Charter's Anonymous: Volume 3, here's to better luck this time for us all!

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A shiny new thread girls and hopefully we shall all get merrily up-duffed with sticky beans

God just seen how my post reads!!!!

What I mean is, DD will be in bed by 7 and if DP sees stocking feet peeping under my jeans, it gets him in the mood for later and I haven't seen him since yesterday morning.

Same here Terrys. Get MiniG to bed, haul DP upstairs in window before MiniG wakes up (he's a crap sleeper). We're both on a mission this month, first proper cycle since the mc so both just want me to be pregnant again.

I think DS is trying to remind me what its like to have a newborn , 1 hour to get to sleep then up at 1.30am, 4am and 6am. He keeps screaming and getting out of bed. No idea what to do. Any ideas ladies??

Temps up again this morning - and have some slight cramping v far down, sound promising?

Hi,

Looking for some advice from all you charters!

Quite new to charting.

This month FF decided i ovd on CD12 which tied in nicely with some CM. My temps have went steadily up from then. Had suspicious sore boobs for a week (never had this in my life!) now CD21 as of today.
Was pleased BD seemed to tie in nicely with CD12.

Then to my disgust FF has changed my ov day to day 16. Nothing matches this no CM, no BD (boo!) and my temps were already up!

Does FF change your coverline often? Im keeping BDing as Im concerned this will happen again.

Any opinions?

Welcome sufferingbabyfever Yes, FF does like to play games with you and move the ov day frequently - well it does with me anyway.
What day are you on now?
Can you post a link to your chart, as there are some very clued up folk on here who can give you their opinion :)

That would be great to get some opinions. Although I'm not sure how I actually do that?

Do I just post the web address of my chart? Im not sure?

Just above your chart click on homepage set up and towards the top of this page you should have a web address something like this:

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2de1f3

Aha! Now I get it. Note there are a few temps I had to discard due to my inability to wake up at the same time!

www.fertilityfriend.com/home/318094

Have a look and see if you would agree with CD16 which it changed it too. Or was it 12. Im hopefully clinging to 12!

Hi there. I think you are discarding too many temperatures to be sure of the interpretation. You shouldn't discard them unless you've been sick or something - as long as you've had three hours sleep before. If they are way off i.e if you woke up 2 or 3 hours later than normal there is a temp adjuster on there that you could use but use with caution. FF is unsure as you're not feeding it enough data!

It will also be unsure as you have reported EWCM after ovulation.

I think you should put the discarded temps back in (with adjustment if necessary) as you may have spiked and then had a fallback rise pattern, potentially ovving on cd12? But that isn't quite consitent with your cm pattern - day 15 wet could be semen residue though. Not sure about day 18 although you can have a second surge of oestrogen in Luteal phase that may account for that.

Hope that helps, am sure others will ahve more thoughts!

I put the temps back in. Without adjustment as Im not really sure how to do that.

Now it has changed the Ov day to day 13. But I now have a weird below the coverline area in the chart post ovulation!

Im sure I just need more practise at charting to get it right in future!

Also does anyone know of anything anywhere that can help you decide what type of CM you have? I find this quite difficult and it worries me that maybe I don't get enough EWCM. But then potentially I've had it but ont realise?

I still think 12 or 13 looking at it given temps before day 12 may be aberrant (I guess these were weekend lie ins?). Were you also drinking quite a bit night before as this can affect your temps?

To adjust temps go to data/temperature Correcter. Would just do it for those weekend wake ups to see what it does.

This is good link for defining your mucus type. I have to check internally for it by the way as not much seems to come out. You're looking out for stuff that is stretchy, hopefully clear but think stretchiness is the key.

I think it's dead funny that you all share charts with each other and by doing so you tell each other when you shagged!! Ha Ha.

We do things on here we'd never do in real life. I can't imagine wandering into the playgound at school pick up time and saying, "We'll we shagged this morning cos I had stretchy cervical mucus."

At least when I charted it was on a piece of paper by the side of the bed so you lot couldn't see what a nympho I was - (that's a joke by the way!)

sufferingbabyfever I was reading on another thread that a glass of grapefruit juice a day will help you to make the good kind of mucus. The juice can't be from concentrate apparently (but i don't see why).

Might be worth a go. I was gonna buy some fresh grapefruit juice but I forgot and then got plenty of EWCM anyway. I am lucky that I do seem to get lots of that (something I never thought I'd be so pleased about ).

Basically just get some on your finger and thumb and then open them up - if the fluid stretched from one to the other without breaking - it's the good kind. HTH.

XX

ladygg thanks for the advice. Changed those temps. And it moved it to day 16. Not so good for me. Oh well better luck next month I guess!

hippy I know what you mean I never thought I would ever be discussing the consistency of my CM with anyone. Actually I never thought I'd be paying so much attention to it!

Might give the grapefruit juice a go. But I personally hate it. Might hold my nose and force it though!

Yep - I'm on the grapefruit juice this month as my CM is never anything to get excited about.

How long do you reckon after SWI can you safely assume that it's CM you are finding and not left over semen?

I think it would have to be a good 24 hours or so. We had a really gross conversation on the over 40's thread about how to tell the difference. To cut a long story short it came down to smelling the tissue (sperm has a more pungent smell). Oh God I can't believe I'm bringing that conversation up again. We we're all totally embarrassed on the other thread .

There is also a trick you can do with a glass of water. One floats and one sinks but I don't know which is which - you could google.

Lastly, sperm is a bit more of a creamy colour whereas EWCM is clear. Having said all that, they are difficult to tell apart. Basically I start SWI once i get EW and then just keep going 'til i think i've Ov'd.

good luck.

Suffering - can you also adjust the temps on day 7/8 as that is effecting where your coverline should be and it may move it back again if you change those?

Also I conceived last time from a SWI two days before ov so all is not lost! Those sperm can hang around for a while!

I take Evening Primrose oil for EWCM in lead up to ovulation (not after though as can interfere with implantation)

Ifat not sure. I'm quite poor at identifying cm when semen is around. End up putting down as "Watery" and then putting in my notes that I suspect was a bit spermy. You can tell proper egg white as it clumps togeteher in a glass of water and you can still fish it out and stretch it whereas semen will dissipate.

ooooh, I'm not that obsessed that I'll start sniffing tissues

Told you we were all grossed out when we discussed it. The things we talk about on MN!!!

In my defence I've gotta say that it started cos someone thought her DH might be faking cos he was tired and he wanted to stop. I said wouldn't there be evidence if he hadn't achieved his goal and that's how we got into the difference between EW and sperm.

See, even old bird can have quite cheeky conversations!

Good sweet lord above -I miss one day and come back to a tissue sniffing conversation

Actually, it is good timing..... I had a look when I went to the loo today and thought - now is that me or DH?

Well I don't think ovulation is happening any time soon - I got some creamy cm for about a day then nothing. Anyhow - I had my HCG done on thursday and it was 12 (should be below 5) so I think maybe another 2 weeks - which may work out ok as I will be with DP by then too.... god I am exhausted making all these plans!!

It is lovely having dp home- I am busy doing the domestic godess thing so had better dash - hope everyone is ok xxxxx

Still no definite temp rise here, sigh, so SWI continues. Shouldn't complain really but it becomes so clinical after a bit.

But, got loads of EWCM today, so expect to ov in next few days. Still a longer pre ov phase than usual.

And I find it quite easy to tell the difference between EWCM and sperm - my EWCM is very thick and not very clear but very stretchy. Sperm is much thinner and does smell a bit stonger!

Any thoughts on my chart here?

Quick qn - what is the cough medicine that encourages EWCM? It begins with R I tink?

Think it's robuitissin. But the active ingredient is guafeni-something which can be found in uk cough medicine. But surely with an abundance of ewcm you don't need it mrsa!

Started charting today as I thought bleeding had stopped. But no am still spotting quite a bit so prob a long long way off from egg appearing.

Also read the book I ordered which, as a recurrent miscarrier, has made me feel quite depressed. Am now wondering if I should wait for the tests as being armed with knowledge (even if that is knowing there are no answers) is supposed to help me deal with my next pregnancy. Bugger.

Had it all worked out in my head. Now I'm wondering if I'm being stupidly impatient.