Am fully expecting to have another meltdown at some point in the future.

FWIW I had mid-cycle spotting with my last WTF cycle. I thought it was ovulation, but it was a little breakthrough bleed just before ovulation. Egg came about 5 days later.

Bleeding seems to be tailing off already. Only a bit of brown spotting today. Will go for a run tomorrow to see if it shifts any more.

Next Friday I'm going to hang out with mums I made friends with during my maternity leave. Two of them have had their second, one of them is about to pop anyday now. I don't want to not see them, because one day I will hopefully have my second and we'll have things in common again...and DS loves playing with other children's toys.

digi I know what you mean about 'bouncing' back. I feel ok today and most days but then I feel very shakey and very close to tears other days...

split even though you are not trying this month it is good that your body is getting back into a pattern for you :)

I saw my Dr today - I had 15 yes 15 bottles of blood taken and a urine sample sent off. He also sent of a request for a scan of my uterus. After that he will see what the results are before referring me if needs be.I asked about aspirin - but he said to wait until my bloods come back.

In other news - I feel like I have been gearing up to ovulate but then nothing. If I fall back into my normal cycle I should ovulate tomorrow, but had no smiley face today, so will see what happens. I can't make it happen so there is no point in worrying about it. DP comes back tomorrow so I may not be around over the weekend - I may be busy

Hi ladies, I couldn't agree more with the 'going through the motions' at work comment. I've got so much to catch up on (as the boss keeps pointing out) but I cannot summon the strength to care. It's awful.

Still got stretchy cm so am hoping I'm gearing up to ov but not counting on it so just going to keep DTD until the RTD appears :-)

Ga! Posted too soon,

spilt I'm sorry you're having such a rough time of it but definately think you're doing the right thing re work. There's no shame in taking as much time as you need.

mouse xx

Toni says that mid cycle spotting/bleeding is a sign of ovulation and also a sign that you are super fertile. So it could be ovulation spilt, but I totally understand your need to take a month off. I didn't TTC the first month after my EPRC but I got straight back into it the month after my natural MC - I think it's best to just do what feels best.

battery I hope the smiley face arrives at the same time as your hubbie .

Temps are up, yay! Hope they find the egg, there must be plenty up there . I am knackered, as DP said last night just after achieving the necessary... "This is a young man's game"!

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just popping in quickly before I go off to beautify myself to go and pick up DP - feeling a bit disheartened- no smiley face, if I don't hatch an egg this weekend - we are not seeing each other till the 19th (sigh).

lady - liking the look of your chart - swim little fellas - swim!!

What's your mucus doing, battery? Don't forget the sperm can live for up to 5 days in fertile quality mucus so you might still catch it. Here's hoping

Well done Lady and good luck Battery

We are off on holiday this morning for a week and may or may not have internet, so if I disappear its because I am in rural Devon with no signal!

Take care all, catch up soon x

ladyggg looking good!

spilt have a lovely holiday!

battery happy swi-ing!

morning ladies. i am officially pissed off.

If we assume that my LP is fairly consistent, then for years I have had cycles of around 28-31 days meaing I ov around day 18, 19, 20 or 21. Even before charting, I always notice EWCM in the run up to ov.

Despite only charting since June, DP and I have only really properly SWI for the past 2 cycles and what happens? As soon as we start to try my cycles go all over the place.
Last month I ov day 23 and this month I have no idea what is going on!
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Today is CD19. If you recall, i had small amounts of EWCM CD 15 and 16 and the temps went up CD17. DP away last night so i managed to persuade him to SWI twice on CD 17!!
But CD 18 and 19, temps are low again and CM is completely dry - normally if i were to ov on CD 20, 21 or 22 I would have lots of EWCM by now.

I know you'll all say anomalies happen but this is the first time it's happened in the past 3 years and it coincides with SWI! WTF!?
Do you think it could be pschycological can't spell, affected by my mind?
Thing is, nothing has happened recently, all is good. Is my body trying to tell me something?

Sorry to winge and moan but if I hadn't been as regular as clockwork in the past years i wouldn't be so frustrated!

spilt I hope the holiday is restful and a chance to heal a bit.

battery I agree with lady - get the troops up there anyway (I know you will) you could get a pos on an OPK just after you've done the deed and then those boys will still be around for the egg. It must be extra stressful when you don't have your sperm supply on tap - IYSWIM.

MrsA I can only think of the old expression - a watched kettle never boils. Meaning that when you weren't interested in whether the kettle was boiling at all it just got on with it. Now suddenly you are very intent on the whole thing and your body has gone a bit haywire. That's only based on what you've said on here, I haven't looked at your chart cos I am not sure how to read those charts (I'm a paper and pencil girl!)

Hmm - EWCM just returned. DP returning tonight. Hoping this bodes well. I suppose I could ov CD22 and still have a 32 day cycle.

my god *LadyG when do you have time for all that SWI-ing!?? I am impressed!! Charts looking up - we can be waiting together now.

I am 6dpo and having a variety of imagined symptoms - slight pain in lower right abdomen, back pain and tired (walking round town with 2yo DS and no pram may account for that one though!)

And DH is away from Sunday - Thursday evening so he said I have to wait for him to come back before I can test [grr] so that makes Friday, oh well, at least if AF comes before then I won't waste a test!!

PS - my last cycle was 26 days and FF had my AF due date as November 10th until I OV-ed and it changed it to Nov 14th which would be CD30, why would it do that?? (OV-ed on CD15)

Terrys when needs must.....DP and i managed it twice on Wednesday but each time just took a few mins as we thought I'd ov, so we used the preseed lube and he just went for it.

Just to make it clear, i much prefer relaxing making love, but when the dates are key, love making can wait for another time

TMI - DP on way home with DD. Time to go and put the stockings on