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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 6)

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KnitterNotTwitter · 23/09/2010 16:10

A lovely place for those either lurking, waiting, WTFing or SWI after MCing...

...with optional fish slapping

OP posts:
inbetweener · 18/10/2010 10:32

Morning all,

Im a bit Shock at all your posts over the weekend lol. I cant get on at the weekends or OH will think Im a crazy woman getting obsesed with ttc ! Who me, surely not !!
So its mnuch easier here at work.

Velvet - POAS !!!! Its the best way to start the day surely lol.

So what does SWI mean then ladies ? Im new to all this you know !

As for me, well can you add me to the list please. Im ttc#3 cycle 3 CD10. Im not sure what to put for when im ovulating but according to the calender thingy its form the 20th onwards so I guess I will be dtd with OH every night this week. Bloody hell he wont know what to do with himself !!

As for X-factor, it WAS weird this week. I loathe Cher but love Adiden and matt. Think OH was a bit Envy at the way i shouted YES !! When he got through lol.

Wombat33 · 18/10/2010 11:03

Morning all. Will catch up on the weekend chat later. Hope you had good weekends. We've been SWI for Britain this weekend as DH is now away until Friday. am hoping ov either happens tomorrow or waits until next weekend - if only my body would obey. We'll see!

Hugs all round xxx

youremindmeofthebat · 18/10/2010 11:34

Morning all!
Day 11 for me. I'm really going to try hard this month. I am sure that it'll make af more disappointing if it rollds round, but here goes! Besides, theres bugger all on the tv for the next few days..

Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 29
Lottiecrump UCL 27/29
cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL29
Littlemiss72 TTC#1(post MC#2) UCL 29
digitalgirl TTC#2 Cycle 3 UCL41 CD43 BFP!
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 39
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD35
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD30
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD29
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD25
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD23
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD24
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD23
Tunnocksteacakes TTC #2, WTF cycle, UCL? CD22
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD21
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD 15
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD15
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD14
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 3 UCL 27 CD13
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD13
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD13
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD11
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 28 CD7
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 4 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD5
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 3 (round 3) UCL27 CD2
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, ?CD2

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Urbanlolly
? KT
? Inbetweener
?Mousebacon
barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep
StarflowerGirl BFP ~24 Sep
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct

inbetweener · 18/10/2010 12:57

Please put me on as TTC:

Inbetweener TTC#3 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD9

nickstermum · 18/10/2010 13:05

Betweener Shagging with intent!

Oooh my TCOYF has arrived today along with super cheap pee and pg sticks :) 30 for a fiver off amazon if anyone wants to know - both OV and PG) as well as my thermometre. Can i start temping around day 29? or shall i wait until CD1? (could be a while lol)

Very excited at trying out someof the diagrams in there, golly!! well done MA for the recommendation! PF didnt get a FM, just the thermo, but gonna drink lots of grapefruit juice again this month to see if it has the same effect... well not quite so much!!

VElvet - any news?
To those BFP'ers how are you feeling? Hairy Caribou and of course apples
Up to my eyeballs in undercoat, party food and a very messy house, all that to try and sort before wrapping presents!!! Gah where do i start...?! Love it :)

MummyAbroad · 18/10/2010 15:21

Hi all,

sorry I have not been on much, been feeling very down. Have been researching Ashermans more, the more I learn the more it seems to be describing my case exactly. I know this is the horrible "google effect" but the pieces of the puzzle are coming scarily together, I am going to have to get the courage up to do a test to confirm/deny it because if I do have it cant afford to waste anymore time and if I dont the relief will be most welcome.

Nix - welcome to the world of temping, may your themometer always tell you what you want it to Grin I would definitely start now, because it takes a little while to get used it it all, by the time you are in a proper cycle you will have had a bit of practice. Also when you look back you will learn a lot from what went on. Get yourself on fertilityfriend if you are not already. Dont forget to click on someone elses home page so you both get 5 free VIP days. Have a lovely party.

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IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 18/10/2010 16:09

mummyabroad go and have the test before you drive yourself mad - at least then you know what you're working with and, like you say, either start moving towards treatment if necessary or relax and stop worrying - I know it's really scary but in some ways it's more stressful worrying about what might be and nit really knowing. ((((big hugs)))) x

velvet - where are you? Have you POAS yet?

nicks agree, make a start with the temping so you get the hang of it. I have also ordered TCOYF from eBay, although there's no sign of it turning up yet!! Looking fwd to having a read when it finally gets here. In the meantime, enjoy your ds's party!

inbetweener I have to rush off now to dd's swimming lesson but if no-one's redone the list when I get online later I'll have a go.

ladyboo how did your appointment go?

Well we're on cd13 here and my 4th day of CBFM high. Last month we had 6 highs before the peak, so I'm torn between continuing to SWI every day to make sure we catch the window, but risk wearing dh out/getting back into the old sperm donor argument; or go back to every other day until the peak to take the pressure off but risk missing the window. Tricky one.

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digitalgirl · 18/10/2010 16:48

Been lurking lots but you ladies do talk alot it's difficult to keep up Grin. Just wanted to say hi and thanks for keeping me on the list. Had a scan today which went well, saw baby in the right place with heart beating away. It's the furthest I've seen on a scan since ds so feeling like I've got past the last 2 mc milestones. So even though it's still early days I feel ready to graduate. Smile good luck to all of you and hope to see you on the grads thread soon!

Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 29
Lottiecrump UCL 27/29
cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL29
Littlemiss72 TTC#1(post MC#2) UCL 29
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 39
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD35
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD30
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD29
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD25
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD23
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD24
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD23
Tunnocksteacakes TTC #2, WTF cycle, UCL? CD22
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD21
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD 15
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD15
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD14
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 3 UCL 27 CD13
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD13
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD13
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD11
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 28 CD7
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 4 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD5
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 3 (round 3) UCL27 CD2
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, ?CD2

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Urbanlolly
? KT
? Inbetweener
?Mousebacon
barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep
StarflowerGirl BFP ~24 Sep
Digitalgirl BFP 4 October
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 18/10/2010 17:44

Woo-hoo!!! That's fantastic news digi am so pleased for you!!! Here's to an uneventful seven and a half (?) months ahead Grin

Right I did say I'd try to add inbetweener so here goes:

MONDAY'S LIST

Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 29
Lottiecrump UCL 27/29
cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL29
Littlemiss72 TTC#1(post MC#2) UCL 29
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 39
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD35
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD30
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD29
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD25
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD23
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD24
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD23
Tunnocksteacakes TTC #2, WTF cycle, UCL? CD22
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD21
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD 15
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD15
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD14
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 3 UCL 27 CD13
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD13
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD13
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD11
Inbetweener TTC#3 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD9
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 28 CD7
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 4 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD5
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 3 (round 3) UCL27 CD2
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, ?CD2

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Urbanlolly
? KT
?Mousebacon
barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep
StarflowerGirl BFP ~24 Sep
Digitalgirl BFP 4 October
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct

nickstermum · 18/10/2010 17:50

aaaah mummy im so sorry you have been feeling so rubbish about all of this. Understand why you want to abstain from MN if not feeling so great x

I truly hope that you havent got Ashermans, and you will only know one way or the other, seems sensible to find out especially if its a treatable condition... thinking of you lovely, fabulous lady and i so, so hope you get some favourable answers soon xxxxx

nickstermum · 18/10/2010 17:52

digi fabulous news...xxxxxxx

Choccybick · 18/10/2010 19:00

Hiya

Just a quickie inbetween baking choccy cakes and trying to keep DH in a good mood for SWI later on.
I want to have a different kind of choccy buns in the oven.

Digi thats fab news. Wishing you lots of luck and take it easy.

mummyabroad I will have to google what youre talking about coz I dont know anything about it. As Nicks said. We are there for you.

ttyl

Jamface · 18/10/2010 19:26

It's a good idea to have a test if you're very concerned mummya. Is it straightforward to diagnose? Did you mention it to the gynae last week? Sending lots of positive thoughts and hugs your way.

That's very good news digi, hopefully you have been able to breathe a sigh of relief and relax a little x

Good luck with the temping nicks. I have stopped short of that so far as I'm worried Dh would think I had gone too far and was taking it all too seriously. I'll hold out for a few more cycles before adding that to my ever increasing bag of tricks designed to help me get up the duff. Our DS are very close in age. Mine was 3 on the 3rd (is yours a boy and about to turn 3 or did I get that wrong?) We had a big party for family and friends and it was surprisingly calm and harmonious. Wishing the same for you Smile

Good luck with the choccy buns and your ulterior motive for baking them choccy! 'The way to a man's heart...' and all that, although I suppose at this stage you're not targeting his heart exactly Wink

And a big hello to everyone else xx

Velvetcu · 18/10/2010 19:38

Great news Digi!

We got the call at work today and we have OFSTED tomorrow and Weds so I shouldnt be in here!!! For those of you who are in the know about such matters, we are in special measures and this is meant to be our final visit to get out of it but that aint never gonna happen so all are running around like headless chickens.

No POAS since I thought AF was here on Friday and today I've had some very dark brown stuff so she should be here tomorrow I reckon even tho all PMTness has gone away! Am very pissed of with this cycle - am thinking the white stuff last week was EWCM maybe???

Anyway am temping now but they seem to be all over the place too!

Right, back to lesson planning all singing all dancing lessons for the little darlings Hmm

MamaPower · 18/10/2010 19:52
kat2504 · 18/10/2010 19:53

velvet good luck tomorrow! Hope you do get out of special measures after all, that would surely be a big relief for you. Hope you have something nice planned to relax after the singing and dancing is over!

mummy have followed your posts quite a bit on the threads. Hadn't heard of Asherman's before but googled it too when you read it and apparently it can be a consequence of up to 4% of D+C operations or something like that, but can be treated effectively by surgery? I hope you get a diagnosis one way or the other very soon so you can get the problem fixed and not feel like the time is being wasted. I'm an avid hypochondriac symptom googler but sometimes you learn stuff the docs don't tell you. For instance, they could have told me to prepare for the worst when I had a scan at 8 weeks. But they didn't. And according to doctor google, a heart rate of 63 at 8 weeks was never going to get the poor baby very far.

Agnes many congratulations on your bfp. Wishing you a successful and happy nine months ahead, and I'm sure many people will be grateful for your tip, I might try it for weight loss, never mind ttc! Did you manage to lose any pounds before getting pg?

SWI festival at the weekend, but no blimming positive opk despite twice daily testing. Bet it will be late like last month and apart from Wednesday this week, no further opportunities till Saturday night :( Oh well the effort was fun and practise makes perfect!

What sort of stuff is in TCOYF? I'm starting to consider getting one. However, I'm worried that I'll find it full of "alternative" remedies which I'm not really into. perhaps someone could give me a brief contents summary. If it's a guide to successful charting it is just what I need!

HeadlessLadyBoo · 18/10/2010 20:50

Hi all - Good to see you digi and brilliant news on the scan, great stuff!

ah mummyabroad, well, if you're really worried than I guess you need to see whether you can find a specialist with some experience in Ashermans there. Have you found the support group online? Maybe they can give you some advice?

Well, the appointment went fine this morning, mostly. There was one result not back yet, and they didn't receive a sample from me to do the chromosome testing so I have to go back and give that again.
The consultant himself was ok, quite a blunt manner but not unfriendly and not patronising, especially when he realised I'd come prepared and could talk numbers to him.

So results are - tested positive for Leiden Factor V mutation, but only one copy of the mutation on my gene, not two - this raises risk of clotting by ~ 10% I think, whereas if I had two copies it would much much higher. Consultant didn't feel that I should be treated for this on pregnancy to try to prevent miscarriage, but that it should be noted if pregnancy proceeds in case I get hospitalized for any reason as they'd probably want to keep an eye on it.

Not sure how I feel about that, pleased that I don't immediately need to contemplate daily injections, but think I'll get the 'testing' ladies view on it as well.
Other clotting tests seem to be within normal ranges.

Antiphospholipid test wasn't completed yet so have to wait a bit longer that.

Follicular screening all looked mostly fine for someone with PCOS - my LH/FSH ratio is looking good, and he was happy with me remaining on Metformin, feels confident that I'm ovulating on it, which I agree with.

He reminded me Hmm that PCOS is associated with increased MC risk (oh good). I guess I'd blanked that out, concentrating on PCOS effect on getting pg in the first place and wasn't worrying about so much as I seem to be ovulating ok.

Anyway - apart from the Leiden Factor V, I'm basically in the same position as I was before I conceived DS, so no difference at the moment, we just keep on trying and hope the next one sticks.

Got a follow-up in 4 weeks where maybe some results on the antiphospholipid will be in.

PinkFondantFancy · 18/10/2010 21:06

Hello all, on train home after another 12 hour day at work :( sooooo wish I was on maternity in 2 months' time.... Anyway best not to dwell on these things-hopefully will be home in time to get some swoi (do you reckon that acronym works for without intent??)

digi fab news on scan! boo consultant sounds promising, fingers crossed more negative results and then you can fully believe in the 'just random bad luck' theory.

velvet I'm thinking my pant snot was ewcm too-arse!! Never mind I'll be prepared this month! Best of luck with ofsted!

mummya sorry you're having shite time, I agree with others, you should test, better to know either way.

Hello to everyone else, have run out of space on screen!! Back to
Ottos xx

PinkFondantFancy · 18/10/2010 21:08

Otherwise known as 'back tomorrow'!! Damn phone!

Also, have only flicked through TCOYF but it is super interesting, no hippy stuff so far, just explains how your cycle works, how to check cm how to temp, how to check cervix etc. I got it for about £10 on amazon, seems like a lot of book for £10!

Also nicks hope party goes well!

youremindmeofthebat · 18/10/2010 21:18

why am I bleeding a bit again??

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 18/10/2010 21:18

ladyboo consultants can be a bit blunt, can't they? Glad to hear it all went well in the main, no major issues requiring treatment is good. I don't know anything about Leiden Factor v but I guess if they know about it they can keep an eye on it in future pgs?(I am an ignoramus so forgive me if that's not the case). How long will it take for other tests?

kat I also had a look and thought the risk of asherman's was actually higher than that - and yet as you say it's not something that we're warned about before an ERPC.

mummyabroad I hope I didn't sound too blunt earlier, this must be such a worrying time for you and I just worry that you'll get more scared googling and wondering than finding out. We're all here for you

velvet and mamapower hope work goes ok, don't get too stressed

youremindmeofthebat · 18/10/2010 21:18

mummya so sorry to hear that. Hope you can find answers/get a diagnosis. hugs for you.

nickstermum · 18/10/2010 21:31

chocky your cakes look awesome! Grin

nickstermum · 18/10/2010 21:50

Headless nope i cant call you that, just watching young victoria and that is how i imagine you are !! :) ish! Glad you had the appointment, even though you have a few answers, but sorry you dont seem to have a diagnosis you can move forward with if that makes sense? I didnt know there was a higher association of PCOS and MC, i thought it affected the conception only. Great about your FSH levels etc... sometimes you want a diagnosis so you can pinpoint a treatment dont you.. makes it easier than having no answers! Hope you are ok about it and that maybe the A (wont even attempt to spell it) test may shed more light? [hwink]

Bat you only had a short period? Could just be the tail end? Mine always stops for a day or two then comes back! Bonkers.

velvet sorry everything is all over the place at the min, its not much fun when you dont know where you are is it?

MA Kat Izzy i also googled ashermans, out of pure curiousity so i could at least try to understand. There are treatments for it though arent there? Heres hoping you get somewhere further one way or another with finding a solution xxx

Kat TCOYF is all about charting, cervix, understading and reading your charts - its been great actually! Not alternative!! I would like a book on that actually. Sadly it doesnt guarantee a BFP but that would just be too much to ask, agree Izz not bad for a tenner, doorstop at that!!

The one question it doesnt answer for me is how long it takes the sperm to reach an egg..... ! Izzy you have any answers to that? Please someone get the fish out? I am only 6 dpo ish and imagining nausea already and its not likely in the least to be the case [hgrin] [hgrin]

Fondant dont have time to SWOI too much baking, and all that shit to do!! I am a working mother, i dont BAKE! [hsmile]

appleblossoms · 18/10/2010 21:54

My lovely ladies, how are you all doing tonight? Going to do my best to catch up but am on my phone...
Huge huge hugs to mummya you've had such a tough time of it. I know what we all want after the dreadfulness of a mc is at least to be able to move on...i really feel for you. I agree with the others, badger the docs for more tests if it's easy to diagnose. Thinking of you lovely.
velvet you're a stronger girl than me...i would've poas despite af arriving! Hope inspection goes well...
ladyboo no idea about your tests but I assume that's all good news? Is it just a matter of carrying on as before with fingers crossed?
kat I did lots of practicing last month waiting for the positive opk, so I reckon it's worth 'studying' for the big test. Hehe
PFF I wouldn't want your 12 hour shifts!
digi GREAT news about your scan, hurray. Hope you can relax and enjoy it now... hairy do you have another scan coming up?
I'm waiting to hear about a date, but have started feeling ever so slightly sick, hurray! I'm not really a graduate yet, wouldn't have placed myself down there just yet! Still very scared about the whole thing so going to plonk myself down on the sofa and pretend i'm still ttc. Grin
Big waves to izzy, nicks, mamap, pretty and everyone.