Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 6

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Hi all,
I just went to post on the old thread and noticed it had been locked, so here is a new one!
Come on in!

Womanly I don't want to get your hopes up but it could be implantation bleeding? Really hope for you it is! Have you had any symptoms at all do you think?

Flip so sorry to hear about your mc I am thinking of you x

Must be quick as need to get ds into bed, but I had my IUI this morning! My tumy is now quite heavy and bloated - is this normal? Also, they said to strt the progesterone pessaries tonight, is that the norm too? Am a bit confused as by starting them they obviously don't think we need to dtd again at home - what's the advice that any of you have been given?

Must dash, but hope you are all okay. Keziah still thinking of you xxx

OOOOOOH how exciting!!!! I think if it was me I'd be tempted to go for a shagfest tonight but then I never do what the clinic tell me!! What harm can it do? There is only one or two eggs, so putting more sperm there will only increase your chance of catching an egg!!! makes sense to me but perhaps best to ask someone who knows......

flip and keziah thinking of you both xxx

Drugs are coming tomorrow, drugs are coming tomorrow, still haven't got a flipping clue what to with them, the drugs are coming tomorrow, tra la la!!!

ThAnks monkey but I think its af.. have a bit of brown spotting today. Good luck with insemination..we were told to bd within the 24 hours.
Am waiting for af and sadly will still have to tdst on Fri.

Tortie you do make me laugh DH is playing tennis at the mo, and 'traumatised' by having to you-know-what in a cup this morning... Not sure I could convince him to swi tbh! Will try anyway... Enjoy getting your drugs tomorrow! Have you practised doing an injection yet? I was so worried about it, but it was absolutely fine! I did a count-down (or rather 'up') the first time I had to do it at home, but I would advise knowing when you're going to stop. I sat there just counting for ages

Womanly Do you normally get spotting before AF? It's so difficult this isn't it. Our hopes are built up even more as we're getting help ttc, only for them to fall even further when it doesn't work. I still have my fingers crossed that you might be wrong though

Hi everyone,

Keziah - I'm so sorry What a bitch. I'm thinking of you. How are you bearing up. When my ivf cycle failed I was soooooo devestated - I didn't even want to drink, and that usually solves all my problems! Time will help. I hope you can get some cash together.

Womanly - you OK? Sorry if it was af... but you still have a long way to go. This was just the beginning of your journey.

Tortie - Did you get the drugs? Have you had to use any of them yet? I couldn't bring myself to inject myself ever and am awe of people who do. Although DP once stuck an empty needle into his leg, just to prove to himself that if he ever needed to do it he could!

Monkey - how's it going? I don't get IUI at all, but I hope you're OK.

Flip - I am so so sorry to hear about your mc. That is so awful. I'm sure you will get a little brother or sister for your little girl though - don't give up hope.

Rowing - Checz Republic soon Wow. You're so brave doing it all so far away. Good luck. I've got my fingers crossed for you. Hope you get to do some sightseeing and stuff while you're out there.

Chocolate, Late, Italian, Nook - hello you.

If I've missed anyone else hello and sorry.

I had my final scan at ACU today. All seems to be in order. Growth is fine and we saw a little heart beat. It's so nerve racking. I really hope this works out. I keep having intrusive thoughts about horrible things like mc and stuff and it takes all my energy to push them away, but generally I'm happy and excited. Fingers crossed. I think I'll duck out of this thread now. I've really got a lot of support from you people and I wish you all the very best of luck and I want to say a big thank you to everyone who has been nice to me when I've needed it. I hope I never have to come back here though!

xxxx hugs xxx

womanly - we were told pink light blood was nothing to worry about.

Monkey - great you had IUI. Pessaries normal, I did one in pm and one in am - and they made me bloat quite a bit and have pains etc.

Shirley - glad scan went well. We will find the money somehow, but got 8 weeks before review this failed cycle to wait first anyway. Main problem are 2 old cars that really need replacing - and to get to work we need a car each. Joys of rural areas = no direct public transport!!! Did you do anything differently on the cycle that worked? x

OMG.

I have my drugs but no instructions!!!!

I start Buserelin tomorrow- where do I inject it?

Did they hospital not tell you?

I was told to inject into the fatty bit of my stomach ... nurse sat my down, told me to pinch some fat and inject into it. Anywhere will do. I alternated nights - so first night left side, 2nd night right side and so on. Got a bit swollen so I always tried to do it in slightly different place. Important to drink 2litres or so of water throughout treatment to stop dehydration I was told = well any fluid, as some drugs dehydrate you and it stops some complications.

All the best!!

Hi ladies, thinking of you all.

tametortie welcome. I can?t believe the clinic did not tell you what to do! Call them if in doubt.

Shirley wow ? seeing a heartbeat, how fab!

Rowing good to hear from you.

Choco are you still out there? Horton are you still around?

Lissy did you get well soon? Did you enjoy Purim? We had a lovely service for it. Can?t remember if I said anything to you about it, probably did, I?m getting a bit forgetful!

Keziah, sending you a big bag of baby dust for the future, what are you going to do, do you know yet?
FlipFantasia, Womanly, Val, Late, monkeybumsmum, Pumplinjoy - hugs to you all and anyone I have missed.

I went a bit mad today and told the dentist I might be pregnant, so could not have X-rays! I am only 7 days overdue and I know I am not so what am I doing???

italian i had a dentist appt on Monday and put down 'possibly pregnant' on the form.. only for AF to arrive on Tuesday - LOL.
So first cycle of IUI did not result in a bfp. As shirley quite rightly says - we're just at the beginning...though 2 years onwards it seems like quite a long beginning.
Onwards and upwards, ladies :) Next round will be in May - so shall lurk for awhile and pop in and out to keep track of how you're going.

sorry about that Womanly. Hope May's attempt goes better for you.

Italian - that is "interesting", but one way to get out of fillings!!!

Have booked a review now at clinic, but months away. Feel better with appointment, but wishing away time now in one way and not with my age.

All sorted- have done my injections for the past few days, no stress, no drama, no answer from the clinic just a LOT of googling....

FlipFantasia I am so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. I did not see your post about that when I posted before and when I name checked you and others. I am so sorry I missed that. I must have sounded like a right heartless one! I am sorry you have had this disappointment. I got pregnant within a few months of trying (started nine months after DD was born, conceived via IUI) and miscarried very quickly. In fact I barely knew I was pregnant. Anyway, I guess what I am saying is I have some idea how you feel. I too felt very excited that maybe I would not need to go down the assisted conception route again but it was not to be. So whatever happens I just wish you all the best.

Monkey not sure what ?to dtd again at home' means? Have sex at home? I can?t remember but bloated seems normal, ask at clinic, my mantra is always ask someone who is qualified to answer. My IUI was over 7 years ago (and the result is asleep in her bed at the moment) so it is a distant memory for me! There seems to be mixed views about sex after treatment, discussed earlier here and possibly discussed on the 40s thread I also post on.

tametortie I still can?t believe the clinic did not tell you what to do and have not returned your calls!

Keziah I would just say think carefully about increasing hours if it will make life harder for you health wise and also if you will then find it difficult to cut back. Is there any way you could earn a bit of money in a way that will not affect your health and which you could totally control? I know there are no easy answers I?ve tried selling cards before (greeting cards I mean) and I know there are jobs you can do from home like sales etc which I am sure make little money. I guess I am just wondering what you do and whether there is any way you can do something (legally) on the side aside from work which you can control completely and if you are lucky enough to have a baby you may end up going back to work part-time or even following this (whatever this extra could be)! BUT I know that working from home etc is very hard and so I would be very careful before committing to anything and certainly before parting with cash to get involved in anything! Oopse, sorry, lots of advice here and I am not qualified as a careers adviser!

Shirley how are you? Yes, please do answer that question from Keziah did you do anything different on the cycle that worked!?!

Rowing any news? I?ve got confused about what is happening with your treatment. How are you feeling? Are you fed up at the moment. I know I am just waiting and waiting.

Lissy, how are you, honey?

Womanly, please do stay in touch through all this, so sorry that the cycle did not work out.

Val, Late, Pumplinjoy* - hugs, ladies and baby dust to all - sorry to anyone I have missed.

Well, my period has gone AWOL again, I am not about two weeks over. But before you all shout test/test/test I feel very sure it is just missing in action, last year it stopped for 6 months! I wanted to get a pap smear before I started treatment and I had forgotten you need to get it two weeks after your period starts so I am just wanting for it to start so I can get the smear, I also need to get some overdue dental X-rays and just need to confirm I am not pregnant (which I feel sure I am sure).

I did recently meet a lovely lady who had her first baby after her 40s (got pregnant at 50, naturally) so that was amazing!

We used to say chocolate boobs on this thread! I miss it!

Love and chocolate

Hey Keziah, thanks for the tip on where to sell my drugs. I've sold them all now which is great. Re what did I do differently for the cycle that worked - you know it was my first cycle that worked don't you. This was a spontaneous pregnancy. Anyway, I was a bit more committed to acupuncture with my first cycle, had it quite a few times before we'd even started. In both cycles we laughed A LOT which I think helped, even when it didn't work. And the first one was in the summer, which for me was good. Got plenty of vitamin D and generally I'm happier in the summer months. I probably exercised more and harder in my first cycle so I don't think that made a difference to me. I think it's pretty random though and just down to luck. Or bad luck when it doesn't work. I hope that helps and I'm sorry I can't offer any better insight. Good luck OK...

Italian- its my own fault really- as DH keeps pointing out!!!!

When the nurse found out that I worked at the hospital where I am having treatment she asked me if I had a good idea what I was doing and APPARENTLY I said 'yes its fine' all grinny and happy!!! I do not remember this conversation but DH assures me it happened and it does sound like something I would do.

Tamtorie ha ha oh well, at least you are working it all out! All the best.

Hugs to all.

I think this is lovely. If any of us get up duffed, this is something cute (maybe not for all).

This is probably my favourite

www.wonderlandfaceart.co.uk/services/bump-painting/

here

But the pink carousal horse is very nice too.

damncoolpics.blogspot.com/2007/05/pregnant-belly-painting-art.html

here

Really don't like the Alice Cooper one, the worm in the apple and the baseball ones! But like the peacock a bit too.

Do you think anyone would paint my chocolate belly!

I am busy reading books like mad. I am going to get to the bottom of this! I was a bit OCD as a teenager (obsessive compulsive disorder) but not overweight at all. In my twenties I stopped the OCD (pretty much but started putting on weight). So one theory (of mine) is that I have swapped OCD for compulsive eating! I have noticed I kind of have to finish food, and even if it is opened and in fringe (chocs etc) I can't leave it until it is all gone! I think exploding this and reading about it is making it worse as I feel I am almost giving myself permission to eat more! But I also hope this is a good sign that I am getting to the bottom of it.

If you are a pray-er, please shoot up a quick prayer that I will get to the bottom of my problems with food!

My DD often talks about my weight and says things about me being big but getting smaller. It makes me sad because the reality is I am just going up and down, three on, three off etc! Anyway, any thoughts will be received with delight!

Thanks, and hugs.

OOOOHHH sorry, best one, the stork, OK this is the last

www.gigll.co.uk/listing/baby_bump_painting_for_pregnancy_baby_showers_gestational.html

here

Italian - have you thoughtabout a short course of cbt to help you with food, it is meant to be good. I have not had food issues, but struggle with my wait, so off again to slimming world to get my bmi as near to 25 as possible - managed 28 on ivf cycle.

Well have decided I will not increase my hours at work, need to have meeting next week to sort it out. May take on more responsibility again with colleague pregnant (am a teacher!!!) or do exam marking next year on top of what I do. Have decided I can't cope with being in hospital with infections and stress of work increasing.

Also - have an apt booked for July for Immune test things, so that is the next real count down, and time to do some exercise and so on!!

Hi ladies

Tortie You really do make me laugh! Glad you're getting to grips with the injections, how are they making you feel? Lots of love xxx

Italian sometimes you have to really look into things before you can see a way forward, and it sounds like you're doing just that. Have you tried some relaxation techniques so that when you manage to say no to finishing food you can try to make yourself relax? I border on being OCD myself, and find it almost impossible to not straighten something if someone puts something crooked, eg a bank note into a till. I have to hold myself back and it's a horrible feeling. Sometimes you just have to let go though, and tell yourself you're being silly - it seems to help slightly for me!

Keziah I don't really know anything about your situation, but I think you have definately made the right decision - you must put your health before anything else.

Okay, I have a question - if someone took 5000 U.I. of pregnyl, had IUI 36 hours later, and got a faint line on an HPT 9 days after the pregnyl shot, it would probably be the residue of the pregnyl, would it not? Just wondering (But please somebody answer me soon or I might go mad )

Keziah well done for making the decision about work. I agree with Monkey* and others, health comes first!

If anyone wants to join the debate about food and weight but not hijack this thread then I have started another thread on that topic

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1191480-Anyone-struggling-with-compulsive-ways-of-eating-Anyone-getting-any-answers?msgid=24820095#24820095

here

But Monkey will just reply to you - yes, I so much know about things being straight etc. As a teenager I was terrible, the fringe on the lamps had to be straight etc, the bed pushed right up to the wall, even my teddies in a line as a kid! Yes, I agree you need to kind of fight it. I think sometimes that if you give in to it then you think where will it end! It is not really a problem for me anymore but I do wonder as my attitude to food is really odd. Today was at a friend?s house with a buffet laid out and I was the last to eat! I almost hoovered up the table!

Monkey- have you tested again??

I think I have seen somewhere that it takes a while to clear the HCG from your system...

www.babyhopes.com/articles/hcgshot.html

Fingers crossed xxxx

Thanks tortie that's very interesting... I have tested again, and it was slightly bolder but still squintingly faint. Could absolutely be down to the hcg left from the trigger shot. I have hardly drunk anything today, so it could be that it was more concentrate than yesterdays... Will test again tomorrow, will be 10 days after shot then.

How are you getting on?

Still injecting, still going swimmingly, still waiting for clinic to phone back

Baseline scan is on 2nd may so have got a couple of weeks before this whole thing escalates.

Your test sounds hopeful!! I have everything crossed.....

Xxx

Hi all, hope I can join you, i've been looking for this kind of thread. Have 1 dd (14 months) from 1st round of IVF with ICSI and just started microgynon for round 2. It went so smoothly last time, that i'm so scared that it won't work this time, but statistically, the chances aren't any better or worse than last time...just nice to have a thread to read and share all with you. Sorry, i probably won;t be reading the last THOUSAND posts on this thread to catch up (!!!) but i lok forward to sharing a bit of all your journeys.

On another note, egg collection date is identical to with DD so if this one is successful they may share the same birthday, perhaps giving the public impression that we only do it once a year. Got to laugh