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Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your cake, wine and tightie whities and join us for more ranting, weeping and most of all, laughing. All welcome (Part 6)

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KnitterNotTwitter · 23/09/2010 16:10

A lovely place for those either lurking, waiting, WTFing or SWI after MCing...

...with optional fish slapping

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Velvetcu · 18/10/2010 21:56

Chocky me wants those cakes!! [henvy]

I'm sooo bored with writing lesson plans and I've only done 2 out of 8 so far. [hshock]

Can you guess I'm loving the halloween emotes? It seems nickster is too.

mousebacon · 18/10/2010 21:56

MONDAY'S LIST

Pinkie08 TTC#3 UCL 29
Lottiecrump UCL 27/29
cheepz TTC#2 (round 4) UCL29
Littlemiss72 TTC#1(post MC#2) UCL 29
BrownB TTC#1 Cycle 15 (post MC#1) UCL 24-26 CD 39
Loola2shu TTC#3 Cycle 2 (post nmc#1) ucl??? (PCOS) CD35
Freezingmyarseoff TTC#2 cycle 3 UCL28 CD30
Nickstermum TTC#2 cycle 1 post MC UCL 30-40 CD29
KnitterNotTwitter TTC#2, (round 3) cycle 2 UCL 30 CD25
PrettyVacant1 TTC#1 Cycle 5(round 7)UCL 28-30 CD23
sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 4, UCL 24-28, CD24
DachshundsRule TTC#1 cycle 2 UCL28 CD23
Tunnocksteacakes TTC #2, WTF cycle, UCL? CD22
getawiggleon TTC#2, MC#1, UCL28, CD21
Tigger15 TTC#2 cycle 19 UCL24-9 CD 15
MamaPower TTC#1, cycle 4 (post MC#2) UCL 25- 27 CD15
kat2504, TTC#1, cycle 2 UCL 26, CD14
choccybick TTC#1 (post mc1) cycle 3 UCL 27 CD13
IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy TTC#3 cycle 3 UCL26-28 CD13
Wombat33 TTC#1 Cycle 1 (post MC) UCL 31 CD13
youremindmeofthebabe TTC#2, Cycle 3 UCL33 CD11
Inbetweener TTC#3 Cycle 3 UCL 29 CD9
pinkfondantfancy TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL 28 CD7
Jamface TTC#2 cycle 4 (post MC#2), UCL 27 CD5
LadyBee TTC#2, cycle 3 (round 3) UCL27 CD2
velvetcu TTC #1 Cycle 3 UCL 35, ?CD2

WTTC

Sillyness TTC#1 post MC1 WTF cycle
Jollster TTC #2, MC3 conf 16th Aug
BackOnceAgain TTC#3, MC 17th Aug
Shitforbrains TTC#3, MC 1st Sep
Sarahmia TTC#2, MC2
MummyAbroad TTC #2,(MMC#1 31 Mar, ERPC 7 Jul)
Urbanlolly
? KT
Mousebacon TTC#2 MC#1 4th Oct WTF cycle
barrenbrook TTC#1, MC#4 Oct 2010
Lemonsherbet TTC #1, ERPC 15 Oct 2010, WTF cycle

MIA
pippaandpolly
Honeywitch TTC#1
Curlylox TTC#3
delilahbelle TTC#1

RECENT GRADUATES
BUnderthebonnet BFP 20 June
Muser BFP 22 June
northerngoldilocks - BFP 12 July
Magic8ballhastheanswers BFP 14 July
Hopefully BFP 22 July
IvySedai BFP 1 August
PenguinsMummy BFP 15th August
batteryhen BFP 18 August
VivClicquot BFP 25 August
Loopymumsy BFP 29 August
CaribouMoo BFP
hairytriangle BFP 21 Sep
StarflowerGirl BFP ~24 Sep
Digitalgirl BFP 4 October
Appleblossoms BFP 9 Oct

Felt the urge to add my details. The bleeding is bound to stop soon then the SWI can begin again Hmm

PinkFondantFancy · 18/10/2010 22:04

I loooooooove the little halloween faces!! Was told there is to be no SWOI, he's too tired......... I never thought this day would come.....!

kat2504 · 18/10/2010 22:09

velvet sending cakes to help you with your planning. What subject/age group do you teach? sorry it sounds like your AF is on its way.

PFF can't win with blokes! If you only wanted to SWI and couldn't be bothered the rest of the time, they'd accuse of us of only wanting them for their genetic material! Still better let him get a day or two of rest in before your SWI in earnest time begins.

nickstermum · 18/10/2010 23:02

fondant enjoy the peace.... [hgrin]
i am off to bed with TCOYF and a peppermint tea [hsmile] xxxx

apples great to hear you are getting symptoms, hope you get as sick as a dog xxx xxx

Night all x

nickstermum · 18/10/2010 23:27

Nope..... I draw the line at shoving the thermometer up my arse!!!

IzzyWizzyletsgetbusy · 18/10/2010 23:48

...fanjo, nickster ? [hgrin]

MummyAbroad · 19/10/2010 02:40

Gosh, I have missed a lot. I promise I will catch up with you all, but I am going to have a long moan first...

Thanks so much everyone for all your support - especially Izz, not at all blunt my dear, you are dead right, worrying is much worse than doing something about it. DH took me out for lunch today, managed to blow some cobwebs away and come up with a plan of action. Have an appointment with gyne in 8 days and I am going to shell out for every test going just to see if I can get this sorted now one way or the other. I am going to ask for 3D ultrasound test and an HSG - they put a tube up your fanjo, squirt your uterus full of dye and then take xray images,results are instant.

Sorry to make you all google, I will give some more info to those that havent and because I want to get some things off my chest.

So, Ashermans Syndrome is when the uterus is damaged by scar tissue and can cause miscarriage and infertility. Scar tissue can be caused by a number of factors, overly aggressive ERPC's, infection, chlamydia amongst others. It is particularly "common" after an ERPC on a post natal woman (recently given birth to full term baby) because the uterus is particularly sensitive at this time and hasnt yet shrunk back to normal size. Mild to moderate scarring can be treated with keyhole surgery to remove the scars. This should only be performed by an Ashermans expert (someone who does at least one a month) anyone else will make the problem worse. If you are successfully treated for Ashermans and get pregnant a ceasarian is a good option because the placenta is likely to get stuck after birth, requiring yet more ERPC's and more damage.

When DS was born two years ago (in the Uk), I had a natural vaginal birth (born 9 pounds, go meGrin) but the stupid evil bitch labour ward nurse who was there at delivery ignored the fact that I had opted not to have an injection for the third stage pulled the placenta out with her hands immediately after the birth. I bled continuously and horrendously for a month, eventually collapsed, had an emergency ERPC for retained placenta followed by two blood transfusions, I then didnt get my period for 6 months. Back in costa rica I was prescribed progesterone, got my period back, went on the pill until trying for DC2. Then came the missed miscarriage, baby died at 8 and half weeks but I had no symptoms until week 14. Tried medical management but nothing could get the "tissues" out. I had 7 rounds of pessaries and there were still bits left in, and I got an infection, then eventually another ERPC followed by no periods. Its been 15 weeks since the ERPC, taking progesterone hasnt worked. Scans show I am ovulating, I feel period pain when my chart says I should be bleeding, but there is no blood because the uterus lining is only 3mm (should be 8-15mm)

OK, so I do accept that all of this info is from google, the last gyne I saw is saying there is a possibility that I have a hormonal problem (based on nothing though, I have always had regular periods, I'm ovulating and blood tests are fine) so until I have a test I cant say for sure whats going on. Whats really scaring me though is that there is so much in my history to suggest scarring on the uterus from the first ERPC. So its not just a case of if I have it, but how bad it could be after all this time and recent extra damage.

Anyway, the idea of possibly being infertile is just devastating, and for the last few days I have been paralysed by fear and all the rage and anger about DS's birth has resurfaced too. However, I think I have done enough sobbing now, and now its time to be proactive again and do what I can to either get this ruled out or learn how bad it is and what if anything can be done. Onwards and upwards and all thatSmile

I thought long and hard about posting all this on here because I know it will probably scare everyone who has had an ERPC (I am thinking especially of you mouse as yours is so recent) or post mc infection. Ashermans is called "rare" but there are many who believe it is actually "underdiagnosed" I am just learning all about it myself so I dont know what the truth is. Anyway I decided to share as it might help someone who reads but doesnt post and I decided in the end that if it helps one person get an early diagnosis thats better than saving everyone from a bit of worry.

There is a great video full of info from Dr Lower

Thanks for letting me monopolise the thread a bit here ladies. It feels good to have an outlet for all these feelings and a bunch of sympathetic ears, thank you xxxxxxx

MummyAbroad · 19/10/2010 04:06

now for catch up...

lemonsherbet sorry you find yourself here and sorry for your loss. Hope all these lovely ladies give you the support you need. Here is a welcome pack for lurkers Wink

teacake thats great news that your bleeding has stopped and you got the negative test. Hope your WTF goes easy on you. xxx

AgnesBrown I will be buying vast quantities of Acai Berries!! Congrats on your BFP, non alcoholic welcome pack for you!

apple hooray for morning sickness! Fingers crossed scan date comes soon.

velvet sorry if the brown stuff does turn out to be AF. I do think you deserve an award though for your steely HPT resilience! Well done!

kat I know what you mean by the Valuable/Terrifying duel nature of google. I will always use it to find out as much as I can about what is going on though, I have been let down by doctors too many times to trust them completely anymore. Thats very sad that they didnt advise you about the heartrate (another thing I didnt know until MN) I wonder if it was policy? or that they thought there might still be a chance all was well. I often wish I had got to hear a heartbeat, but then again it may well have made it all the more painful afterwards.

I am a huge TCOYF fan, its not got any hippy bits at all. I found that I skim read it first, dived in having a go at all the practical stuff and then went back to it many times for reference. (There is a good "troubleshooting" section at the back)

digi congrats on scan milestone[hsmile] Its lovely to hear good news on here, keep it coming! xxxx

Izzy Tricky, I would go with every other day, save energy for every day (and twice on sundays) with peaks. This is the first time in my life I have advised someone when to have sex. Feels weird. [hgrin] [hgrin]

Jamface Ashermans is fairly easy to diagnose with HSG which I'm told is about as uncomfortable as a 30 min smear test.Confused I think I will require a large double immediately afterwards because I hate getting in those stirrups now, but needs must. The gyne was the one who mentioned Ashermans to me and she wasnt very delicate with it either. I wont be going back to her ever again and she has been struck off my christmas card list. Confused

LadyBoo I'm glad the cons appointment went well. I can completely relate to the wanting them to find something wrong thing (well until recently, now I desperately want them to prove I am fine!) From the Lesley Regan book I gather that a lot of the blood clotting tests are repeated as sometimes "clear" doesnt always mean clear, are they planning to run you through the mill a couple more times yet? I hope you get some good answers and that anything found is mild and easily treatable!xxxxxxxxxx

batgirl tell us more, are you allright?

waves to wombat, mamap, pink, chockybic nix mouse inbetweener and everyone else

xxxxxxxxx

Urbanlolly · 19/10/2010 07:32

Hello everyone hope you are all well...very quick catch up... On phone, on train booooo!
mummya my heart goes out to you, glad you put an action plan together, I def think the not knowing will drive you crazy....I have everything crossed for you...xx thanks for shareing your story....can't belive what that f*ing midwife did to you..Reading that just made me cross my legs & hold my tummy... Holy Shit.....
velvet good luck with the tests today..
ladybee Not really cluded up on your tests but sounds promising? Hope the rest are all clear too...x
apple digi hairy keep the good news comming.... Really puts a big [hsmile] on my face some hope to cling on to xxxx

well there is slot of SWI on the go this week.... Me too am due to ovulate sometime over this week!!! Have just started opking... The lines have been getting darker but are not as fat as test line?? Does that mean lh is rising? Not sure what dh energy levels or my own will be like in a few days!!! But hope to give it our best shot.... Has anyone followed the advise on the pregnancy & loss web site?.....sorry can't remember excatly what it says something like 3 days on 1 rest day..... Will have to go check it out....
nicks any signs???? Sorry I'm sure your trying not to think about symptoms... But that's near impossible. Hope you all have a fandabbydosey party... Had my ass up in the air last night!!!! Just in case!!!!
Have company so have to be a good girl and put the phone away hope you all have a good day xxx

PinkFondantFancy · 19/10/2010 08:29

mummya :( :( so pissed off on your behalf about midwife-what the hell was she playing at?? I think your plan sounds great, 30 min smear test not exactly a barrel of laughs but well worth it to get some answers. Hopefully having a plan will help you chill a bit-I can never relax unless I have an action plan. Sounds like DH is being v supportive too which is good. I know this is a pointless thing to say but please try not to panic about the worst case scenario-fingers crossed from what you were saying there are experts out there that can help you and you'll have another DC yet. HUGE hugs for you, we're all here for you and thinking of you xx

Good luck today velvet hope the little darlings behave for you!

Have a great day everyone xx

PinkFondantFancy · 19/10/2010 08:40

Also nicks you made me laugh out loud on train-fairly sure there's nothing about shoving anything up anyone's arse in the book??! Hahahaha good way of getting accurate temp tho!!

PinkFondantFancy · 19/10/2010 08:47

chocs bookface tells me it's your birthday! Happy birthday!! Have a lovely day!

sunchild77 · 19/10/2010 09:47

Just updating to say AF got me :(
Ahhh can't believe that Im now on cycle 5 post m/c.

Just gutted.

Can someone tack me on the bottom of the list when they get a chance? Thank you and good luck to everyone...

Off to hibernate..

sunchild77 TTC#3 cycle 5, UCL 24-28, CD1

mousebacon · 19/10/2010 10:23

Ah that sucks sunchild really sorry hon.

Happy birthday chocs hope you have a good cake filled day [hsmile]

mummyabroad post away, it definately helps to write these things down I find and, although I do confess to googling ashermans when I read your initial post, I'm trying not to worry about the possibility that could be me.

I'm looking at this week as my last week of 'sick' leave so will enjoy the coffee/wine lifestyle I'm having for a few more days then will take the first few steps back on the way to ttc - start taking my 'mum to be' vitamins again (which were just too ridiculous to take in the immediate aftermath IYSWIM, get back to the decaf etc..

velvet I'm thinking of you today OfSTED is a nightmare at the best of times but dealing with the stress of SM as well must be tough. Good luck Smile

digi hope you're feeling good and sick today my dear.

Have a lovely day everyone xxx

nickstermum · 19/10/2010 10:39

It says on the thermometer instructions the best place for most accurate results is up your arse!!!!

nickstermum · 19/10/2010 10:39

Adds not a hope in hell

nickstermum · 19/10/2010 10:41

Fondants. Cramps all night! Af looks like is imminent which would give me a very short lp so not v happy about that!! Will see. 7 dpo so won't be anything other!

MamaPower · 19/10/2010 11:09

Right then girls, I'm in between meetings and was just popping by to catch up and have realised that we only have 6 messages before a new thread needs to be started!! So given I'm about to head off to Oz for three weeks thought I'd do the honours so I'll technically be there everyday with you!! Will go off start it and come back to post link!

MamaPower · 19/10/2010 11:18

Job done! New thread is here see you there Wink

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