We're not obsessing, we're Just Shagging! Part III

[BrassicaBabe]

The 'rules' from our Just Shagging Originator

Maintain a relaxed attitude at all times - drink if you want too, especially on your birthday. Thread precedent dictates if you drink to excess you will get a BFP (but not recommended)

Covet thy husband and enjoy every minute. Shag at ever opportunity - shag-capes and awesome superpowers optional.

Resist the lure of ovulation predictor kits, Taking Control of Your Fertility and the dreaded First Repsonse. Knowing where you are in your cycle is entirely permissible though!

Going to the doctor is permitted if you've had a stupidly long cycle but beware of the dildo-cam-scan.

Keep acronmyage to a minimum! EWCM is now to be referred to as 'pant snot'.

Keep us up to date with gossip!

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Although all most of these rules are well and truely broken!! But we try to chill - honest

Part 1 Graduates:
Tanmu82 - BFP
PrivetDancer - BFP
OnlyWantsOne - BFP
Frankenfanny ? BFP
Notso - BFP
knittakid - BFP
loopeylu - BFP
PinkFondantFancy - BFP
Grannyapple ? BFP
Fuzzywood - BFP
canoe - BFP
janedoe - BFP
StarflowerGirl - BFP

Part 2 Graduates:
ihaveaplan - BFP
lovemylulu - BFP
shitforbrains - BFP
gormers - BFP

Shout if I've missed anyone.

Congrats on JSing josie, let's hope this is the beginning of more carefree shagging to come :)

Sorry for AF nervous and for your body mucking you about too. Sometimes ttcing is like a sick joke.

Yep, I'm charting brassica, though I've let it go a bit this month. I've been ttc for six months now, though I'm still only in cycle 4 because of fecking body. Waiting a minimum of 5 weeks just to ovulate is enough to drive anyone nuts though, in my defence. Don't worry about feeling glad you're not down here on your own - I'm on here to find other nutters going through the same thing and I'm glad I found you!

Haven't been to the doctors yet nervous but if the-one-who-can't-be-named doesn't turn up today I'm going tomorrow. Just got to try to get them to take me seriously - I know they're going to say that I've come off the pill and had a miscarriage so things are bound to be all over the place. But I know this isn't normal. Plus because they wouldn't believe my chart they thought I was 7 weeks pregnant and having a full-on miscarriage when I know I was only 4 and it was a chemical pregnancy, so is much less likely to have buggered up my cycle.

Thing is, even if I do conceive I'm likely to have more chemical pregnancies because I'm releasing 'geriatric' eggs into an 'impoverished' womb. Nice, the things you find on google.

nervous have a G&T for me. Actually I hate gin so make it a vodka and diet coke. And make sure it's a double. 9.30am is a perfectly reasonable time to drink in my book, especially if your period has arrived!

I'll join you lot in a sneaky GnT, vodka, wine, pimms. Not fussy today!!

I've just call the consultant's witch secretary again. "Are you the same Mrs Brassica who rang yesterday? I'll pass the message on when I see Mr Consultant" "When will you see Mr Consultant" "Lunch time today". Well you could have fucking told me about that yesterday eh bitch?!

Hope Mr Brassica's JIAR results are okay today too.

takethat would you agree that AF looks imminent? I'm on a 26 day cycle. My Chart

brassica sorry to say it but yes, it looks like it to me . But it does look like you ovulated, too, which has got to be good news. Hopefully Mr Consultant will not be such an arsehole as Mrs Fuck Off Receptionist and you'll get some clearer answers today.

I haven't done my charts online but I may do it today so I have something to take to the doctors. May make up some temps for a couple of cycles ago, just to make it more convincing. I'm hoping they'll put me on Clomid too.

I'm working from home today. Wish it was Friday so I could just get hammered.

I'm working from home too today. Just doing enough so that they know I'm here. But wallowing in The Pit at the same time. Will nip off and spend a few hours with DH soon for some company

Aw, have a nice time with DH. I've just made up three months of charts from memory, the bits I've written down, and imagination on FF. Going to print 'em out and take them to the doctors tomorrow and try to make them believe my body is a wreck.

FF believes I ovulated when I think I did for this month, but it's still weird that my temperatures are over half a degree lower than they were last month.

I'd better do some work now instead of pissing about on google/MN/FF, breaking all the JS rules :)

Also, FF has added 3 years to my age, randomly. Grrrrrrrrrrr.

Cor, tell you what - this thread is a bitch to catch up on if you let it slide for a couple of days!

Hope all is well, sort of skim read so my apologies for not keeping up to date

Miffles - I have dildocam today... am wondering if they will let me in after my Monday rant plus I followed it up by telling them there was no way I was paying for that scan oh, well....twats.

Hey brassica - despite being queen of the dildocam and one cycle of clomid down I'm not sure I can help with your other thread query. Because the dildocams had shown bugger all was happening I didn't really pay any attention to my blood test results (which I am assuming showed I didn't ovulate).

Not sure what I am going to do if today shows no more progress. Think I will ask to take 10mg of Letrozole (as opposed to the 5mg I am on). This will use up all the Letrozole I have left. If that doesn't work then I am going to have to go down injection route

Not sure I can mention this here but am really close to just saying sod it and going for IVF because it will actually be cheaper than slogging away as we are.

I was beginning to think we'd lost you vallinna. I can understand your thoughts on going straight to IVF. All of these little appointments here and there must really fecking add up!

takaethat I think FF helps keep my obession in check. I have to know what's going on. Ignorance is def not bliss! (add me as a friend if you fancy )

Well I've spoken to Mr Consultant. Soooo much nicer and easier to communicate with than Mrs Fuck Off Receptionist.

My progesterone level off clomid was 31. Quite acceptable. My level on clomid was 19 and classed as low. He suggested upping my clomid from 50mg to 100mg. He's also going to send me more forms for blood tests next month.

He's quite lovely and plyable, biddable, easily suggestive, happy to help. But I do wonder what would happen if I wasn't on their case. I'm pretty sure they would just leave me to it. It's not fair for others who have a quieter more trusting personailty. They are losing out.

Already thinking ahead to cycle #8. Are you with me viroids?! Or I have driven you all mental with my 2WW.

Fingers crossed for a couple of BFPs soon.

Brassica - the complete bitch attitude assertiveness is something I have learned is INVALUBLE. You really need to know all your options and possible outcomes. I am genuinely gobsmacked at the 'ignorance' of fertility clinics bearing in mind the emotionally sensitive condition they are treating.

I am glad you have some peace of mind!

I will rant report back after my scan (provided I don't need to post bail fist )

Good luck with dildocam vallinna. I totally get why you'd think of going straight for IVF. As much as I've carried on drinking and working and living my life while ttc, I really do feel my life has been on hold for six months. There's only so many times you can tell yourself 'this might be the last time I get to do x, y and z'. When you've done everything for the last time 100 times it starts to get old, doesn't it?

Didn't know you could add friends on FF brassica. I'll add you. I'm with you on ignorance not being bliss - the month before I tracked my cycles I didn't know what the hell was going on and I was a monster raving lunatic.

Wish I'd gone to the docs this morning because I can't wait until tomorrow. Can't really find anything it could be but PCOS and I'm not overweight, my BMI is 22, I don't have hair anywhere it shouldn't be, etc, and I was tested for diabetes at a routine medical check a couple of years ago and there's no sign of raised insulin levels.

Got to stop wallowing and start working!

Oh, the medical professionals in my life get better....!

DH had JIAR test last Wednesday. It's too much to hope for that they would ring us when the results are in. So I rang them and booked an appointment. The receptionist confirmed that the results were in.

The GP calls DH today along the lines of "what can I do for you" . Apparently the results weren't in and told DH to call again next week .

So I call back. Ask them if the results are available. They are. And ask surgery to deal.

They call DH back and make a fecking telephone appointment for Monday!!!

Ridiculous! I ring then back again, tell them it's not good enough. I don't mind mistakes happening, but DH and I are not going to wait until Monday just because they've made one!

Now the GP is out on rounds and they've left a message asking for her to call back today.

Of course it all has to be done by telephone tennis because they can't speak directly to me. And DH like most men is fecking laid back and will take as gospel whatever he's told. Bless him, but !

Ok. Rant over. Fecking incompetents!

What about underactive thyroid taketat? A friend was recently investigated for AF all over the place, tiredness etc. They looked into PCOS and decided in underactive thyroid in the end.

Oh brassica WTF is it with fertility doctors? And normal doctors for that matter? I'm dreading tomorrow. There's a really nice doctor at our surgery who was so lovely to me over the phone after the mc, but one of the other doctors treats you like a total time waster. I can't remember either of their names as I hardly ever go so it's pot luck who I'll end up with tomorrow.

Hope you get those results back today.

Yeah, maybe the thyroid thing is it, though again I don't really have any other symptoms. Will bear it in mind as another thing to ask them about. Might as well badger them into hearing me with as much medical info as I can get my hands on!

Oh Brassica, what a mess. I hate how you can't get hold of doctors directly. My DH got JIAR results over the phone with the "Fine for any treatment" line but failing to mention low sperm motility. Fecking twats.

Today's dildocam showed no real change...nurses will ring me later as to what next. Arses.

Takethat - I am as normal as they come in terms of weight, body hair and hormone levels but still have PCOS.

Sorry to hear that vallinna. I posted another thread and have spent more of the day googling than I should have done and I've started to come across other people like you (and possibly me) - PCOS with no other significant symptoms.

I'm just going to go in there and stamp and cry until they give me Clomid, I reckon.

Let us know what happens when that arse of a nurse calls back.

Hallo Ladies :)

What a nightmare we all seem to be having :(

I've stopped bleeding now, going to get some JSing in just cos I can, and I know it's unlikely that I'll conceive this month ... my body is playing games, so I have no idea where my cycle is at. I may invest in some OPK tomorrow - I'm old and crusty, so I haven't got the luxury of just waiting

Awh, that's a nice answer from scarey lady- ATM takethat. But you just aren't going to stop charting are you

It's easy to understand why folks buy fertility drugs from the internet seeing the grief we all go through.

Bollocks for no change on dildocam vallinna. How do you feel about a nurse calling you rather than a doc? Do you know what you want them to do next?

Misery loves company so the daft saying goes crow. I'm old and crusty too, so you aren't alone

Hi everyone :)

A bit about me; I have DD 15 and DS 13, my OH has one of each too and we have decided to have a baby together.
I stopped taking the pill mid cycle on Sunday and stupidly got my hopes up but seems AF came this morning.

I love the fact that we can and will still have a drink (or 2) while TTC,and have fun too!!

I wish you all the best of luck.
xxx

It's good news though that AF came so quickly choco? At least you are on CD1 and you now have a starting point. I'm sure it's only drinking that gets me through this TTC lark! Weclome too!

I don't mind brassica, they speak to the doc first and then they call. My guess is it will be a little third wheel if I say I want to do something different to what they have been told but I resigned to that. So far they have been really well informed.

Welcom to the madness chocoflakes - GL finding anyone sticking to the original ethos

Hey chocoflakes and welcome. Sometimes we have a lot of fun on this thread, but you've joined us on a rare day. Sorry for that!

Yes that was a nice response from ATM brassica. Now I google more and see that Clomid is nigh-on impossible to wring out of a GP. FFS. Need to stop googling before I diagnose myself with any more problems I may not have, get het up about doctors who may or may not prescribe me drugs for the problems I may not have, and start feeling I'm older and crustier and less likely to conceive every time I look in the mirror.

Just want to go in there, be given a load of Clomid, and get preg next cycle

Thankyou for the welcome, suppose it was a bit of a bad day for me too! But as you said Brassicababe, at least things are moving in there!
It is a worry now i'm OLD (37)and trying again, how different it will all be. I had PSOD in my early 20's and didn't have a period for 18mnths, then one day I did and my daughter was concieved.
It really doesn't seem that long ago but now we have the internet and so (maybe too) much information to access!
But one thing is great, this site and all the help everyone gives.

So, after numerous drugs, no booze for nearly 4 weeks, several scans and some threatened violence on my part towards the clinc, nothing is happening. Basically they don't think the drugs will work (which leaves me with 2 cycles if Letrozole that cost us however much....) I certainly know how to pick consultants as my one is now away until 11th October...so we have an appointment for 12th to discuss the next steps.

The nurse said the next step would be lazering the ovaries or IVF.

The lazer thing is called a diathemy (or something like that) and involves them making several incisions with a lazer into each ovary. For some reason this seems to make them work again. Can't for the life of my see why.

They do have this special IVF package which offers you two chances to achieve a live birth for an all-inclusive price as long as you fit their criteria (which I do - seems like the man could be 100, obsese and a chain-smoking alcoholic and it doesn't matter!)

To be honest the cost of the frickin' lazer (to be said a la Austin Powers), the time and then all the scans, blood test etc will probably make IVF the better option. I would hope they would want someone like me on that programme (young-ish, slim, no real medical problem bar this fundalmetal one....) as I reckon I help make their stats look good.

Bit upset to be in this position :o(

Any way....if only I didn't have a half marathon on Sunday I would just get drunk.

Welcome choco, it is a bit of a down day today but normally it's fun (as much as is possible in what can be trying circumstances!)

So despite me beginning to hope it was a false alarm - nope, CD1 for me :(. This is clearly not what I wanted, and 3 days earlier than normal, but I have compiled a list of why this is good news

1. It makes my iphone app earn it's keep
2. I can get properly pissed for the end of my holidays
3. It means I probably ov'd earlier than i thought this month, which in turn(due to long hours at work before hols) means I probably missed the window. THIS is why I'm not pregnant, not that my eggs are 140 years old
4. It will be over by wednesday, which is the 10 year anniversary of when OH and I met. Anticipating some cheeky JS for me, yippee
5. I don't have to buy any tests this month Pls ignore fact that lillets cost money too
6. I don't have to come up with a clever foreign name for my (now non-existent) conceived-in-exotic-location child.
7. I can take ibuprofen to try to quell the itch of the dozen mysterious insect bites that are driving me NUTS
8. Shorter cycles mean more opportunities to JS

Oh vallinna just saw your post - what a horrible choice to have to make :(

They really should spend less time in sex-ed warning us about unwanted teenage pregnancies, and more time encouraging us to get at it, as who knew it was so complicated (and expensive ).

Sorry to hear about AF nervous but loving your list of positives :) I second what you say about bloody sex-ed too. Also if you've got heavy, irregular cycles when you're 16 but you've been having periods for four years they shouldn't stick you on the pill and let you mask the problem for 11 years - they should frigging well sort it out! (Tbh though I went on the pill so I could shag, not for health reasons!)

Really sorry vallinna about what's happening to you. But IVF is at least proactive. Big big hugs to you x