Having difficulties ttc#2?

[Lychees]

After chatting on another thread, I've discovered that quite a few of us are having trouble ttc#2.

It's difficult to find much support in RL; people tell you that you should be happy as you already have a DC [I really am!] and unless they've been there, they don't really understand why it's so upsetting not to be able to get pregnant again so I've created this thread so we can share and we have a place that we can rant/vent/moan/support each other......

Sorry for the unimaginitive title ... marketing is not my area of expertise !

FYI, I'm 36, DH is 38, we have DS who is just over two and a half and we have been ttc#2 for 13 months.

We have had bloods and SA on the NHS and an internal scan and AMH privately and so far, our status is unexplained sub-fertility. If I don't get my BFP this time, next month we'll be having another SA and HSG privately.

No, still no sodding peak . I'm thinking I might drown myself in a bottle of wine tonight. Fire's lit, Lasagne and baked potatoes are in the oven so a nice bottle of red wouldn't go amiss. Hope all is well with everyone else. Good news on your peaks Lychees. Panda, you have an iron will....very impressed. Right I'm off to find a corkscrew.

Much better today lychees thanks for asking.
Peaks today again though am on CD 18 so hoping I will O today and it won't be a long cycle.

It's good to keep your options open and go back to the FC, we just have to take control of our fate sometimes.

I'm hoping there'll be lots of us having a big celebration this christmas too!

What cylce day are you on picture? Your evening sounds lovely with all the bad weather. I just had a beer with dinner, had a stir fry.

Evening everyone!

Points - i hadn't even thought about another Xmas and no BFP - i am just going to concentrate on the fact that i can drink and eat what i want and hope i can enjoy myself!

AF due on Saturday so who knows, i am really dreading getting AF this month as i can't face it yet again. Had bloods done on Monday so should get progesterone levels next week although it was 5 days before AF rather than 7 as 7 days fell on Saturday.

Panda - you're one strong lady!

We're visiting my parents this weekend so that will prevent me testing early

Found out my brother is expecting DD#3 and my cousin's wife [expecting #2 at about the same time] and my brother's girlfriend have been chatting about how they will have each other to have late night chats with while they're up doing feeds ... guess, it's only a club for the super-fertile. Barren people need not apply .

Sorry all. Was a feeling a little negative last night.

Feeling brighter and breezier today. I promise to be more positive [at least for a while].

Good luck, Choccie.

oh Lychees.....I know how you feel!! I've sort of given up after 16 cycles!!!I have NO confience at all in Dr at the moment after what has happened to em over the past 6 months.
I really wanted to ahve another baby next summer but it's not going to happen and I ten to get very depressed in Winter and the thought of having a Winter baby fills me with horror.Then I keep thinking about the age gap between S and a future baby....I wanted a 3 years gap maximum but it took me ages to convince DH to have a second child and when we finally started I was hoping in a 4 years gap. Now we are at the point where there would be a 5 years gap but taken into consideration how things are going I think it woul probaby be more of a 6 years gap by the time I finally manage to get pg an I'm not sure I want that
I've been debating if keeping the appointment next week with the consultant or cancelling it....I just can't see them giving me the help I need.
Sending you big hugs!!!!

ps; glad you're feeling a bit better today

Hey sweeties sending you all big hugs. Seems like you all need them.

Luce are you under Mr T at the hospital? I was (though hadn't seen him) but have heard lots of good things about him. Well I still am under him if this all doesn't work out.

I think you have to keep your eye on the prize its really shit and nothing can make you feel better at some times of the month (especially). But am lucky that DH is as desperate as me to have another one so when I felt like giving up he wouldn't let me.

hi all.. have been lurking on here on and off.. am trying not to even count what day i am on and must say it has been a lot more relaxing.... am mainly on the assisted conception board as we are most likely to start ivf in dec...

oh and after the fourth comment at DD's daycare about lack of sibling for our DD, and what a good sister she would make... (even after me saying openly we cant have any more at the moment...) it all became too much and OH went up and complained. it really beggars belief how insensitive some people can be. four times is 3 times too often...

good luck all!

late that's dreadful that some people are so ignorant they can't even imagine that babies don't arrive on demand

luce saw your thread about prolactin levels, could the receptionist have passed on and misinterpreted a message from the nurse? The receptionist isn't actually allowed to give out any details, really they are meant to put you through to a nurse or doctor to give any results. If it was a prolactin of zero, I don't think there would be any harmful results of it, normal is range is just for prolactin to be below 80 i think, don't quote me on it!

lychees some people really know how to rub it in don't they? Why does EVERYONE seems to be pregnant except us?!

Currently, I'm feeling very peeved at all the pregnant celebs that seem to be announcing their news daily. Really wish they would all go away and stop bugging me, yes you know you are Mylene bloody Klass

I know what you mean littleshamrock every bloody celeb as well as all my friends seems to be pregnant or with newborn. It is doing my head in also!

afternoon ladies

so i started spotting last night but this morning...no heavier i dont know what to think...still havent tested though

i have ordered a few tests from ebay though...we will see what happens but i do thisnk this may be AF turning up fashionably late

littleshamrock the receptionist I saw today said the same thing, Macro-Prolactin not detected.
I had a quick look and it appears to be an inactive form of prolactin found in a small proportion of people so now I'm even more confused.com!!!
Panda keeping all my fingers and toes crossed for you!!!!!

hi ladies

so AF still not here there has been nothing since the spotting a few days ago and i did a test last night and BFN so i dunno prob just a long month for me!

hope everyone is ok

Still keeping my fingers crossed for you panda.

lychees and late i have saved some fish for you, people just have no idea of how comments can hurt. They must just think we are just selfish for not having another one, doesn't cross their minds that we are desperately trying and crying out eyes out every month.

shamrock I really couldn't stand Mylene Klass before but it's like she's shoving her pregnancy in everyone's faces at every opportunity - particularly as she claims to have taken 18 months to conceive this one you'd think she would be a bit more sensitive. Only a few days ago she was sympathising very publicly about Lily Allen - if she had any kind of sensitivy she would have done it in private and then a few days later she's harping on about the sex of her new baby - she's just a self absorbed muppet.

Hi everyone, I am officially 'on' this thread but haven't been around much recently due to trying not to think about TTC too much (mainly unsuccessfully!). So sorry to be self obsessed as I am not up to date with all of you .

Anyway, I got a BFP yesterday, CD 30, 16 DPO and its still positive this morning. Sounds like great news, but this has happened once before in the last 16 months of TTC no 2 and it ended after 1 day . At that time I had bad backache and crampy feelings (and started spotting the day after I got the BFP). This time I also have the backache and crampy feelings (which are like what I get premenstrually), though no spotting (yet). So I guess you can see why I'm in bits! Not sure if there's any hope or whether the backache means it's going to fail eventually...

Incidentally I have been taking Vit B complex for the last 3 months and last month was the first month I haven't had lots of premenstrual spotting (same this month). Makes me think it has had something to do with the pregnancy but now I am not sure whether I should continue taking it as I've read that it can cause problems with foetal development. Anyone know anything about this??

So again apologies for the selfishness and will try to be more present to catch up with you all.

Count me in, been ttc number 2 for about 18 months, had I MC last year. All around me people seem to be falling pg with number 2 or 3 when will they stop aghhhhh. I hate my body, one of my friends just announced she is having number 3, that tipped me over the edge and I eneded up punching my stomach till it was red. I hope that i havent damaged anything. I feel so hopeless, angry with my body and with people falling pg all over the place ahhhhhg I just want to cry.

Welcome pigletmania and sorry that you are feeling so bad. My last post was obviously not one calculated to make you feel any better so sorry for that . It is such a shitty feeling isn't it?

Have you considered having counselling? I actually haven't had any during this TTC time but have had it previously and it definitely helped me deal with my previous ectopic pregnancy. It's just a space to get out all those overwhelming feelings and hopefully would prevent you from hurting yourself again. I would have thought it highly unlikely that you damaged yourself - sounds like you just inflammed the skin - but its not a good place to be in, is it?

Oh not to worry lilysma, just how I am feeling at the moment, mabey I should consider it as its affecting me more than I thought that it would. Thanks for your great advice lilysma, I was going to post in AIBU but thought not too, I have posted there before and people were so supportive, but posting here where there are other people in the same boat as me is helping. Its really cathartic. I know that i should feel greatful for my beautiful and gorgeous dd i really do, but knowing that i might not have the opportunity to carry and hold another baby in my arms makes me . Having my dd really helps, and my heart goes out to those who cannot have any children. I guess i should be greatful that i at least have one, but cant help feeling a bit

I'm totally with you on all those feelings. And of course you're not being unreasonable to have them, it's such a hard thing. How old is your DD? Mine will be 4 next week so even if this preg works out it will be a big age gap .

What are you doing to take care of yourself and make peace with your body?

Have just noticed this in Active Convos and thought I might post.

DS is 3 in 2w time - we have been ttc for nearly 2y now, managed to fall pg last October but lost it just before Christmas; had a hopeful month last month but period was just a week late (which hasn't happened for I don't know how long, if ever).

I am Old though - 43.4 so my days are numbered. Haven't got around to assistance of any kind, not sure we want to go that route (are in Australia as well so a bit different here) and the bastard GP I saw after my MC told me that I should stop trying and be happy with just the one . I was a lot politer to him than I should have been.

hi lilysma my dd is 3.8 years. I am not sure I really dont know. I guess I will have to come to terms with the fact it might not happen. Congratulations btw, thats really good news, i mean it.

Oh thumbwitch my MC happened the same time, concieved last October and MC a couple of weeks before christmas, good timing. Dont you just hate it when people say that, you cant help those feelings. I did'nt know that you were in Australia Thumbwitch, thought you were UK based, dont know why but just did. I dont want to go down the assisted conception route, I am 33 so i guess i have a few years left to try, I am seeing my GP on Friday about it.

Hi all
Please can I join your thread? I am so lucky to have a beautiful DD who is 2.3 but have been TTC no.2 since Jan of this year. I, like a lot of you, get really peeved off everytime I get asked if we are going to have another one. At one point I didn't think that we would ever consider having any more, as when DD was just a few days old DH had a very bad episode of depression, I am pleased to say that all though he still suffers, it is under controll with the pills he takes, but it is always in the back of his mind, what will happen to us if he suffers the same way. I am positive that if we are ever successfull with conceiving no.2 that he will be just fine, I just need to convince him.

Anyway, I am sorry for all of you who have suffered MCs and ectopics etc. And I hope that everyone gets the BFP they so rightly deserve.

piglet - I post at the most ridiculous times so it's not immediately obvious where I am.:) For e.g. it is nearly 3am here and I should of course be in bed but am not tired yet.

I was lucky to get out of hospital before Christmas - had to go in for an extra HCG test on Christmas Eve, having got out 2 days previously, just to check that the levels were dropping properly (they were).

I forgot to add in my bastard GP said that given my age I should give up trying. How rude. But I fear he may have been right after all. :(

oh thumbwitch, well dont give up my mum was 42 when she had me, and also a freind of mine is 49 and has a 5 and 3 year old, there is hope.