Having difficulties ttc#2?

[Lychees]

After chatting on another thread, I've discovered that quite a few of us are having trouble ttc#2.

It's difficult to find much support in RL; people tell you that you should be happy as you already have a DC [I really am!] and unless they've been there, they don't really understand why it's so upsetting not to be able to get pregnant again so I've created this thread so we can share and we have a place that we can rant/vent/moan/support each other......

Sorry for the unimaginitive title ... marketing is not my area of expertise !

FYI, I'm 36, DH is 38, we have DS who is just over two and a half and we have been ttc#2 for 13 months.

We have had bloods and SA on the NHS and an internal scan and AMH privately and so far, our status is unexplained sub-fertility. If I don't get my BFP this time, next month we'll be having another SA and HSG privately.

Welcome hipsterchick, of course, you are welcome to hang here ..... and rant and rave and all the rest.

Lilysma, for some reason I thought it was Thursday yesterday [wishful thinking!]. Good luck for Friday, hun.

Points, I've lost hope, too. I can't imagine that it will happen naturally for me now. I'm just saving like mad for private treatment.

Luce, I would imagine the whole ttc does get our DP/DHs down, too although they're not as good at expressing themselves [if you call sobbing, with snot running down your face, puffy eyes, going "why duh bluh uh ....... argh!", expressing yourself ].

Hello everyone else, I haven't name-dropped.

Luce - mine does exactly the same, one month he wanted me to put the days on a calendar for him I knew that would have the opposite effect!!

Lychees - yes i've heard The Lister is very good although i think slightly more expensive due to high success rates.

Good luck Points!

More accupuncture this afternoon! Not sure how much more i can afford!

Hello girls!!!
hipsterchick welcome!!!! Feel free to rant as much as you like on here!!

well I got my prolactie results and as I was expecting, the results were wuite high.
Had the appointment with the consultant this afternoon...Was VERY QUICK On the letter I got it said it could last up to 3 hours and there were scans involved and other stuff...well he took our details asked how often we have sex and other stuff and then said : looking at your profile and the results of your tests, you are clearly NOT OVULATING so I'm putting you on clomid and I'll see you in 5 months time but I'm sure ther'll be no need.
Soooooo, IF the stupid GP had listen to me when I kept telling her that my periods were too weird and that i was sure I wasn't ovulating, I could have probably had this appointment weeks ago and started Clomid earlier
so my advice is : keep pestering the Dr till they send you to see a consultant!!!

Glad that you're getting some treatment Luce. Hope it works and you get your BFP.

luce good news that you finally got someone to take you seriously and give you the treatment you are entitled to.

choccie I used to do acupuncture as well but taking a break as it's just got too expensive with the amount of time we are taking.

Anyway my news of today is that I stupidly tested at 9dpo and of course it was BFN. Stupid to test so early and stupid to think it would ever have been positive. 12 months trying with DS, 17 months so far for No.2 - in 29 months I have only ever had one positive and I am still unexplained fertility? Why is it so hard for us and so easy for others - what is different for them?

Hi everyone

Ok if I join in? I have a 2 year old dd and have been trying for the last 18 months with no success. Dd was conceived really quickly so thought this would happen 2nd time round. Not been to docs yet but going to book appt for next wk as AF have been all over the place for the last year.

Fingers crossed for everyone x

Hi MercyMe, of course you can join us but hopefully, it won't be for too long [for the right reasons]. Good luck at your DR's next week.

I'm praying for a flurry of BFP's on here .. it's about time we had lots of good news on here, isn't it Ladies?

Thanks for the good wishes everyone. Saw GP this morning and she is going to refer me to the Early Pregnancy Assessment Unit next week sometime (there's no point before 6 weeks apparently as they won't be able to see where the fetal pole is). Cramps are continuing but no spotting...

Took the bold step of cancelling my private fertility treatment appt booked for tuesday .

Have got myself in a state about whether or not to keep taking my Vit B complex though! I'm sure it helped get the BFP but the info 'out there' on whether to keep taking it is very contradictory. I guess it is acting as a focus for all my anxieties...

I hope you don't mind me carrying on posting here. I don't really feel like a graduate yet as everything is so tentative.

Welcome MercyMe and Hipsterchick.

Luce I second others that it's great you have finally been listened to. How frustrating for you that it has taken so long though . Hope it works out really quickly now. Keeping everything crossed!

Ok. Gulp. I am going to post.

Only really been trying for 3 months which hardly counts. But knackered from work and of course gorgeous 15mo DD. And DH working v hard so didn' t feel it was fair to 'pressure' when in fertile window last month so defo not pregnant.Am 34 and took about 8mo to conceive nr 1. Aware of age and career in a good place at mo.

Here are my practical questions and sorry if tmi:

1. I think I know when ovulating but sometimes only 10 days or so till AF- is that too short?Seriously don' t want to start monitoring etc.
2. How often or round about when do you have s#x when ?fertile. Life/work/shifts makes regular 'activity' bit tricky
3. Any success with proseed or such like? Sometimes need KY but worried it is bad for sperm

Sympaties with everyone facing the 'askers' re next pregnancy. People bugging me already though I am v aware that it is not a given.

Hope you are having some luck ladies.

Hi pugh. I think anything less than 10 DPO is considered short but not impossible. 10 days+, you should be fine.

I chart my temperatures as I like the knowledge and so DP and i time sex (or SWI) just beore ov. I check my cervical fluid and once it goes like egg white, we start SWI every night till i ov. i know it can be hard to fit in, we vave 2 yr old DD.

Hi pugh I think KY is definitely bad for sperm so you should use something like proseed - I've used it in the past - it hasn't helped me conceive but it won't prevent you conceiving like KY jelly.

I use a clear blue fertility monitor, fertility awareness method - where I check my cervical mucus and I also chart because I'm not obsessed or anything like that!

I would definitely try to pinpoint your ovulation first by charting before worrying about your luteal phase but as mrsarch says anything above 10 days is considered normal. A lot of people seem to have found taking Vit B complex successful in lengthening the luteal phase if you think this is a problem for you.

If you are 35+ you can go to the GP to run tests after 6 months of trying.

Hi all

Just wanted to say what a big help it was finding this thread, posting and getting a welcome - at least I'm not alone, although , to vaguely paraphrase Groucho Marx (or was it Oscar Wilde)- we're all in a club we wish we weren't a member of. (ok that's not even vaguely a paraphrase but I hope you get the gist!) Off north for a few days for DP's father's funeral (this week has sucked), just wanted to send graduation luck to Lilysma - i feel for you - and say hi to fellow newbies mercyme and pugh too. Pugh I know exactly what you mean about difficulty of "regular activity" one month I got a smiley on a digital ov. test and fell asleep two nights running before anything could occur and with busy work schedules, it being midweek and all, and DS still pottering through early mornings that was that!

hi all

can i join in.....I am 32 and have a 12yr old DD and have been trying to conceive for the last 6yrs for DC2 and am now on the fourth round of clomid 100 mg......

i have been diagnosed with PCOs and am not ovulating but my cycle is prety much regular...

Any help and support is most welcome

Welcome Nonu, of course, you can join us.

Hello everyone else.

AF arrived this morning so it's on to cycle 17 for us .

poor you lychees. I am 13 dpo now, tested today and it was BFN so am just waiting for AF to start, having lots of cramps today and temps are down. My next cycle will be no.17 as well! But I have been quite stressed and down this cycle and most of that has been resolved so I'm hoping that it will be lucky for me next month as I will be in a better frame of mind.

Nonu - 6 years is a long time - I hope you get some luck with the clomid, how long did it take for you to get diagnosed?

Anyone got a wet fish? Am i allowed to use it on an insensitive pregnant friend?? Tagging me into a photo of her 25week bump for baby number 2... She knows about my numerous failures and it took her 2.5years to concieve this one!! You think she would have been more sensitive

I feel like crying

This calls for something massive, Panda. How about a sea bass!?!

Why did she do that?!?

Frozen sea-bass?

Sorry to butt in, been lurking for a while, ttc No2 for 2.5 years, including a mmc, so have theoretically proved it can be done! Just have to get another bfp and make it stick this time!

Don't worry about crying Panda, you will be in good company!

I have just peeped aboard the latest bus and they are all on cycle 1-3 bless them! Definitely not going back on there!

lychees The only answer i can come up with is simply shes a bitch i will get a nice sea bass-blue whale hybrid and flatten her with that feel better already!!

umbongo im a 3+ year TTCer with 7mcs under my belt... I have little problem getting pregnant...it is staying that way that is proving somewhat a challenge! It is crappy but someone has to sit in my/our chair...

Sorry meant to say hi and welcome in there too hope your wait is not a long one umbongo

pointsmakeprizes, we just werent trying very seriously in the beginning as werent very sure if wanted DC2 but then by the time we were serious just nothing was happening and so many stressful issues were on our mind, never thought of getting any medical advice, hence the delay......

panda that is so out of order, who does that? You are right she is a complete bitch who should know better as she knows what it feels like to take so long to conceive no.2. I would like a whole delivery of frozen catfish to be dropped on her head.

umbongo i remember you from some of the buses, I used to be on them but got fed up with people coming on and getting their bfp within a week of joining or the ones who join only after they get their bfp - wtf is that all about - just come on to rub it in? I'm sorry to hear about your mc and hope you get another bfp soon enough.

nonu time just goes by and you keep thinking it will happen naturally when you least think about it, etc but at least you have proper help now.

Panda your friend is obviously a self centre cow and should get together with one of my friends who is similarly selfish. She (and a couple of other friends) came round on Friday eve, she's pg and due almost exactly when I would have been had I not had mc, she monopolised the conversation and talked about herself, her pregnancy and her baby all evening and she knows about my mc. I've decided not to invest any more energy in my friendship with her!

Hi everyone else, I haven't posted on this thread for a while, I'm still trying and failing to get pg and it'll be 2 years of trying at Xmas. I'm now 38 and starting to worry that I'm getting too old.

Grumpy and Panda, sorry about your selfish mates - it is amazing how people you think should care can be so effing insensitive, isn't it? We need to start getting joblots of cheapo fish like cheapo pregnancy tests off the net, just so we have them handy .

Welcome Nonu - though it feels a bit wierd saying that from my in-between, not quite graduate place...

Well, I have a scan tomorrow morning (arranged today as have had previous ectopic) and am in complete rabbit in the headlights paralysis and fear. Will let you know the verdit...

Good luck lily

grumpy i have a work friend exactly the same and she is due about 2weeks after my MC was due! As is, funnily enough, my other friend im rising above (and jumping DHs bones) today