Assisted Conception (and the bits in between) Volume 6

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Hi all,
I just went to post on the old thread and noticed it had been locked, so here is a new one!
Come on in!

Sorry to hear the news MM, that is heartbreaking.

But congrats to Cerubina! That makes another set of twins from Guy's! Which nurse scanned you? I had Debbie, who was v sweet and v matter of fact about it all (although she did tell off the H for saying that his life was over - 'I'm sure you mean, your life as you know it is over', with a v stern face ).

Good luck Lissy. I ended up with 6 eggs, which I was so disappointed about, but here 2 of them still are at 15 weeks!

Lissy so you've got a couple more days for extra growth - make sure you consume lots of protein and drink lots of water, think nourishing thoughts and see where you get to! But 6 follies doesn't sound bad, I know we all want tons but I think there is comfort and wisdom in what LL says about it being easier to pick the good ones if there is a smaller pool to choose from.

Horton best of best of best of BEST of luck for this morning. Thinking of you.

Italian way to go on the weight loss! Well done you. Slow and steady wins the race, I would say keep focusing on eating well each week and don't think too much about the ultimate goal but what you want to achieve today/tomorrow/this week etc, which is less intimidating. You've got off to a great start.

Penguin thanks for dropping in! It was Angela who scanned me, she was very nice and didn't keep us in suspense at all, which was just as well as the pair of us were absolutely petrified. Your husband really said the wrong thing!

Hi Newbishad and welcome. Sorry you have had such a crap couple of days and the clinic didn't seem to be communicating well with you. I suppose they wanted to be sure they didn't give you overly pessimistic or optimistic news until they knew how the thawing went, but it doesn't help when you're on the edge of your seat and stressing. I am a bit of a fan of positive visualisation and did it after my ET - can you try to take a few minutes when you wake up and when you go to sleep each day just to clear your mind of other thoughts and just imagine your embie implanting and growing stronger, dividing and growing? Repeat positive words to yourself like "fertile", "receptive", "healthy" and "pregnant" and so on - I found it very calming and liked feeling that I was doing something to try and make it all work out. Could be mumbo jumbo but I think it is well worth a try.

Dachshund how is the 2WW going so far? I found the first week flew by very quickly and it was easy to distract myself (the second week much less so!) So I hope you are not finding it too stressful yet. Good luck.

We are back to see the m/c specialist tonight and get scanned/re-tested again to make sure he is happy with the treatment. Cue lots of worry that perhaps something has gone wrong in the last week!

Hope everyone else is well.

Hi all,

Thank you for your thoughts Cerubina. That is just what I have been doing. It took me a while to get into the swing of things, but once I got over the shock I have managed. It's partly been caused by my having developed no coping mechanisims to manage problems in a cycle. My last one was text book (resulting in DD,now in front of Clifford). Having said all that I am someone who copes better with people being straightforward and that is definately what didn't happen at the clinic.

How are you feeling yourself. Double sickness!!!!

Thinking of you Horton, testing today!!! Best of luck.

Londonlottie. Thanks also for sharing your story. I was lurking on the sight last year and I read about your fantastic news. Good to hear from you again!

Newbishad

London, Penguin, Cerubina, Horton, and Italian--Thanks so much for the words of encouragement, it means a lot to me. I guess this second cycle is a bit more pressure for me, as our parents paid for it, and I'm scared that because there is such a difference from the last cycle....well, you know.

Horton--GOOD LUCK!!! I really hope there's loads of sticky baby dust going on.

Newbi--Sorry to read about how shoddily your FC treated you. You'd think, given such a sensitive matter, they would have handled it more sensitively!

Waves and hugs to everyone else. Scan tomorrow morning...

Lissysilver,

My mother paid for our cycle too. The first was a gift. The second is a loan. I know the stress when someone else has funded it. I, myself felt a bit guilty about it even though Mum offered. There is nothing we could do about it, though because we are not eligeble for NHS funding. Your parents probably really want to do something to help! Goodluck for your scan tomorrow. Having been a lurker here for a number of years, I can see the important bit is whether embies stick or not, rather than what went on before. As a friend said to me, it only takes one!!!

Londonlottie: Thanks for your advice. It was good to talk to you after all this time. Now I am trying to put your advice into practice. I am a bit board as I am on holiday right now, at home (Mum's house) with not much money to go out and coming down from all the hype on Tuesday.

Love Newbishad

My test was negative. Ah well. Onwards and upwards.

Ah Horton. So sorry to hear that. Hope you are not feeling too blue, but I know it must be a disappointment. Take it easy tomorrow and over the weekend. Sorry there is nothing useful we can say. xx

horton that sucks. so sorry.

Very sorry as well, Horton. I well understand the disappointment. Cerubina is right. Take it easy and look after youself.

Newbishad

I'm not too bad, thanks. I knew I wasn't pregnant. I could tell. But given our fabulous fertilisation rates, I'm now thinking the problem lies with implantation. I need to talk to the doctors about this before we try again.

Hello guys,

still lurking am now 16 weeks still not quite believing that my bump has two little beans growing. I am still holding out for my 20 weeks scan until I can relax and accept that this is actually going to happen (sounds crazy I know).

MM I am so sorry for your loss, there is nothing I can say that will lessen the emptiness or pain, but I hope in time it will lessen . Thinking of you a lot and hoping that as the little one grows it will lessen the pain. Take care of yourself. I am still living in fear before each scan/check up.

Cerubina congratulations - keep safe and sleep lots

Lissy - good luck

Horton - fingers crossed, I didn't feel at all pg after my IVF, although on my first pregnancy (which ended in mc) I felt so sick before my AF so you never can tell!

Dachshunds Good luck on your 2ww. I had really bad cramps around the stimulation time and I think it was even worse than when I had the stimulation for the IVF.

Good luck everyone and keep your fingers crossed for me over the next 4 weeks

cerubina it's not been too bad so far this week - very busy at work.

next week will be a complete nightmare though - i hate waiting for stuff, so I feel a bit sorry for DH as I suspect I'll get really grumpy and take it out on him!

sorry you had a bfn horton

take care and good luck everyone!

Thanks for that, lottie. Yes, they monitored my endometrium and it has been pronounced 'perfect' a day or two before transfer on both cycles. We've just done two so far. But they have scanned and scanned me - think I had five or six scans each time over the two weeks of stimulation which seems a decent amount. And each time every egg has fertilised (some by two sperm therefore unusable) so obviously not a lot wrong at that stage. Plus I have produced a normal amount of eggs for the amount of stimulation I've had, according to the doctors. It really does seem like implantation is the hurdle. Will be asking about steroids etc, I think.

Hi there,

Just dropped in to give Horton a hug xxxx

Night all!

Ah, thank you, you lovely chocwoman, you!

Very sorry to hear your news, Horton. Steroids might well be the key. x

Just wanted to pop in and say congratulations to Cerubina and hugs to Horton. I have missed so much news on here.

Hi to anyone who remembers me, I am now 6 months and well. My SIL who has been trying for more than 8 years recently had her second IVF and is now about 15 weeks pregnant, I am so pleased for her.

x

Horton so sorry. I know there are really no words but I am thinking of you, sweetie.

Thanks for the welcomes and feedback - I guess I'll have to wait and see what dose they start me on next month.

So sorry to hear of your negative Horton. I hope you get some good information at your next appointment so they can address any implantation issues.

Hello Ladies
Can I join you? I'm having my first consultation at the Lister in October. I'm trying to be positive about it (I usually am about most things) but I'm feeling a bit worn down by all this.
Been TTC for almost 2 years....not long really but I am 41. I've gone from being happy-go-lucky-see-how-it-goes last year to peeing on every stick I can find, taking cough mixture for thinner CM, agnus castus, supplements, I'm having acupuncture......argh, help!
I am now obsessed. I feel twinges all the time and look for 'signs' every time I go to the loo.....Have you been through this and did you manage to get a grip and let go a bit? If so how?
I've had most tests and everything has come back fine. So has the husband.
I need to stress free if I start IVF soon but I'm not sure how I can be.
Tips and wisdom please.
Thanks x

Hi all,
sorry to have been AWOL.

Horton, so sorry to hear about the negative. It's so empty when that happens, difficult to know what to do. It sounds as if you are focussing on fixing the problem, which is a positive thing to do and keeps you looking ahead.
Take a bit of time for yourself though and your DH. Do a bit of shopping, go for lunch or just watch black and white films, whatever helps you.
I do really feel for you, have been there a number of times. hug

Italian - what was that about starting the drugs?? Already? How are you feeling about it all?

Singsong hi there. Tricky one, but I do find breathing exercises help. My last FET was very rushed and a bit frantic and breathing exercises force helped me to slow down and not get flustered and emotional.
We have been TTC for around four years and have been through the whole testing followed by depression followed by herbal supplements, head stands etc...
I think in some ways IVF is less stressful because it isn't so much in your hands, so less frantic timing of sex and worrying.

Dueling, me, I remember you. Congrats on passing the half-way mark!

Waves to all, sorry if I haven't 'spoken' to everyone. It's always a bit tricky when you have been away everyone has been so chatty.