We're not obsessing, we're Just Shagging! Part III

[BrassicaBabe]

The 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday. Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended)

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at ever opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Resist the lure of ovulation predictor kits, Taking Control of Your Fertility and the dreaded First Repsonse. Knowing where you are in your cycle is entirely permissible though!

Going to the doctor is permitted if you've had a stupidly long cycle but beware of the dildo-cam-scan.

Keep acronmyage to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Although all most of these rules are well and truely broken!! But we try to chill - honest

Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Shout if I've missed anyone.

Advice from part of a former life josie...Is the pain from inflammation around the wisdom tooth? Add a teaspoon of salt into a cup of hot (as hot as you can comfotably take it) and "hold" the hot salt water in your mouth over the sore tooth. Food can get trapped until the skin as the tooth trys to erupt. If so, this might help. Of course, it could be something totally different

Still a BFN then takethat? Me too. How many DPO are you? I'm 13 DPO today.

Ah-ha *nervous" you are now fully formed mental this month! Welcome to the ranks! And fingers crossed for you!

Thanks Brassica I will try that. I had an operation on a tooth years ago and had to swill hot salt water a few times a day so it makes sense that it would help this. Plus hot drinks don't hurt it at the minute, just cold ones.

No TakeThat I'm definitely not wiser! Not going to dentist just yet as they were x-rayed when the top ones started erupting and although they're coming through to the side slightly, unless they really hurt all the time or stop me eating he won't do anything about them, which is fine by me as I'm terrified of having anything done to my teeth! If it turns out to be infected I'll have to go but until them I'm sitting tight!

If you can keep the infection at bay then it might settle down and not give you any more problems josie

Oh Brassica thanks for that ! It's so soothing! Gonna try and do it every half hour (without people at work thinking I'm nuts!)

If I disappear it's because my work computer is playing up and sometimes it kicks me off, sometimes I'm allowed on but it won't type so I'm not ignoring anyone!

Well that has lifted my mood josie. Pleased I could help!

I'm having a panic about my day 22 blood test results... My Thread of Panic

Brassica I really don't know anything about it so can't help, but I hope someone can answer your query

sorry you're worrying brassica. I can't believe you didn't get any more information from your doc. hope you get a call soon.

Josie ouch! I hate toothache...

pmsl at nervous - honey is only a problem for newborns, not the pregnant mother-to-be - There's a risk of infant botulin or something. For headaches, you can take paracetamol when you are pregnant, but over here you are told to take NO other medicine at all, not even cough syrup. Trust me to still be ttc-ing just in time for winter...

Yep, still a BFN and no AF brassica. Don't know if I ovulated because my temps were ridiculously low both before and after pant snot, though they did go up by about 0.3 degrees.

Also, I stopped taking my temps as I had a low fever last week with a hideous cold. When I was trapped upstairs during the armchair/stairwell incident I took my temp because I felt like crap and it was 99.4, so it really wasn't going to be reliable.

Think I'm 14DPO or maybe even 15DPO. Last pant snot day was 2 weeks ago today.

That sounds ridiculous about your clomid treatment. Why did the woman on the phone even give you the details? And why would she assume you wouldn't want more information? Have you managed to get through to the doctor yet? Force your way brassicababe!

nervousnelly, loving the business idea. Sign me up for 100.

Brassica, it looks like you're getting some useful responses on your other thread. I hope the doctor gets his act together and you get some proper answers soon.
In fact I'm horrified at how lots of people seem to be treated by doctors on here. I've been a generally healthy person so haven't had dealings with the NHS for years, and am shocked at how little use medics seem to be when it comes to fertility/pregnancy/etc.

Nelly are you me?? Obv not as I'm not on holiday. I also had more bleeding this morning. Thought AF had decided to put in an appearance at last. But no more for the rest of the day. I think I need to sign up for those lolly-sticks.

BrassRubbings I have no idea about the results but I wanted to send virtual for the secretary who said she was 'putting the phone down' cheeky mare!

Nervous I'm definitely advising more than a single G&T tonight, you sound like you need it love! I'm wondering if this time next week I will be going curayzee as I'll be expecting AF any day

Evening one and all,

It is only Wed, but I have already had a glass of wine. My DH is at rugby and I have a list of things to do. So, of course, I'm slightly tipsy and on MN!! . In my defence, aren't people always telling us to relax when TTC. Well, that's what I'm doing!!

Nelly - chill out and enjoy your hols. Enjoy the wine, eat the honey. Avoid the ibuprofen if possible. When do you come home?

Brassica - did you get through to a doc in the end? It does seem strange that they gave you 4 months and told you to get on with it. Totally different from Valinna's experience with her never ending dildocams! Did you have any side effects from clomid, btw?

Your body is playing silly buggers with you, isn't it Takethat? Hope you managed to hold strong and get that BFP soon. Well done on enjoying your DH and celebrating finishing in the meantime.

Josie - how are things with your DH now? Settled down a bit? Hope so. This can be such a stressful time for them as well as us.

That reminds me. I filled Mr Miffles in, last night, on quite how hard to 2ww can be and quite how mental you lot are. Naturally, I'm not, as have no cycle to stress about!! But I was warning him what I could turn into if and when I start clomid. He said "I don't want you to be like that". Oh. Ok then. Well, if you don't want me to be, then fine. It's as easy as that, of course!! Just wait!!!!!

And Vallina - hows things with you? I can't remember when you're due your next dildocam? is it tomorrow, as the lining wasn't thick enough? Hope it goes better.

Well, I have booked us a fabulous hollibobs to a five star hotel in Egypt in October. Now I will almost certainly get pregnant this cycle, as if I do I will be 5-6 weeks whilst there, unable to drink and probably being sick all over the shop! Yay for sod's law!

Brassica Hope you get some answers soon. There seems to be a lot of stories on here of women not getting the information and consideration they need.

Yah, boo, sucks for the BFN takethat. My temps increased as they should this month and on paper it looked like ov had taken place. But blood tests seem to say otherwise

Thanks all for the kind words. PMT seems to have hit (which is a double pisser) and I had a little cry this evening. I very rarely fecking cry! The consultant never rang back. Wonder if the old boot of a secretary gave him my message after trying to give me her medical opinion I will turn into the bitch from hell tomorrow and demand some answers. Also DH has a telephone appointment with GP for restuls of his JIAR test. I think all of this testing is just getting to me. I'm not sure how to get the mental strength to go through this all again. I have no idea how to chill the feck out!

Miffles I've not had any clomid side effects that I've noticed.

I agree the meerkat woman is slightly scarey

Right, first off, I'm not sure if it's PMT or genuine anger, but I've nearly thrown my netbook across the room. I had just written a massive long reply to you all, and suddenly it went pageback pageback pageback to the main menu. It has this new "feature" when I'm typing that will cause it to suddenly imagine I've given it an instruction to jump 5 lines above and start typing in the middle of a word I wrote 5 minutes ago. Any ideas?????? F*cking thing.

Right - and breathe..... onto more interesting matters!

Brassica I think I'm turning mental for lack of anything else to do. I read Shopaholic cover to cover yesterday afternoon and am now on page 528 of the second in the Millenium trilogy today. Normal service will resume next month, when I'm back at work grumble grumble. Hope you get some good advice on your other thread! Oh though just saw your last post, can't really offer words of wisdom but you aren't quite due so still time isn't there? Fingers crossed for you.

thanks milano - at least I knew that honey was an issue somewhere . Off to google what I really should be thinking about just now (in my maybe I am/maybe I'm not crazy time!)

woo hoo takethat for being my first customer you can have 50% extra free! . Still keeping everything crossed for you - no AF is still a good sign, yes? Or have I missed the point somewhere along my self obsessed recent ramblings?

eskarina I don't think so, but dual-personality disorder would explain my current state of mind

Don't worry truffkin had one just for lunch! And half a bottle of red for dinner. Normal service has been resumed! Oh, and in honour of the thread, a shag in between!!! Tip for Josie and all others with seemingly dis-interested OH's, the trick that works for me every time is "can you please rub this moisturiser/after-sun into my back". OK admittedly it's easier with aftersun but any old moisturiser works. OH can't EVER stop at just my back ahem...

miffles back Saturday. . ERTD due Sunday. Hence the madness! I love your justification for mid-week wine though :)

Harder great news about the holiday - can you forgive me for mine now .

Right I'm off to stalk this MN legend that you have referred to, to see why she's so interesting

Sorry you're having problems with the netbook Nelly Does it have a touch pad just below the keyboard? My laptop does and I find that I often catch the pad with the edge of my palm and it jumps the writing to wherever the cursor is. V V annoying!
What does ERTD stand for? I can guess what it refers to, but it sounds much more evil ominous than AF!
Enjoy the end of your holiday.
Brassica good luck with getting anywhere with the consultant today.

AF that never was seems to have disappeared again. As I don't appear to be pg this time round I want it to get on with it quickly and go away so we can start trying again.

Hey all,

I don't know what ERTD stands for either eskarina and I've always wondered. My usual trick of googling it doesn't work either.

nervous, thanks for the discount! I'll shop here again!

Good luck calling the doctors today brassica. I hope the bitchy receptionist got the reading wrong because she was too busy and important to do her job. What a cow.

We seem to be having a parallel 2ww experience this time, though stressful for different reasons. I cried at work yesterday and then again when I got home. Starting to lose the energy to keep things in perspective. My body certainly is playing silly buggers miffles. The NHS website says that it can take up to six months for your body to settle into regular cycles after coming off the pill. It's been six months for me now, and my cycle lengths have been 32, 47, 51 and now I'm on day 37 and I don't even know if I've ovulated.

Plus the NHS website says that in adolescence periods should be regular after a couple of years. I had periods for four years before going on the pill and they were all over the shop - 4-10 weeks apart (usually nearer 10), and so heavy that when I was 16 I flooded my (white) jeans within an hour of getting to school and had to go home and change. I had no periods at all on my pill for 9 out of the 11 years I was on it so I practically forgot about it, and my mum put it all down to adolescent irregularity at the time.

So now I'm pretty convinced there's a problem. And I'm fucked off about it. I'm sick of waiting 7 weeks to get a period and having hardly any ovulation times to get pregnant. I'm fucked off I had a miscarriage and that having long cycles makes that much more likely to happen again. And I'm pissed off that I could have had all this sorted out when I was 16 and not waited until I'm 28. I know it's not the end of the world but if I could just have regular four week cycles at least I'd feel I had a chance. And even though DH is an absolute star and this would never even occur to him, I hate it that it's my body causing the problems because I feel like I'm letting him down.

Rant over. Just finding it increasingly difficult that I don't feel I even have a fair chance of conceiving. I know people are in worse situations than me, and that this is probably fixable.

Sorry you are also in the pit of doom takethat. (Sorry, I can't help taking some comfort that I'm not down here on my own). In the words of scary atm I think you need to get yourself to the docs. Maybe the pill was hiding some underlying condition? PCOS or the like? Sorry this is driving you mad too. Hang in there.

I think ERTD is Evil Red Tide of Doom or the like - AF.

Well my temps dipped classically today. (This is my first month charting) This means that the progesterone levels have significantly dropped and is apparently the cause of PMT. So I'm convinced that it's game over for this month too. I believe takethat and I are charting. This is serious rule breaking . But as I'm about to enter TTC month 8 and takethat is not far behind me I think we can be excused

takethat and eskarina I believe it stands for Evil Red Tide of Doom . Not sure that there's an acronym I actually "like" as they are all a bit weird, but for some reason no-one on MN seems to just say period. At least ERTD has a bit of humour to it, given how annoyed we all are when it turns up! I find AF a bit cringe-making

Yes I do have the touchpad and suspect it's that, perhaps the backspace was because my cursor was hovering over the back button on my browser. It drives me mad .

takethat no wonder you are frustrated. Apologies but I can't remember if you've had any investigations into your irregular cycles so far? It does sound like it's worth following up. It's scary when your body doesn't behave as it's supposed to! I think it was Vallinna (but apologies if I'm mis-quoting) who was to be seen recently poking her stomach and shouting at her uterus to work . All gets a bit mental.

On the mental note, I think mine is over for another month :(. Having had regular periods for as long as I can remember, this one has fucked about - in the first real month of TTC, typical. Stupid body. I'm not quite sure if I'm at CD1 yet, but certainly was blood when I wiped this morning (waaaay TMI, sorry). This on/off has been going on since Sunday. Not in the normal pattern either. In a normal month I'd have expected brown spotting to have started yesterday, with full period starting on Sunday (ie tampon needed). This month it started on Sunday, a week before I was due; and has been very on and off, and generally pinker, hence my wondering if it was implantation. Looks like no, just my ERTD AF fecking period. Oh well.....wonder if the bar sells gin at 9.30

Still fingers crossed for implantation bleeding nervous

Cross posted brassica. I think the charting is allowed, and given I'm no spring chicken I think I will be following you down that route asap. Though I won't give up on the JS spirit

Morning, just quickly popping on before I head off to Durham Prison (for a visit, not being chucked in!)

Tooth still horrendously sore, haven't slept for 4 days, gonna bite the bullet and go to the dentist... if it doesn't stop by Monday

Good good news on the JSing front, had major breakthrough last night and it was gooood!!! All it took was a flash of my bare arse and he said he just couldn't control himself! It felt so good to do it without thinking about getting pg. Far too early so was just good old fashioned JSing

Will catch up properly later

cross posted again! Thanks, but I'm not holding out much hope it has to be said :( It was probably a ridiculous thought anyway - I'm 36 and in my first month of TTC, and as for the ridiculous notion of a holiday baby - pah . Who was I trying to kid???

Wooo-hooo for the good sex joise. Glad you are back in the saddle

I feel your pain nervous. I'm 37 (and a half!)