Having difficulties ttc#2?

[Lychees]

After chatting on another thread, I've discovered that quite a few of us are having trouble ttc#2.

It's difficult to find much support in RL; people tell you that you should be happy as you already have a DC [I really am!] and unless they've been there, they don't really understand why it's so upsetting not to be able to get pregnant again so I've created this thread so we can share and we have a place that we can rant/vent/moan/support each other......

Sorry for the unimaginitive title ... marketing is not my area of expertise !

FYI, I'm 36, DH is 38, we have DS who is just over two and a half and we have been ttc#2 for 13 months.

We have had bloods and SA on the NHS and an internal scan and AMH privately and so far, our status is unexplained sub-fertility. If I don't get my BFP this time, next month we'll be having another SA and HSG privately.

thanks piglet! We haven't quite given up - will certainly keep trying anyway. :)

lily big congratulations to you, good that you came back to let us know what was happening with you.

Welcome to the new ladies, we share and understand your frustrations. I have had counselling, it definitely helped me to put things in perspective so I would definitely recommend it.

Having said that had another bad day today where I was just generally in a horrible mood and not very nice to my DH or my lovely little DS, must make it up to them tomorrow.

Hello all, just popped by to see how everyone is doing. Still no news here. Defo not ovulated this month. Roll on the next.

Dont think that I am ovulating any month and those predictor things are a waste of time. Ovulation is not an exact science, as the body can ovulate at different times or not at all on some cycles. how do you know if you are not ovulating.

Thanks Points. Not sure that congrats are necessarily in order as I am still cramping and have backache . Had bad cramps in the night and was sure AF was going to show but then nothing. Still BFP and temp up this morning. It is a rollercoaster ATM. Will keep you posted.

Hope you are all doing some nice things for yourselves. It seems like this is the only thing we can do in this situation.

Fingers crossed to lilysma.

Do you think we should have our own Mylene shaped fish? My friend sees her in her local park with her daughter.

Good news for Kym Marsh though after all the pain she must have been through last year. Fingers crossed it all works out for her.

lilysma - good luck, hope it "sticks".

Thanks everyone.

IMHO Mylene deserves her own fish just for being Mylene

Keeping my fingers crossed for you, Lilysma.

hi ladies. Been lurking for a while but not posted yet. DD is 2.2 and we've been TTC No2 since the summer, so not very long I know, but it took us a year to conceive DD and I'm on the old side (38.5), so am expecting a long wait (but hoping for a miracle!)

Just to answer your post about how you know about ovulation piglet, I highly recommend taking your waking temperature and recodring it on fertilityfriend.com. The only way you can be sure you have ovulated is if you get a sustained temperature increase post ov. Everything else, as I've learnt is just indicators your body is trying to ov.
Since charting, I have discovered my body ov much later than I thought.

Anyway, that may or may not be of any use but I've learnt alot about my body since starting to chart.
Just saying hello really :)

Oh and i can't stand the queen of smugness Myleene Klass

hi ladies

well AF arrived...over a week late with bells on on friday so im looking at cycle 37 day 3 or so now... i dont think i oved last cycle as that is usually when i have long cycles! ahh well...

welcome to the newcomers

congrats lily

hope everyone is in good spirits (39 days til christmas) or at least planning to drink some im planning a very boozy weekend around OV time and i am going to ravish DH ALOT and often give it good wellie and get a xmas BFP??...maybe...

Sorry about AF panda. Do you chart?

Having a funny day today - just don't know how to deal with the ongoing uncertainty about whether the bean will stay or not. I know its always like that for the first 3 months but this is more extreme. Was completely convinced I was bleeding in Asda today but nothing appeared. It's hard to concentrate on anything and hard not to get my hopes up...

lily have you been to the GP yet? i would say get an appointment and see about an early scan. if your dr is sympathetic he/she should agree (failing that...go to the EPAU and adv of strong pains and they should scan you...naughty but needs must)

i have my fingers and toes crossed for you (not my legs for obvious reasons) and i really hope things work out for you

i used to chart but i stopped as my sanity was being affected and i have an ovarian cyst which can effect the temps etc. i can feel my ov usually anyway so not that necessary for me

Sorry about AF's arrival, Panda. My body tricked me last month, too .

Lilysma, how are you doing, hun?

Hi to all the newbies.

We are still bd'ing every other day despite getting my peak on my CBFM about 11 days ago. Do you think we've covered all possibilities by now? I feel like a walking sperm bank .

Well AF got me on Sunday morning

What an absolute bummer, i'm well and truly fed up with it all now after 12 months, i can't even imagine i'll ever get pregnant again!

I got my 21 day bloods back today and progesterone levels were at 47 which i think seems quite normal,they were done 9 days after OV so might have been higher if done 7 days after. I'm not sure if this is good or bad though as if there was something wrong at least it would be an answer as to why things haven't happened yet

Does anyone know what happens next in terms of more tests?

Choccie, sorry AF got you.

My progesterone levels came back as 23 which was low but even so my GP and my private consultant thought that I was most probably ovulating ... I'm still worried that I'm not.

TBH, after that, my GP seemed reluctant to help any more because we already have DS so in my frustration with the usual "go away and try for a bit longer" advice ... I went private and had a AMH and HSG done [to check egg reserve and to make sure my tubes were clear].

Normally all your GP can do is bloods and SA then they should refer you to the FC for further testing.

Can i ask which FC you used?

Hi everyone. Sorry about AF Choccie. I know how you feel about not being able to imagine getting pregnant . Now that I am, I can't imagine it will last...

In terms of tests I had an HSG as have had a previous ectopic as well as the routine bloods you describe. And DH had a sperm test obviously. They didn't do any more as they decided the problem is with my tubes - one is blocked though DD came down the other no probs!

Not much change here. Cramps were better yesterday and this morning and now back this afternoon. Still no bleeding though. Temp was a bit down this morning (well quite a lot actually, which made me terrified, but I did wake up at 5 and not take it until 7 after failing to go to sleep, so I'm filing it under 'f**ed up' .

I'm going to see the GP on Fri and will ask for an EPAU referral based on previous ectopic. If that doesn't work will go to the EPAU and sob .

Lychees pmsl at the walking sperm bank image . Yes, I think you've done enough!

Choccie, I went to the Lister in London. Thinking of going back in Jan for more advice/to discuss possible options [and how much they'll cost us ] ... it'll be 18 months by then.

Lilysma, good luck for tomorrow.

Choccie and Lychees your day 2 test results are high compared to mine!!!! I had it done twice and the results were 1 and 3!!!

lilysma good luck for tomorrow!!!
Lychees love the sperm bank image!!!LOL At least you manage to have sex!! My DH is just a F**G brat! he's the one who tells me to let him know when the ( Alledged ) right days are and when it comes he'll come up with 'I'm not feeling well' or 'can we missed tonight and do it tomorrow'.... but then when I get angry and question him about him wanting another child he'll say that yes, he does want another one
I just feel like killing him most of the time!!!

panda and choccie in the words of my DS I say "YUK!" to AF.

Can't believe i am on 7dpo now - trying to see if I can hold out until til this weekend to test. Think I've lost all hope anyway so feel like I can't even be bothered anymore, month after month of knockbacks.

luce that's so annoying about your DH, but sometimes we are so focused with our own bodies we forget how the other half is feeling. Must be difficult for them as the time passes and they probably start to feel helpless. My DH still tries to stay optimistic for us, everytime i ask him whether he thinks we managed it this month he says 'why not, it's about bloody time it's our time'.

let us know how you get on lily, I'm sure everything will be fine, you deserve some good luck and it's your turn.

Hi everyone. Hope you are open to newbie's I'm feeling really alone at the momemt - been TTC no2 for over a year, 41 next month, just had an ovarian scan (only 10 follicles ,not at all great). Have not ovulated this month, my youbger sister who i don't get on with is preg with No2 and to top it all DH (well DP if you use that not married) is 100s of miles away with his dying father while DS aged 4 and 1/2 seems to have intuited everything and is asking me about death and babies (lack of).Can I hang here?It's such a relief to hear about other people hating "the askers at work" (practically daily). Also I haven't been out socially really for last 6 months due to not smoking/drinking and hating being quizzed about why or people jumping to the (sadly) wrong conclusion. Sorry to vent on very first post - just feel no-one in my life understands what I'm going through!