Emmy's weebles are taking over mermaid's greenhouse!

[barbie1]

....therefore she cant throw us out!

Long may the support continue x

Hee hee hee mermaid you are stuck with us all , thanks for that barbie you can be the highlighted one now

Well done barbie [hgrin]

MAJOR TMI ALERT.......CJay has just called me to the bathroom to me show me his 'carrot poo', he's absolutly made up to have produced this. Oh the joys of living with a CJay [hgrin]

Like it Barbie Agree with Vjay, you are doing a great job. Things will get easier with your DD, she is just so incredibly bright and sounds like she wants to be on the go all the time. I think with the feeding, iirc, initially I did BF first and then solids, but once they were well established I swapped it around, so by about 8 months I was definitely doing food first, though it was 3 years ago now and i seem to have forgotten so much of it

The book sounds good btw, think I will put it on my Christmas wish list.

I am meant to be doing so much this afternoon, but just can't be bothered. But should at least pretend...

Back later

Vjay, sounds like something my DS would do, sweetcorn poo is also a favourite

[hgrin] qa aren't boys great!!!

Hello - got back off the M25 and have to check in on BQ

Thanks for the comments everyone - just vaguely thinking about closing the door, getting used to being a childless couple and enjoying life rather than wasting it fretting about something that may never happen - may go back on the pill soon but am not at that point yet.

Sleep filled thoughts to babies that won't let their mummies rest :)

Nearly gym o'clock !

vjay [hgrin] at cjay [hgrin]

QA we get shouts from DS1 that he's done a "monster poo" and he really isn't wrong. I have no idea where he stores it.

yipppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bq I am so pleased you both

ha at the title also.

Have spent the afternoon walking through fields covered in sheeps poo as it goes. Why are boys so fixated with poo.

barbie It is good that you know you are bickering, annoyed at the 'we' and know you need that massage etc. You have/are doing really really well without your support network around you. Can someone dolly sit or should that be dolly chase for the evening so you could go out, eat food and all that stuff.
My friends dp booked her into the local b&b for the night and sent her off for an uninterupted nights sleep while he looked after a very awake 11m old. I thought that was very funny and sweet.

vjay that is so lovely that mazy and cjay are a team. And also love the image of our newest gymnast getting on the sofa and reading

louey hope you are ok today too.

better go have to timber to jump over, luckily my mum gave me a caserole and a cake and a cheesecake so it's not pizza tonight

bq [hgrin] [hgrin] so happy and relieved, this bean is here to stay [hgrin]

hugs for mermaid and jools for being brave and lovely ladies

and omg i was crying laughing at the poo comments!

Just marking my spot and claiming beanbag in the corner [hsmile] We've had two power cuts tonight, second whilst trying to put tesco.com order away!

BQ - utterly delighted and relieved for you honey, we will continue to squeeze those hands of yours until next July

Ah, boys and poos. DS1 takes his LEGO catalogue for his - ahem - sit down session, such a bloke

louey - also had a lump reading your FB statement about Isaac, go IJ . How's the nausea?

barbie, you deserve a medal and I mean that sincerely for coping with D. You don't have anything to compare it to but most new Mum's have their own Mum//MIL, friends and familiar surroundings to take comfort in when they are trying to bring up a newborn and you have had none of the aboe PLUS a very spirited baby PLU a hot country with all that that entails. You have coped amazingly well but you MUST try and take some time for you. Mermaid;s suggestion was good re: checking into B&B for uninterupted sleep..

My practical solution (copyright Louey) is thus. I can only go on my experience with both boys but - and I have said this before so excuse me hammering on - things got so so much easier once I stoppd breast feeding. DH could feed them, get up during the night, they were more settled, slept longer, the whole nine yars.. Even if your DH tries to settle D because you're still BF she can smell your milk which is an instant comfort to her (like a teddy is to an older child). Having spoken to my friends over the years they all agreed that once BF stopped their babies were more accomodating to others settling them. You can't be super woman and D is eight months old, eight months of gold top mummy milk. Is it perhaps time you took your body back for you? Every one of the Mums I met through the BF support group, who have now graduated to our playgroup agree that things got easier and more enjoyable once they had made the switch.

There that's my tuppence worth HTH x

Been tryin to post for a couple of hrs but had a restless biscuit! Well done Barbie on the new thread, echo all the wise words spoken by our wise women!

Posting on behalf of Lovelylbm who asked me to say huge congrats to Bq!

Poor Lbm tx me to find out how bq got on from hospital, as our darling cyber niece baby belle has pneumonia.. Thankfully mummy says she is recovering well & will hopefully be home within the next couple of days.. Sounds very brave, (both of them) but jeez i went cold reading her tx having dd the same age, what a worry & iv such admiration for lbm being so strong & still thinking of others.. Lets all send prayers & get well wishes to our little cyber niece, bless her cos she is such a dainty lil thing... All being well they have a weekend at centre parcs planned so she wont be posting for a bit but wanted me to update you all.. X

Yay to BQ So pleased for you [hgrin] [hgrin]

LBM poor baby J. Hope she is better soon. Thanks for the update 4ever

Blue Is xmas playing on your mind, hence the attempts at Xmas smileys? [hsmile]

Barbie Clearly things did not go so well here last night. H slept for 7 hours (miraculous compared to 2 weeks ago) up for 1.5 hours, slept for 1.5 hours and here we are [hhmm]I can see two teeth trying to make their way through the top gum though so I am clutching at using that excuse. FWIW I think Blue has a point but I know I'm scared to stop feeding as it can often be the only thing that settles H and it seems to scary to give that up. I sway constantly between wanting to stop and enjoying that before bed feed.
re sleep I've just been settling her as normal (bf at night, pram and fan ) at naps but making sure she is still quite awake before into cot at night and not shoogling the pram so much. Small, but important, steps.

Loved the poo talk but M likes to show hers too or at least shout through while you're at dinner about size and consistency {yuk!) so it's not just a boy thing!

Baby Kitty is doing well. She's now 7lbs 6oz. MLS is managing to express and Kitty is taking the bottle well. She is not that keen on naps though (Oh no, not another one!)

Poor little baby J, LBM really hope she gets better soon and you are all back home (and then get to go to center parcs). Must be very scary for you all. 4ever thanks for update x

neeko I'm sorry you were up so early but she is getting there. If you think back to where you were it is a massive improvement. Two teeth coming through is always going to upset her sleep and if she's had a good chunk of sleep already then the pain may be stopping her getting back to sleep.

MLS yay for Kitty taking bottle. Boo for lack of naps. I wonder if its a boy/girl thing? Most of the people I know with girls find them much harder to get them to sleep (and stay asleep) and there are lots of girls on here. I know Iggy is having a hard time too with piglet. My 2 were always good sleepers apart from during teething and even then, they weren't really that bad. Am that your were stalking my chart when you had a newborn to cope with

Barbie I never did get to respond to your post with some practical advice. Blue and mermaid have done a very good job I think. Was going to suggest a night out, and also staying away for an evening/night without DH to get him to have to cope on his own. Also Dolly may realise that you are not there and give in. Re the weaning, at this stage I would also give solids first and then bf. You definitely need some me time and it is difficult when you are tied to bf'ing. Am I right in thinking she won't take a bottle?

blue [hgrin] at DS1 and lego catalogue [hgrin]. My DS1's mag of choice would be What Car!!

mermaid timber to jump over??? Is that another cornish phrase?? Hope your kitchen gets done by xmas, otherwise your DH is not going to be popular...

jules loving gym o'clock. How is the diet going?

BQ still smiling for you

Waves to 4ever and Moon

Life is a rollercoaster isn't it. Have been feeling about my little sis. Can't remember if I've said on here but she has been ttc for the last 18 months. Came off the pill, no periods. Got referred and did initial tests/scans and gave her something to bring on AF which it did but then they stopped again. Then she was waiting ages for an appt (postcode lottery sucks) and it was cancelled. Finally got seen a couple of weeks ago and they wanted to repeat some of the tests. Long and short of it is that she has got v v low ovarian reserve, almost at the bottom of the range. Her only chance is IVF and they've said that she needs to do it asap. NHS waiting list in her area is 2 yrs. Fortunately my lovely parents have offered to pay so she is going private and we've been investigating clinics. 4ever am I right in thinking you went down that route to get pg with summer?? Apologies if I'm wrong, it was before my time but I saw on your profile you had the immune treatment.

It so unfair. She's only 33 and healthy, fit etc. Just shows you can't tell how long you have got. She should have a good chance at IVF if they can get some eggs out of her. I would be prepared to donate my eggs to her if it came to it. Haven't told her that, or DH but its been playing on my mind. She doesn't know I'm pg as we haven't told anyone and I'm dreading telling her this time, even though she knows I'm ttc.

Oh lbm I hope babybelle is ok, what a scary time for you all [hsad]

4ever thanks for keeping us updated [hsmile]

blue I did snort at DS1 taking the lego catalogue into the bathroom with him, Cjay hasn't realised he can do that yet [hgrin], also echo what neeko said, is Christmas on your mind [hwink]??[hgrin]
Oh and I agree with what you said about babies and stopping feeding, Ajay was a lot more settled during the day once he went onto the bottle.

louey your poor sis, life is so bloody infair sometimes [hsad], and I imagine you are dreading telling her about your pg. I had my step sis and sil announce their pg's, one of them on the day I started to miscarry the second time, there is no easy way to do it unfortunatly, you are well aware of her situation, and I'm sure she'll be happy for you. What was your fb status, if you don't mind me asking, I am a non facebooker [hgrin]

mermaid what a lovely mum you've got and what a lovely feast you had last night, yummy yum [hsmile]

Right off to the hospital in a mo with Cjay, another appointment but this time for his teeth!!!

vjay sorry missed you off my last post. Meant to say I can't believe ajay is climbing already!!! Hope the hospital appointment goes ok, we still haven't got to the dentist. With all the other appts we have, that seems to have been forgotten. My FB comment - yesterday morning was trying to get the boys out of the house to the childminders and Luke was crying loudly because he was hungry (his own bloody fault as he refused to eat the previous day, stubborn bugger that he is). Isaac walked up to him, looking all concerned and said "what's the matter Luke?" You will know from cjay that the fact that he can recognise emotions and emphathise is a big thing that lots of ASD kids can't do. Plus its practically the longest spontaneous sentence he's ever said. He can say longer sentences but they are usually things he has parrotted back from tv/games.

Am having a very hard time trying to concentrate on any work today...

Poppin in quick, Lou your poor sis, we all empathise here.. Such a hard difficult situation, so lovely of you to consider egg donation.. In answer to your question, we luckily didnt have any problem conceiving, i had 4 pregnancies in very quick succession, just couldnt keep them, turns out (after tons of tests & then going private) that my bodys immune system was rejecting my dh cells, hence the lymphocyte immunotherapy treatment with my 5th and thankfully succesful pregnancy with Summer! Im really sorry i cant offer any words of wisdom, we have a few friends going through it with ivf too, such a rollercoaster..

Thanks 4ever just wondered cos' I have a friend who had 5 mcs at around 5 wks and she also had the immunotherapy treatment (she also had clotting probs as well). She did it through ARGC and had IVF to have her first DD. Not sure now of the reasons, but thought you might have had the same thing done. (BTW she went on to have her 2nd naturally).

louey [hsmile] at Isaac regocnising his brothers distress. Cjay can recognise the obvious like when someone is crying, but he finds it hard with sarcasm and other harder to read emotions.

The dentist went well, Cjay has to have 2 appointments to get 2 teeth filled, the enamel hasn't formed properly. He will have gas and air to make him drowsy and the lovely dentist gave him the mask thing to take home to practise on. He had lots of questions and they answered them all for him, so so far so good. The appointments aren't untl December, so lots of time to drip feed him information in preperation [hsmile]

lbm sorry to hear that little mouse is unwell , i hope by now that you are all home enjoying cuddles and the scary hospital trip is long forgotten. Thanks 4ever for updating...

I dont seem to have everybody's contact number, so if anyone wants to add there name to my pathetic contacts can you please pm me your mobile number, i feel a little left out, i promise i wont wake you up and forget you are 3 hours behind

louey i really feel for you, it must be so very bittersweet being pregnant while your sis is struggling. The friend who im meeting tomorrow has a 4 week old after undergoing IVF, i can ask her some questions if you have any

neeko 7.5 hours is very impressive! We are down to just 14 mins of crying before she puts herself to sleep (gone from 47 mins to 14 in 3 days) its hard to listen too so i just keep reading the highlighted bit of the book that says we are being better parents for teaching her to sleep. Im also keeping her in her cot until 6am. The thing that is getting me is she takes her pj bottoms off when she cries and removes the blanket, so last night i had to wait til she was asleep to go and cover her up. This woke her up, 3 times so today we have bought her sleep suits and put a vest on her so at least she can be warm without blankets. We will get there im sure.

blue wise words as always. Im at that stage where if i could get Dolly to take a bottle im more than happy to give up the bfeeding. As much as i would like to continue the pro's for formula outway the con's. I just cant get her to take the bootle Thats a whole other battle, maybe once sleeping is sorted or when my mum comes over in 2 weeks.....

mermaid my mum has offered to look after Dolly for us, i will let her take her out during the day so i can relax by the pool and get a healthy look about me, i might even have a doze she is here for 2 weeks so if the sleep keeps improving and we win the battle of the bottle or mange to night wean, dh and i will go out and relax. Im looking forward to it.

Feeling really positive today, its like a lightbulb moment. The book is amazing, so much makes sense...her eating is improving and the snaking on me has stopped, she even is chilled enough to sit in her pram! We have been enjoying the cooler weather and managed a nice walk after her swimming lesson.

Thanks for yesterday, just having someone to listen to me helps heaps.

oh and im glad nobody has realized the mistake in the thread title

Much love to you all (and your pooing kids! )

snacking on me not snaking!!!

barbie glad that your mum is coming out, that will give you a huge break. Please take advantage as much as you can. Dolly is getting there with her sleep and you are doing wonderfully well. I don't have anyone's mobile numbers either. Will pm you mine in a minute x

vjay your dentist sounds fab. I'm sure cjay will be fine at the appointment to have the fillings done.

I have done next to no work today but have discovered that decaf coffee is just PANTS. Trying to limit myself to one good cup of proper coffee and had bought some ground decaf (ie not instant stuff) but it is still yuck yuck yuck. Oh and I've been browsing through the top 100 names for 2009..nothing like getting ahead of yourself

Hooray finally getting a chance to post- dh at supermarket & baby asleep.

Firstly to our good news ladies- louey just so so happy for you, and bq- just indescribably relieved. Must have been such an emotional moment for you. This has really been a long time coming- you were on this thread before I was..I'm just so happy the first hurdle is past. Onwards and upwards :)

4ever the pics are gorgeous; she's so beautiful! Love your shoes too! I've tried on a dress for J's baptism and need dh's opinion this weekend! Well done on the weight loss. 10st is my aim too. Also pleased weaning has started well. J is eating at lightening speed now!

louey so glad your hol was good; sounds v relaxing. :( about your sis, but at least you will know to be sensitive to her. The nights are improving here thanks for asking :)

jools massive hugs to you for big decisions but I'm with the others that it ain't over yet!

qa hugs for your edd. The op will come round quickly I'm sure. Hope you're all ready for ttc battle!

lbm poor poor mouse (loving that nn!) really hope she's ok. Sorry to make you with weight loss but if it makes you feel any better I still have 13lbs to target weight, and it's torture not eating sweet things as I used to just eat so many

Neeko so glad the book is helping with your diva thanks for the update on mls so glad she's doing ok but I too had a chuckle at her still having time to stalk louey

mermaid sounds like a very wise doc not letting you have too much all at once..(this isn't the same one who gave the wrong ad prescription though is it ) hope you are ok behind all that timber

sabs loved the story of hope about your sil. So sorry you're finding work and slimming tough...I'm sure it will start to get easier with time and getting into better routine. Hugs to you.

barbie so sorry you've been so down :( I too completely echo the girls about you time. So glad your Mum is coming out soon for that. Loved the Barbie moment oh and cheeky Vjay did tell us to come to 'Emmy's' on the old thread

Vjay soooo melting at the image of Ajay just sitting with his book

Well, my news is that my bf is in labour!!! I'm indescribably excitedscaredhappyworriedoverwhelmed! Have been gettingdates from her dh as they've been in hospital all day. Latest was that she was 4cms and off to delivery at 5pm so I'm just on tenterhooks now!! Eeeek. Hospital is just round corner from us so I'm hoping I can visit tomorrow if she's ok! I have SIL staying at the mo too so good timing for her to look after babycake.

Today is mine and dh's wedding anniversary, AND the feast of St Jude so what a great day for baby to be born :) (if it arrives before midnight obviously...)

Oop, dh back...must dash. Loads of love to you wonderful ladies xxx

Ha ha cupcake I wondered if anyone else had noticed [hwink], how's your bf doing?

barbie you have my number and I've saved you into my mobile, I just hope no-one nicks it as there are some very strange names in there [hgrin], there's a blue a barbie a neeko a cupcake a mermaid to name but a few [hgrin]

Where have all the SSSSSSSSSSSS's gone [hgrin]

LBM - hope babybelle is on the mend, what a worrying awful time you must have had xx

Back tomorrow sneakily at work...

cupcake - how exciting!!!!