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'The Frolickers Return' Come grab a place in the penthouse and join us for more antics as we sit back sip pornstars and trial hot off the press skincare products... all while we keeeeep shaggin!

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LankyLegs · 27/08/2010 15:53

Settle down girls settle down as I hand you all a yummy pornstar cocktail complete with a sparkler and tacky umbrella. I take it we are all wearing our fabulous vintage 50's frocks, high heels and have our red lipstick on? Make yourself comfortable in the penthouse... the naked butlers are just heading in with grapes and truffles in trays...

All new first timers welcome - as long as suitable goodies and alcohol are dropped into the penthouse for all to share.

Oh and no AF around here - only FERTD.... Capishe??

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Bellaby · 31/08/2010 20:48

Mmm steak & chips. Let me know if there are any leftovers Truffkin

highheelsandequations · 31/08/2010 20:54

Evening all, sorry I've not been posting much, but I have been doing my best to keep up with the chatter!

Well I am annoyed so apologies in advance for the rant. So last cycle was cycle 3 of clomid. I was told to take 25mg on days 2-6 for 3 cycles and to get my day 21 (ish) blodd progesterone checked each cycle. As last cycle was my "last chance" and 25mg is a very small dose, I flirted with the idea of upping myself to 50mg to give us a better chance. Then decided I was wrong to go against medical advice and stuck with the original dose. Blood results indicated I ovulated but no baby for me. So today I get a letter from my consultant dated 8th August (and postmarked 28th Aug) saying that my blood progesterone from July 16th (cycle 2) indicates that I have probably ovulated and if I needed to take a 3rd cycle I should take 50mg, not 25mg. This information arrived 5 weeks too late for me to do anything about it. Now I am annoyed that they didn't tell me until it was too late and am thinking "if we'd had the higher dose would I be pregnant now". Am I overreacting here?

2nd annoying thing about the letter. It continues to say that if the third cycle on 50mg isn't successful I should phone to book my HSG. The information goes on to state that the HSG is available on a Monday morning only at either 9am or 9.30am, there will be a wait time of up to 3 months and it must be done in the first two weeks of the cycle. So my cycles before clomid were completely irregular, how can I book an appointment 3 months in advance for a specific time in my cycle when they could be all over the place again by then?

DP says I should phone up and complain about the time taken to receive the letter and ask them what I should do now but I hate complaining to people.

Was feeling fairly down today anyway as work is fairly awful just now and my stress levels are through the roof, which makes me feel ill, and just having one of those days when you are convinced you will never be pregnant. Then that letter just made everything even worse. Fairly certain I'm overreacting but it just seems to be yet another example of the failures of the NHS.

GRRRRR!!

Sorry rant over. Will return tomorrow and try and post nice things to people. Nearly halfway through the week now so only 3 more days till the weekend.

highheelsandequations · 31/08/2010 20:54

DP just asked what I was doing. I told him I was chatting so he said to say hello to you all from him :)

Truffkin · 31/08/2010 21:56

Sorry gals, no steak left to share (yum yum) but wanted to say highheels that I think you should definitely call the consultant to explain what has happened with timings etc especially as the letter was sent so long after being written.

Of all people the medical professionals dealing with fertility issues should understand how emotional the whole experience is and take that into considerations when making decisions - so thoughtless!

Sorry you're having a bad time of it at the moment and hope you get some useful feedback when you call them to complain.

cherrycobbler · 31/08/2010 23:08

Allo frolickers I keep popping in to post a quick hello but always end up spending the time catching up with all the great chat (I love Anoushka, whoever suggested it) and running out of time!
tomboy hope tomorrow goes well - your poor DH
highheels that is truly shite re inability to post letter for nigh on 20 days. I say complain - can do polite but pissed off letter if that's easier. On the what if front, it's just torture to go over things. I thought clomid only helped w ovulation so if you ov'ed it did it's work and higher dose wd have had no effect on conception? Only my very non medical guess. Boo for having such a shite time of it and feeling low. Hope you feeling bit more positive tomorrow xx
flick grr for BFN, very weird if CBFM thinks you ovulated and still no ERTD. Your plan sounds a good one.
roam good luck tomorrow!
Have caved and ordered a CBFM online this morn - thanks for your responses! Also ordered some cheapie pee sticks to feed my POAS habit. No symptoms but usual FERTD symptoms this month so not holding out much any hope and trying to resist using my last first response tomorrow as will only be ten dpo...

alien06 · 31/08/2010 23:11

highheels defo complain, that is shocking that the letter took that long and I am sure that you are not the only person that they deal with that has irregular cycles. The NHS are totally useless sometimes !
Hi to your DP:) My DH is finding the acronyms we use really funny , bless him.

felicityFlick · 01/09/2010 05:33

higheels I think that is awful! Shock you deserve, at the very least, to be bumped up the list for your next treatment. I hate complaining too so echo the letter idea. Do you think it might be worth going to see your GP with the letter and seeing if they could pull a few strings? I am sure once they saw how upset you were they would do everything they could to try and bump you up and sort out the ridiculousness of going at a specific time in your cycle. You should be given special treatment and be allowed to to call on CD1 and then slotted in after how they?ve treated you. I am so Angry on your behalf. Hang in there- not long until the weekend chick. There is nothing worse than when you are stressed at work. Just keep going with your yoga and keep plodding along and the days will soon pass xxx

roam WELL??? Big day today. Everything crossed that you will be our first September BFP. They?ve been a little thin on the ground recently so we are definitely overdue some. Your symptoms are sounding good too.

florinyounaughtyshowershagger!Sorry to hear about your DH. Were able to convince him to do some gentle swi?! I wouldn't worry about your mum saying she didn't like your name- when she meets the baby she will be so besotted that she will adore the name.

lanky Good girl for going to the gym! Gold star from Miss Flick Love your names too.

garden Hope by the time you?ve read this you will have seen a big, juicy, mother of all eggs about to pop out :) Can?t wait to hear how you get on xx

womanly Hope the SWI is going well Wink

alien Good luck back at work today! When do you have the little darlings back in? I would die if Mr. Flick read what I wrote on here! When I moan about all things ttc he says? well what do your cyber friends think?? I get what you mean about going back to work. I always feel that if I have to answer the question ?How was your holiday?? one more time I will scream!

toria Are you feeling better yet? I think you said you were going to make a docs appointment for today if you weren?t? I hope you are anyway. On the subject of mil?s ... I had an awful experience with mine... They got trapped out here in HK with me for an extra two weeks when that stupid volcanic ash cloud thing happened. I think some of the girls on here will remember cave and bella definitely will remember how stressed I was. they had already been here for two weeks and I was so ready for them to go! Your mil sounds just divine Wink

crazy I love your names!! I like really similar ones but I don?t want to say incase I jinx anything. Impressed with your restraint in Space NK and [jealous] of your freebie. What a nice friend you are, I wish my friends would get my birthday pressies in Space NK! Were the zelebs particularly noteworthy?

josieGrin at your text! Hope you had some good SWI last night Wink

bella I must get into Dexter (that?s a cute name too!) I am in the middle of Mad Men series 2 and also The Wire series 1 so have enough to be getting on with for now I think but will add Dexter as next on the must watch list. I feel better about going to the doctors as I feel like I am taking some control over my stupid body. I forget how long you have been off your pill for now? I know it has been a while so I imagine you are as frustrated as me with the long cycles. I don?t know whether I?m coming or going or as my friend at work would say ?I don?t know whether I?m Arthur or Martha!? he he Grin

cherry Glad you ordered the CBFM! Despite it making me all confused this month- I still love it! I tried to call the Clearblue helpline last night to ask if it was possible for the CBFM to say you had ovulated when in fact you didn?t, but I couldn?t get through as it is an 0870 number and both my mobile and landline would not connect to it due to me being outside of the UK and it being a ?premium? number. I was not impressed! I am going to try and get the one RL friend who knows about me ttc and lives in the UK to call fro me so I will keep you posted on the outcome. The cheapie pee sticks are so fun! Just like the inside of a ?norma?l preg test. I?m sure they are just what is inside the plastic case.

truffkin I want steak! has that stomach ache materialised into ERTD yet this morn? I am now in the same boat as you. Got rid of any thought that I might be preg and now angrily waiting for stupid FERTD to turn up.

Cave genius site!

tomboy good luck for your poor DH today. Lucky he is so good with blood and first aid by the sounds of it! Glad you are able to be with him and look after him. Will he have to stay in over night? Also have names picked out for a boy but a huge list of girl names to decide on should the time ever come!

I am having a day when I think I will never be pregnant. Yes, I have only been properly trying to ttc a month but I came off my pill in November and that?s almost a year now and my cycles are still shit :( BOOOO. I promised I wouldn?t moan anymore but just thought i?d stick a little one in at the end Wink !

felicityFlick · 01/09/2010 05:58

Whoopsie- I forgot to do the list!

Wednesday's list
evilgiraffe TTC#1 Cycle 2 UCL 28?! CD213
FelicityFlick TTC#1 Cycle 1 , UCL 32-33, CD44
Ilovemarmite79 TTC1, cycle 1, UCL28, CD34
cherrycobbler TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 32 CD30
roamfree TTC#1 cycle 1 UCL 28-30 CD 30
Pinklady76 TTC#1, cycle 1, UCL 28, CD29
Crazybutterflylady TTC#1, cycle 2, UCL36, CD27
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 5,UCL 29, CD27
cookie moo TTC#1, cycle 18, ucl 26, cd 25
Bellaby TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL?, CD25
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL ?, CD24
Crazydays TTC#1, Cycle 2,UCL 24-28, CD24
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 9, UCL28, CD23
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL??, CD21
kkas TTC#1 Cycle 13 UCL32 CD21
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL28, CD15
LankyLegs TTC#1 Cycle 11 UCL 27-29 CD13
JosieSmith1 TTC#1, cycle 3, UCL28, CD13
Florin TTC#1 Cycle 6 UCL33 CD12
GardenPixie TTC#1 cycle 9 UCL30-35 CD12
TigerseyeMum TTC#1 Cycle , UCL 30, CD10
highheelsandequations TTC#1 cycle 14(ish) UCL 32 CD10
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL28-33, CD10
Ariesgirl TTC#1 cycle 7 UCL 27-33 CD8
Toriajayne TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL30, CD4
Yumstepmum TTC#1 Cycle 1 UCL 28 CD 3

TBC
TanteAC TTC#1, cycle?, ucl?, cd?

Not counting days
CaveMum
Kaloki (10 days to Wedding )
Miffles
Kurlyvoice
Chalky3
Truffkin
DessieLou
Zippys

Recent Graduates:
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July
Saor Alba BFP 7 August
MrsWajs BFP 13 August
stegasaurus BFP 27 August

Forgot to say before sorry FSBERTD got your yum but this is your very first cycle of actual proper TTC so that is something to look forward to!

roamfree · 01/09/2010 06:55

Errm...it's a BFP!!!! In shock. Still don't quite believe it, but having checked and rechecked the test, it is definitely a +. Oh my.

CaveMum · 01/09/2010 07:05

roam!!!!!! Our first (of many) September positive!
So very pleased for you. Have you told MrRoam yet? What did he say? I love hearing about the male response - they tend to either go into complete shock or strut around like a peacock all "Me man. Me impregnate woman!"

Congrats again!

Bellaby · 01/09/2010 07:41

Roam"!!! Many congrats. And on cycle 1 - you lucky thing.

highheels the treatment you've received sounds rotten. It's hard to complain but I think you should make a big fuss about this. I really feel for you

cherry I am very excited about your CBFM purchase. I haven't used mine for about 6 months but will try it out again when I nexxt get ERTD

Felicity - good morning. It's always so lovely to have your messages to read when I wake up! Glad you are watching The Wire. I think it's one of the best series once you get used to the language which took me a few episodes to understand. Now you say it I also like Dexter as a name but I'm not sure I could name my child after a fictional serial killer! I'm very frustrated for you with your cycles - they seemed so regular before you went on holiday. I've been off the pill since the end of Jan but assumed I had to wait 6 months before I could seek further help. Now I think I'm waiting to see if ERTD arrives next week even though I'm certain I wont have regular cycles without some assistance.

Have a lovely day all x

Bellaby · 01/09/2010 07:46

I remember your PIL drama well Flick - you demonstrated the patience of a saint!

raspberrytipple · 01/09/2010 07:51

Congratulations roam!!! Hopefully to be followed by many more this month, that's wonderful news.

Highheels-you really need to complain, that's totally unacceptable and very upsetting for you and they should be made to recognise that.I'm with the others on a letter but if you are feeling brave it maybe worth booking an appointment, it's better to get something done and, having experienced NHS complaints procedures, unfortunately as soon as you write a letter that is all you become, a complaint with a number to be dealt with by an administrator, not a doctor that can recommend your next course of action. As someone else suggested perhaps visit your go?

I am thinking about getting a clear blue. We're technically only on our second week wait and I promised I wouldn't get all obessed but it might be an idea. Where do you buy them from? Perhaps I'll stay trying as normal for up til Christmas (which is only like 15 weeks away now!!!) then ask Santa to bring me one.

crazybutterflylady · 01/09/2010 07:55

Roamie congrats!!!!! Just on phone now but will reply proper when I get to work. I am guessing Mr Roam will be the latter example of man reaction since it's cycle 1!! Mr Supersperm Roamie hehe :)

Hear hear to the first of many Cavey xx

Bellaby · 01/09/2010 07:56

I don't understand why so many organisations still insist on using letters anyway. What's wrong with e-mail??? It's instant so would save a lot of time not to mention paper. And would mean things like your situation wouldn't happen high heels

It always annoys me when companies say they can't send emails - get with the times!

cherrycobbler · 01/09/2010 08:09

roam congrats!! Hope it's first thread BFP if many :)
raspberry you can get them from boots but I got mine from amazon as a lovely lady on here pointed out it's about a third cheaper.
aw flick sorry you're having one if those days. If it's any consolation know how you feel, having one too - can feel FERTD on it's way today and am not excited about starting cycle 8!
bella v frustrating re your cycles. Are you thinking of going back to docs?

Happy Wednesdays all - and highheels hope you're feeling ok today my love

felicityFlick · 01/09/2010 08:19

Just off to meeting so super quick one from me to congratulate roam!!! Woweeeee :) So chuffed for you- great way to start Sept!! Sad for me to lose my new non UK friend thoughWink will you stay a while?

Love to all- back later xx

kurlyvoice · 01/09/2010 08:25

Morning girls,

Well, you're going to have to (temporarily perhaps) take me off "not counting days" as I am, apparently, PREGNANT. Did one of those freebie DuoFertility tests this morning and it had two very definite lines. Am off to buy a CB digital fella as I'm not really believing it, given how ridiculous my "cycles" have been. I also have absolutely no idea how pregnant I am, given that the doctors date it by the start of your last period which for me was at the start of June and lasted nearly 7 weeks. ARGH!

Am now, of course, horribly anxious that there's going to be something wrong and feeling awful for not taking my folic acid very regularly for the past few weeks. Bad kurly. MrKurly is thrilled but doesn't quite believe that it's possible, given our minimal SWI over the last few weeks (as I've been feeling rubbish). I know that lots of you don't know me but I've been around since January and not had a normal time of it at all, so I'm just waiting for something to go wrong.

And now I have to go to school and hide the fact that I might not be seeing this academic year through... Wink Will update soon!

LankyLegs · 01/09/2010 08:34

OMG! 2 BFPs!!!

COngratualtions Roam and Kurly what great news!!! Hope you both enjoy the feeling of elation! How exciting!!

Will eb back later to catch up with all!

xxx

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crazybutterflylady · 01/09/2010 08:37

Right, have finally landed :)

Congrats again roamie such exciting news for you. Good luck for an easy 9 months ahead.

highheels please phone the consultant and go mental, it's shocking and sounds to me like the work of a very lazy secretary (I am allowed to say that, being one myself Wink ). How can it take 3 weeks to post a figging letter? Sorry for my language but grrr! And if you don't phone them then please Can I pretend to be you and phone for you Grin I have already wound myself up this morning thanks to a tosser who kept elbowing me in the ribs on the train. I told him he was, very politely and his response was 'you are talking rubbish, I am not touching you'. Wow, what a nice man.

flick hi sweetie, hope you're feeling a bit better and less down in the dumps... try to stay positive until your appt with the gynae. I reeeally want to know your names, you have much more willpower than me!! I agree with bellaby, I love the wire... I wish I was watching it for the first time like you Envy

Bellaby I have just finished Series 1 of Dexter and LOVE IT. Started Flash Forward now and really loving that too. God I sound like a right sofa surfer :)

Josie, a fellow Geordie!! I grew up in Newcastle but am in London now. I miss home... say hi to it for me :)

Truffkin... sorry Blush what is a viroid? Am I being thick? {blush] Blush

Good luck for your CBFM Cherry. I have a hold on the lucky forum one in case FBFBFBERTD gets me this month. Mr Crazy asked if I would rather buy a new one "because hasn't someone wee'd on that one?". Bless him Grin. In some respects I hope FBFBERTD does get me so I can have a new toy!

Morning to anyone I have missed. I am off to read a chapter of my book before the guv gets in Wink have a lovely morning everyone xx

crazybutterflylady · 01/09/2010 08:38

and another WOOOHOOOOOOOOOO for kurly, that's fab news. CONGRATULATIONS

wow maybe this really is a lucky thread Grin

OneOf8 · 01/09/2010 08:43

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! Roamfree and Kurlyvoice

That is wonderful news!!

Kurly, wouldn't worry about the lack of folic acid, just take it daily from now on. Due to poxy misbehaving cycles, I also failed to take it daily at the start as thought I was on another long cycle. At my 1st appt, my midwife said we have enough to worry about without adding to the list, so do your best to relax - which is FAR easier said than done!! Sending positive vibes your way, as know exactly how you feel x

Bet you are chuffed Roam! x

Hi to everyone else!

cherrycobbler · 01/09/2010 08:49

Wow kurly you're back, and you're pregnant!!! Big congrats. Hope you manage to relax and enjoy it soon:) keep us updated

Bless mr crazy re the wee comment! I am on hols with the parents (and DH) next month and think it's around SWI time - always a passion killer - so thinking I might crack open the CBFM open the month after next instead to avoid awkward questions from my entire family...

roamfree · 01/09/2010 09:05

Thanks for the congrats, all. You are lovely. It is great to be able to 'tell' someone as we are going to try to keep it to ourselves for now. I am going home next week so I think there's a good chance I will tell my mum and my best friend - will find it impossible not to - but other than that, I'm going to try to keep quiet for now.

DH's reaction was a bit strange to be honest. To be fair, I lept out of bed at 6.30am to do the test, so he'd only just woken up when I thrust said peed on stick in front of him. He was very sweet and gave me a big hug, said he was very happy (in a sleepy kind of a way) and then got in the shower. By the time he got out of the shower, he appeared to have gone into shock. He was very quiet and then when I asked if he was OK, he started spouting random uncomprehensible things about finances and not being able to go out next summer as we'll have a new baby! (He had wanted to wait until Jan to start trying and I bullied him into starting earlier (feeling a bit bad as most of my arguments referenced stats about it taking most couples up to a year to get pregnant - obviously I had no idea it would happen so quickly).) Oh, speak of the devil, an email has just popped up from him. Bless him, he says he's just shocked and although he's not jumping for joy on the outside, he feels very happy inside.

So, I guess I had better take my leave of this thread for now. Def going to pop in regularly and keep an eye on you all though! I really, really hope this is just the start of a flurry of BFPs for all of you.

LankyLegs · 01/09/2010 09:20

Right a proper hello to all!

OOoh what a wonderful way to start the day 2 BFPs! Well done to Roam and Curly very very chuffed for you!! Good luck with the 9 months ahead - I hope they are uneventful and enjoyable!

Highheels am with Crazy on this one - I think you should complain even if you don't like to - clearly they have mucked up big time - gits. I hope you are feeling ok, I would be reeling chica - esp since it was your third round as well.

Tomboy I hope it goes well for Mr Tomboy today - sounds painful. Good luck my dear.

Cavey great site - yet another thing to distract me!!

Truffkin you lucky gal steak and chips on a tuesday night hey?! Glad you have been poas-ing - I had the same last month - really long cycle and I knew fo sho I was not up the duff sadly. I hope ERTD arrives for you soon so you can get cracking with the next round... ding ding ding!

Cherry hello! yes- really like Anoushka too - but DH thinks it sounds too Sloany Pony if you know what I mean! Well done for ordering the CBFM! I have one too but its stuck at the paiost off until I can collect it this saturday!! Joy!

Flick my dear - yes we all have those days - mine tend to be the back half of the cycle when I know ERTD is on the way - just think I have been off the pill since October and still nothing!!! Its actually quite heartbreaking sometimes. Hang on in there chick - we all have those days. I felt a lot better after seeing the GP and getting tests done so it's great that you are taking things into your own hands and seeing the gynae.

Bella/ Flick ok I really want to start the wire have heard so much about it - are the accents really hard to deduce? Or am I just being think after someone mentioned that to me?

Rasberry you can get the CBFM online at Amazon (where they are a 1/3 off as Crazy kindly pointed out!) Good luck with it hun - I am waiting to start mine too.

Crazy lucky you getting to read before the guv arrives! Would love a job like that! Also loved your names - though Rufus was lovely! Yes Anouk from Chocolat - plus we have a mixed heritage background in our families so something a bit more exotic is always nice to represent where the families have come from!

Hello to alien, Josie and Toria and anyone else I have missed again!

I made it to the gym (yeee haaa) and will get another 2 sessions in this week. Also managed to get on the SWI wagon last night! Trying to gear up for big OV on saturday (I think) - Wish I ahd my bloody CBFM already!

Right - who is POASing next? Lets get some more BFPs on the road here!!

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