Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 7)

[MamaPower]

A comfy little corner for those who need company in the post mc ttc journey!

To POAS or not to POAS? That is the question!

All welcome

ah good, that's the same as me, so really I'm only cycle 3. That makes me feel better

I didnt count my post-ERPC one either, although maybe I should write all of mine off since they have all been WTF!

Can't believe its Thursday already tomorrow! Where is my half-term going?? Going to London to see War Horse for the MILs birthday tomorrow so that should be a good day out.

Yes to whoever it was who said (Jam I think??) about DH wanting to move on from bad events - he says its done, nothing can be changed get on with it. He keeps saying it doesnt matter that the whole world are announcing pgs, it has nothing to do with us. Im just feeling stressy about dates - close friend who is a week behind us went on maternity leave today :(

I feel like all I've done is moan on here last few posts so I will be better tomorrow I promise!! Someone needs a BFP to cheer me up and give me hope.

Hello Getdownyouwillfall - I feel like I know you, but I think it's just because everytime I've seen your name on MN I imagine a small child perilously perched on the back of my sofa

But I'm very sorry you've suffered the miscarriage. Do expect your emotions to be up & down - most of us join the thread desperate to be pregnant again straight away. Some wait, some don't, some get pregnant quickly others have to settle in and manage a long haul and others find there are bigger issues to deal with. Recovering from this isn't a straight line, unfortunately, more like twists and turns and hills and valleys.

Izzy I think you could have a LH surge but no ovulation, or you could get the surge and delayed ovulation, or you could get the surge, but it take a while before the progesterone levels kick in and you get a temp shift (which is what seems to happen with me).

I have the gin open and the boy in bed. Thanks for the potty training ideas - so far, every day I have thought to myself, ok, that's it, he's clearly not getting it, we'll leave it for a bit. But I think I need to talk about it with the childminder as she's had two children of her own and nannied several whereas I'm clueless about this, and have no idea about whether this time-frame and his progress (if there is progress?) is normal/usual/reasonable or not. DS is 2.6 btw, and he's got great communication, can pull his pants up & down, he can tell me what he needs to do, so understands it, and has gone without peeing for several hours, as well as woken up dry from his nap, but so far doesn't seem to recognise himself when he need to go. Sorry sorry, don't mean to offload all this on this thread.

thanks HeadlessLadyBoo I have a 2 year old who is always precariously perched on something or other, so it seemed an appropriate name for me,

thanks for your gracious welcome and wise advice. Have spent most of the day crying so as you can imagine my face is red, puffy blotchy mess. Im starting to reach acceptance though.

It totally sucks though. I naively and stupidly told a few people, thinking all would be fine. Had to un-tell them today, so got all the usual pats on the head and "nevermind, it was very early" "nevermind it will happen again".

Have cracked open the wine.

velvet (()) for you, having a close friend a week behind must be v hard for you :( I keep having to try and stop thoughts going round and round in my head. Like the guy at work who's wife is about to have 20 week scan must have just got their BFP when I was in the middle of a mc world of doom, so why are they going to have a happy ending when I didn't???? I know there is no answer to that but still can't stop it going round and round. I think that's what gets to me even though I'm trying to focus on the fact that them having a baby doesn't take away me having mine. Just feel resentful that ttc and being pregnant is going to be nothing but stressful and upsetting for me yet it's all fluffy and happy for them :( dooooooommmmmmmmm!!!!!

Also plan detox is leading to nothing but misery, even colleagues have noticed!! Having said that I feel thinner already and I started reading some scary research about the effect sugar had on b vits, your blood and oestrogen eeeek!! I got distracted by having to do some work though, will try and find and will post here if interesting. So if it actually has an effect on actually getting up fudged I'll stop whinging and embrace the lentil curry and minestrone soup I'm currently living off.....

Thanks for looking at my chart girls, am v grateful for your reassurance. I bought a proper bbt thermo from boots today so am going to use both thermos for rest of cycle to see how they differ!

owlinnerds how can you be so sure of AFs imminent arrival??? I bow down in awe of your lack of hpt stash!! Bring able to booze with inlaws coming will devo take edge off AFs arrival tho if she does (I hope she doesn't tho!!)

Hi getdown sorry you find yourself here :( I hope you find it a reassuring place to hang out for a bit. I'd do another preg test as once it goes neg you'll know you've prob got another few weeks until AF starts. I hope DH is spoiling you.

Sorry if I've not namechecked anyone, on phone on train trying to stop all my belongings rolling away! Have a lovely evening all apprentice tonight yay! Xx

getdown sorry you are on here :( it sucks doesnt it? ((((HUGS))) re hte cycle, i think it depends how far in you went, plus how it was "removed" ie naturally or eprc which ultimately determines how long it takes to get back to normal - so i keep being told. Whether that is true i dont know [hgrin] My WTF cycle was 3 weeks after bleed stopped, no apparent ov, My first cycle just complete post MC has been 4 days shorter than normal so thats good. My stress levels i think delayed ov tho. It does get easier, we were all blubbering wrecks on here in the beginning, cry as it helps! xxxxxxxx One thingi will say is that no matter how early it was, it is still YOUR loss, your baby, your dreams shattered in an instant...just try to ignore the do-gooders comments and take the time you need to grieve. Its not stupid telling everyone. I did! First pg i told select friends and fam at 5 wks (took to term) last pg i think just about everyone knew....... its hideous untelling! But you arent alone :(

Izz how many times is 'plenty' in a night, and how do you have the time? (or the energy!) [hgrin] [henvy]

gizzards still not managed to change my name!! DONT KNOW HOW BUT WANT TO - buggeration!

fondant stop whinging and get on with it [hgrin]can you tell my mother is cruel a matron?

Gah gotta go, DS is not wanting to sleep this eve........got my lurgy bug [hsad]

BOO 2.6 is early still for a boy! MY DS just 3 and still poos his pants! and has lots of accidents! All different, and yet my friends DD was trained at 17months (so advanced dont'ya know? [hangry])

I on the other hand have had a better day! [hwink]

And here it is again, thought i should up date my status, bout time me thinks...wouldnt dare on phone, dh sound asleep so nipped onto his precious!!!

WEDNESDAY'S LIST

Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 29
Lottiecrump UCL 27/29
cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL29
Littlemiss72 TTC#1(post MC#2) UCL 29 BFP
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 48
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD44
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD39
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD32
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD32
Tunnocksteacake TTC #2, cycle 1, UCL28 CD5
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD28
owlshoes TTC#1, cycle 4, UCL 28, CD28
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD 24
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD24
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD23
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 3 UCL 27 CD22
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD22
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD22
urbanlolly TTC#2 Cycle 1 (post MMC) UCL29 CD22
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD20
Inbetweener TTC#3 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD18
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 28 CD16
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 4 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD14
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 3 (round 3) UCL27 CD11
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, CD9
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 5, UCL 24-28, CD9
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD8
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 2 post MC UCL 30-40 CD2

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
? KT
Mousebacon TTC#2 MC#1 4th Oct WTF cycle
barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle
Jollster WTTC#2 after 3MMC

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP 7 September
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep
StarflowerGirl BFP ~24 Sep
Digitalgirl BFP 4 October
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct

nix glad today was better [hsmile]

Grapefruit juice - check.
CBFM high - check.
Slap bang in the middle of the cycle - check
Preseed at the ready - check
DH - Erm, where is he?????? He had to take some flipping clients out to dinner tonight but promised me that it wouldn't get in the way of SWI!!! [hhmm] He's going to get woken up at 5:30 tomorrow morning for some action unless he gets home soon!!!!

Apprentice sweepstake on who you reckon is going to get kicked out tonight? I really really really really really really really hope it's Melissa....

How rude i didn't even say hello to you all....
HELLO
welcome getdown sorry for your loss as the other ladies have said it's really tough no matter how early, still a little life, still your baby....BIG HUGS XXX

O' nearly forgot my Crap/pathetic waste of paper thought for day...I owe tax man £0.81p Grrrrrrrrrh!!!!!!

Happy amazing use of paper thought for the day he owes me over £700!!!!!Wooooooopie
Don't plan to tell dh as he owes me alot more and he's not wriggling out of it!!Heeeeeh

fondo is melissa the really relaly annoying blond one? PITA! off to watch sod the wallpapering.... DS snoring hoorah [hsmile]

lols [henvy] at hte tax man!

ladies we havent had many bfps yet? where is loola pussy cat?!

all you shagathon-masters make me feel totally inadequate you know! several times a week/day golly gosh am lucky if i get it twice during fertile time lol

Dunno which is worse? 2 ww+ to OV and poss 3WW to OV or 2ww post OV [hsad]

Urm yeah she is!

aghghg omg these girls on the Apprentice are all soooooooooooooooo embarrassing! Yep Melissa's the blond one but tbh Laura is doing my head in too

yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Hello everyone

Getdown, I am really sorry for your loss. I told everyone I knew that I was pregnant too, and then winced about it for ages, you are not alone. Also having an mc does tend to magnify any feelings of guilt, anger and sorrow that you have, so do try and recognise that its a natural response and dont beat yourself up too much. I found This site was a great help to me, I think I have read nearly every page. Helped me a lot trying to work out if my recovery was normal (wasnt unfortunatley, I still havent got a period 7 months later eeek!) I agree with the others, now is the time for treats and indulgance, here is your welcome pack

Izzy I'm struggling to find a way to say this without sounding like a nag or wierd or something, but I think you should do some more shagging! I would trust a temp rise any day of the week over CBFM peak. I believe this because peak (LH surge) means ovulation imminent/likely but not that its definitely happened, I would start shagging at the peak and keep going until the temp rise if I were you. Bear in mind that when you put your SWI dates in FF it will haunt you all through the two week wait as it draws a pretty chart called "Intercourse timing" and labels your efforts "Score = GOOD/FAIR/PATHETIC" (OK so that might not be the exact terminology, but it can feel like it!) Sorry if you are knackered and its not what you want to hear...Tell me to mind my own business if you like though!

LadyBoo Hang in there with the potty training - its great when its done! Watching Potty Time with Elmo one zillion times helped DS sort out all his issues pretty quick, although having only ONE topic of conversation for so long didnt do much for my social skills

He also enjoyed "teaching" the dolly I bought him how to use its own plastic potty - especially when dolly got sweets when she got it right, that made him sprint to his own potty! Unfortunatley DH has big issues with his son playing with a pink dolly, (latino man thing) so that was a bit short lived. I knicked the idea from Dr Phils Potty Train in One Day (pffff yeah right!!) It took us a few weeks but I am so glad its done. Keep at it!!!

sorry got days wrong just been consulting FF, NIGHT NIGHT ALL hope tomorrow is a good one XX

WEDNESDAY'S LIST

Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 29
Lottiecrump UCL 27/29
cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL29
Littlemiss72 TTC#1(post MC#2) UCL 29 BFP
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 48
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD44
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD39
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD32
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD32
Tunnocksteacake TTC #2, cycle 1, UCL28 CD5
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD28
owlshoes TTC#1, cycle 4, UCL 28, CD28
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD 24
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD24
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD23
urbanlolly TTC#2 Cycle 1 (post MMC) UCL29 CD23
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 3 UCL 27 CD22
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD22
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD22
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD20
Inbetweener TTC#3 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD18
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 28 CD16
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 4 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD14
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 3 (round 3) UCL27 CD11
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, CD9
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 5, UCL 24-28, CD9
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD8
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 2 post MC UCL 30-40 CD2

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
? KT
Mousebacon TTC#2 MC#1 4th Oct WTF cycle
barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle
Jollster WTTC#2 after 3MMC

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP 7 September
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep
StarflowerGirl BFP ~24 Sep
Digitalgirl BFP 4 October
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct

mummya noooooooo....!!!! > actually, we can't at the minute because I'm at my parents' and dh isn't joining us until the weekend, so we're having a break. But in any event, I'm on day 22 and have never had a cycle longer than 29 days, so if I do ov now it'll be pretty pointless anyway.

And just to reassure you nicks we never manage more than twice a day (nothing compared to knitter I know!). This month it's been once a day but the problem is the length of time it's been ongoing (got my first CBFM high at day 10). So it's really not that impressive, and for the record next month I am definitely just doing every other day until peak, then daily for a few days, because it has really been a bit much this time round [no stamina emoticon]. Dh was saying last night that he needed a break but (at my look of horror- bearing in mind 2nd day of peak - and with an utter lack of enthusiasm) "don't worry we can keep relentlessly banging away at it tonight" . Then we just ended up laughing until we cried, so at least if romance is truly dead chez izz we are managing to keep a smile on our faces

I am so not looking forward to seeing my intercourse timing chart on ff - I just know it's going to be 12 days of " great effort but complete waste of time" followed by a week of "why weren't you shagging now?!" and then straight into AF.

Now then, back to the important stuff - who is testing?!!

Day 10 till day 21 Blimey, you must be knackered! Thats way more than DH and I ever managed, no wonder you want a break. I'm a glad you and your DH are keeping a sense of humour about it all.

strange that you havent had your temp rise though hope it shows up soon. xxxx

News flash: I have got blood in my knickers. Had a bit of spotting after the gynelogical torture procedure yesterday, but didnt think much of it, but its 24 hours later and just had a noticeable splodge. (still on the pill by the way) Not sure what to make of it.

Forgive me if I relay details of every drop over the next few hours, after 7 months of waiting for normal periods to resume, this feels really momentous.

Hello there... After my little issue with posting the daily stats, I won't be trying that again. So probably best to remove me....

Cheers all.

Yey for mummya!
Back later for proper postage.

Oops, also hi to getdown!

Hello everybodypeeps.
Just a quickie as I'm shooting off to work shortly.
I'm on D5 now ,booo!
I've decided to leave TTC till 2011 as I need to focus on work and I want to do and eat what ever I fancy over the festive season.
I'll still drop in and see how you are all getting along though.

Yey for MA [hgrin]

Hello again to Getdown, these ladies are sooper douper and will look after you.

BrownB are you ok Toots?

Love to you all. X