'The Frolickers Return' Come grab a place in the penthouse and join us for more antics as we sit back sip pornstars and trial hot off the press skincare products... all while we keeeeep shaggin!

[LankyLegs]

Settle down girls settle down as I hand you all a yummy pornstar cocktail complete with a sparkler and tacky umbrella. I take it we are all wearing our fabulous vintage 50's frocks, high heels and have our red lipstick on? Make yourself comfortable in the penthouse... the naked butlers are just heading in with grapes and truffles in trays...

All new first timers welcome - as long as suitable goodies and alcohol are dropped into the penthouse for all to share.

Oh and no AF around here - only FERTD.... Capishe??

Afternoon Flick the massage sounds heavenly! Wonder if I can convince OH I need similar treatments on his credit card

Weird goings on today, have an absolute shitton of EWCm (sorry, TMI I know) so not enirely sure what's going on, will just perservere with the SWI and hope for the best methinks!

Sorry alien it was me messing up your cycle number, knew I'd mess up the list somehow. Forgot to update cycles for you and raspberry and puppy, whoever next does the list could you fix it please?

Do I get detention MissFlick?

Toria that was the most brilliant chav-rant I have ever read. Great stuff!

Hi everyone, thanks for the sympathy girlies , I feel sooo rough had severe back ache, headaches from hell and sooo tired ! been asleep on the sofa most of the afternoon! luckily DH is still in the pub so haven't been boring him with my moaning about being ill!

x

Evening ladies! Sorry to have been MIA all weekend, but we've had visitors in from abroad. We spent most of Saturday playing paintball, which I had never played before and now will happily never play again. I'm normally not bothered by male-dominated stuff I work in a mostly male field and play two mostly male sports but this was a testosterone molecule too far. And the damn pellets hurt like hell when they hit you.

Bella huge congrats!

And sympathy and wine in stupidly large glasses to those whom ERTD has got.

No news either way from me. Still no ERTD, but my boobs have started hurting and DH says they're bigger than usual. It's not by much as I haven't noticed the change myself.

When I had a (probably) anovulatory cycle over Christmas I was something like 8 days late, so I figure I should wait at least that long before wasting another test.

Evening all.

I think you should all be very proudof me for resisting the urge to POAS last night!

But now I am a bit miserable as is becoming customary about this time of the month as I'm pretty sure I'm not pg. Not got any symptoms not even any I have made up and seeing as this is my third month the excitement is starting to wear off a bit and I'm starting to realise that maybe it's not going to be so easy after all. I know some people try for ages and people on here have been trying for much longer than me and I have such admiration for them!

Anyway, sorry for miserable post, just a bit down at the minute as usual but my best mate sent me one of those 'send this to x people and you'll have x days of good luck' texts which I don;t usually bother with, but it said karma has seen my sadness and decided the hard times are over. Just what I needed to cheer myself up a bit, and I have a good stash of choccy as DH brought loads home

Bloody Sophie Dahl

And I've just been on my facebook and came across a piccy of my friend with her new neice who was only born a few weeks ago and shes so cute Pooey

Aww thanks guys :) You still keep me smiling!

I'm trying to blag my scan for next Friday as DP and I are off next week and it would be far easer if we could go then than for DP to ask for another day off basically as soon as he was back from annual leave!

So hopefully I'll be skipping in next week with a happy scan story for you all :)

Good morning ladies, I hope you are all well. It's back to work for me today so I think my body is in shock at having to get out of bed at 6.30am again!

MrsWajs glad things are going well for you. Please do pop by and let us know how your scan goes. I do lurk on the Grads thread to see how you are all doing, but it's lovely when you guys pop by and say hi!

Josie well done for not POAS. I guess you just have to keep telling yourself "one day at a time". As someone else so wisely said, better to wait a few extra days and get a strong positive than test too early and get a false negative. Don't forget that even the "Early" response HPTs are no more than 70% accurate before 12 days after ovulation.

Today is a bit of a depressing milestone for me - Cycle Day 80 and still no sign of ERTD. I have to admit to feeling pretty darn crap about it and just feel so helpless. Feel the need for a wallow but have to pull myself together and get ready for work.

Have a good Monday everyone.

Oh thats so frustrating cave- I really feel your pain. I can't remember what your doctor said when you last went about how long to leave it? Allow yourself a little wallow- it helps.

Morning everyone else- just off to get my blood tests done and then I'll pop by when I'm back at home later on.

Hope all of your Monday's speed by xxx

Thanks Flick. Dr said I had to give it at least 6 months with no ERTD before they'll do any tests, so I've a long way to go yet.

I know that plenty of others have had long cycles and that I am not alone, but part of me is very and a teeny bit that other women have also come off the Pill and slipped straight back into "normal" cycles. Does that make me a bad person?

Well, DH slept on the settee last night. Not because we had an argument, but because he was playing on the computer all night and he didn?t want to wake me. I?m sure he thinks I love waking up alone, especially when I?m miserable about not being pg again. I left him a lovely little note this morning with a list of his priorities on the top (me somewhere in the middle) and a little bit about what?s bothering me at the minute. Honestly, I don?t think he even realises I?m there half the time. He doesn?t want sex anymore and his staying up late and sleeping on the settee is becoming a regular feature. Things need to change. Nothing major, just a little bit more effort in the house and in our marriage is all I?m asking.

Oh Cave, here I am complaining and you?re in a much worse situation than me. Have a little wallow, promise you?ll feel a smidgen better (not much but a little at least), if anyone at work does ask if you?re ok just say you?re tired, always works for me, if not, people always get the hint that I don?t want to talk about it and don?t ask again

hello everyone, well I am certainly ill as went to work this morning and got sent home :( no snuggled up in bed with my dog and laptop. Annoyingly we have someone finishing our bathroom today as he couldnt do it at the weekend, so ill be having to go out and get the money for him later, when at the moment I just feel like curling up.

Feel depressed as have ERTD and feel pants :( Also had DH mates saying yday that there was a rumour that I was pregnant! that upset me, and another one said that I looked pregnant! I am proud to say that I am a size 10 with a very flat tum! that really upset me as he had no idea how much I would want to be pregnant.

DH is being lovely as I am beginning to worry that there is something wrong with me as to why I cant conceive and everyone around us is, he is saying that we will give it a year then seek help. i am glad that he is so chilled about it as I am certainly not lol.

hope your Mondays are better than mine :)

x

Cross post Cave, I'm one of those women and it absolutely doesn't make you a bad person. I can't even begin to imagine how you feel. Especially as the doctors say you have to wait so long, that's ridiculous. I don't think they realise how much it effects you when you don't know what's going on and you want something so badly.

Hugs hun

Hello Frolickers!
Sorry I haven't posted for ages, have been feeling dreadful - nasty virus, ergh. But much better now!

I haven't had a chance to catch up on everyone's news properly but just wanted to say huge congrats to Bella hurrah!

I will catch up now and post again later

Hello again,

Puppy I haven't had a chance to say welcome yet! I hope you are settling in well to the thread. Sorry to hear you had a mc; it must be very frustrating for you to be waiting still after getting pg first time. All the ladies here are lovely so it's definitely the place to have a rant if you need - and this seems to be a very luck thread so hopefully we'll be hearing about your BFP very soon.

Alien Oooooooooh booo for FERTD and being ill. That sucks. I am brewing you a fresh cup of tea and passing over lovely scones too

Flick that is great news about your ERTD so you can get cracking - hurrah! Hope everything is going well with you - love the massage and general zen-ness, very good! We do all need to look after ourselves with all this draining TTC-ing

Josie Sorry you are feeling low. I know there's not much anyone can say to cheer you up but hang in there lovely. You will will will get a BFP and here's hoping it'll be in a few days

Tomboy your big boobs sound promising! (not a phrase I thought I'd ever type tbh). I agree with everyone else who said wait as long as poss until you POAS as they are not that reliable ... but I also know it's not that easy. We're all here whatever you decide to do!

MrsW lovely to hear from you and do keep us posted re the scan! I hope little Wajs is doing well

HRHCavey oh poooooor you - CD80? My longest cycle was 65 days and I was practically chewing the legs off my kitchen table with frustration. I don't know what to say lovely other than here, have a cocktail!

Big hellos and waves to everyone else

Not much news from me really. No symptoms or developments or anything so I don't know whether I have ov'd or not; or whether I am in the 2ww; and if I am, where in the 2ww I might be. All a bit . Will try to have more interesting things to talk about next time I post!

gardenpixie thanks for the cuppa and scones :)

Hello everyone!

Garden lovely to have you back - hope you are feeling better? And at least you are not now stressing what DPO etc you with not knowing when you ov'd etc - just see what the next few weeks bring!

Josie hey - it is ok to feel a bit down but remember it can take on average 18 months for normal fertile couples to get pregnant so we really do have to keep our witts during the process. It aint easy I know! If it's any consolation I totally think I am out this month - already feel like ERTD is approaching and I am not even due until Friday - grim huh?

Alien hope you are feeling better you poor thing - sounds like you should not have ventured into work at all today. I hope you feel better - and the sofa is the best place for you! Get yourself a nice hot water bottle and blanket.

Cave am sorry you are feeling shitty about ERTD - I wish there was something I could say to make you feel better. Do you think you should visit the GP again and demand for some tests to be done? I have never heard that you have to wait for 6 months without ERTD before they do anything - sounds way too long doesn't it? Chin up - we are here for you to rant at xx

Tomboy sounds like you had a fun weekend! Is paintball really painful?! I hope either way you get an answer soon. Its bloody annoying not knowing whether you are here or there.

Flick your massage sounds lush - in fact I am going to take a leaf out of your book and book in some sessions of acupuncture or reflexology - having been thinking about it for weeks but still have not got around to doing it. On my list to drop into the centre this evening! The festival was fun - really busy and weather was nice.

How is everyone else on this Monday morning?

I feel pretty crappy too - although ERTD isn't due until Friday I have all the symptoms - cramps, back ache, heavy feeling down below. Aggh. at least I have few days to mentally prepare myself about rolling onto cycle 12 - how f*cking depressing. Anyway - must think positive thoughts - but pretty hard on a bloody Monday !

Here's the list- going to read through and catch up.

Monday's list
Ilovemarmite79 TTC1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD47
Pinklady76 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD41
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 5, UCL 29, CD39
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 9, UCL 28, CD35
kkas TTC#1, Cycle 13, UCL 32, CD33
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL 28, CD27
LankyLegs TTC#1, Cycle 11, UCL 27-29 CD25
JosieSmith1 TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL 28, CD25
Florin TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL 33, CD22
GardenPixie TTC#1, Cycle 9, UCL 30-35, CD24
TigerseyeMum TTC#1, Cycle , UCL 30, CD22
highheelsandequations TTC#1, Cycle 14 UCL 32, CD22
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL 28-33, CD21
Ariesgirl TTC#1, Cycle 7, UCL 27-33, CD20
Toriajayne TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL 30, CD16
Yumstepmum TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD13
cookie moo TTC#1, Cycle 18, UCL 26, CD13
evilgiraffe TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28?, CD10
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 2 UCL ?, CD4
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL ?, CD2
Puppygirl TTC#1 CYCLE 7 UCL 29-31 CD2

TBC
TanteAC TTC#1, Cycle?, UCL?, CD?

Not counting days
CaveMum
MissFlick
Mrs Kaloki
Miffles
Chalky3
Truffkin
DessieLou
Zippys

Recent Graduates
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July
Saor Alba BFP 7 August
MrsWajs BFP 13 August
stegasaurus BFP 27 August
Roamfree BFP 1st September
Kurlyvoice BFP 1st September
Crazybutterflylady 1st September
Cherrycobbler 3rd September
Crazydays 4th September
Bellaby 11th September

Hi Lanky sorry you are feeling grotty and ERTD-ish... I know it's hard to stay positive but we can all stay positive for you if you want? Sending crossed fingers and lots of started-the-thread-so-must-get-pg thoughts xx

Only me again :)

What is with all the sickly Frolickers :( ? I am feeling crap too- I always get a hideous hormone migraine type headache on day 2 of ERTD. It makes me feel sick and will not go away no matter what I take. I also feel a bit coldy too today though so I wonder if I?ve caught garden or alien?s nasty virus? It was definitely a good day for me to get my blood tests done as my hormones make me feel crap on day 2! They are testing me for 7 things...GuruGarden is this a little excessive? It was bloody expensive I just hope my insurance company will cover the cost... EEEKKK!

Anyway, enough about me!

So glad you?re better garden I was beginning to worry about you! You are also sounding very Zen like despite your confusion :) Has your consultant asked to se yo at any more points in your cycle or do you just need to wait it out now? EEEEKK!

cave I was thinking about you on the way to my blood tests. I wonder whether trying reflexology might be an idea. I?m sure it?s a coincidence but my ERTD arrived 3 days after my session... The man told me that it helps to get the blood flow circulating properly and makes sure that all organs get what they need as most people?s bodies are all out of alignment and the chi is not balanced apparently Maybe it?s worth a try? I like josie?s advice about saying your tired and having a little wallow at work. Now, I don?t mean to give you false hopes or anything but if you are now having un-protected sex your ERTD might never arrive a la kurly - just a small thought for you... I am totally with you on the cycle

josie Oh men are such pains at times aren?t they?! The annoying thing is that with his silly man logic he will actually think he was doing a nice thing by not waking you! I?m glad you left him a nice note to wake up too They need to be told sometimes! Well done for resisting the poas urge hun :)

alien sorry you?re sick and have ERTD a double whammy :( Glad you came home though- teaching is the worst job when you are even just a little off colour. Look after yourself today and watch something nice on i-player. Sorry the rumour upset you- again, silly men! Have to say I am of your flat tum- hope that cheers you up :)

tomboy you are my hero to play paintball! Mr. F has been a few times and comes home covered in the most awful bruises. So you have only one more day until your longest cycle length? Will you test tomorrow or wait until Weds? Hang in there hun- we will try to keep you strong.

Talking of bruises... raspberry and higheels!!! Those moves sound like torture! Although V. Impressed by you both :) Perhaps we should have a meet up so you can try Porn Star cocktails and show us your moves after a few

toria sounds promising- keep going with the SWI!

lanky My massage was lovely! I?m really lucky as things like massages and all beauty treatments are SO cheap so I can pamper myself without paying a fortune! The reflexology was also really cheap- I will die when I move back to England and have to pay proper money for things! September is going to be your health kick month isn?t it? Sorry you are feeling crap and think that ERTD is on the way...I know you know this but lots of people have said that is how they felt before they got their BFP so hang in there chick. Echo the started- the- thread- must- get- pregnant- thoughts! :)

mrsW I was thinking... seeing as you work in a hospital, is there any chance you could get a sneaky scan? I know it probably doesn?t happen but I always imagine pregnant nurses and doctors just scanning themselves willy nilly!

Right, off to watch the last 20 mins or so of Strictly- am loving it that Ola Jordan got paired with Paul Daniels. He he!!

Hi MissFlick I reckon 7 sounds about right - presumably it's things like cholesterol and insulin as well as hormones? Best to get as many things sorted in one go as it all goes towards getting the right help.

My consultant reckons I should just wait until my next cycle - she's happy to give me another scan but, given I'm going private so would have to pay, she said it's probably cheaper just to wait it out. Either I'll be pg or not, and given that, if I'm not, she'll be upping the dose of clomid regardless of whether I ov'd or not (apparently she wants me to ov sooner than CD 21 / 22) that there's not much to scan for.

Obviously easier to counsel patience than actually to display it! I might try a spot of pampering treatment to take my mind off it!

When do you get your results back? Fingers crossed they are all fine xx

Thanks again to the gardenhelpline :) My results should be back tomorrow! Apparently, The doctor will phone me...

The tests are: E2, LH, FSH, Prolactin, T4, TSH and DS (just copied them from my receipt!)

I think you're patient because you have A Plan. When we have a plan we can be a bit more patient I find! :) That's great that your consultant is honest about costs etc. What was your Clomid dose this time round?

Very thorough tests MissFlick echo garden and hope they are all fine - its so brill you get to find out tomorrow! The joys of medical insurance and going private hey. Make the most if it - same with all the treatments - I would most certainly do the same. Keeping fingers crossed for you xx

And thank you both Flick and garden for positive thoughts. Will try the same - but find it is best to prepare oneself for worst case scenario so as not to be disappointed!

Enjoy strictly - I love the fact that Oleh and PD got matched - really how long are they going to stay in? The price she pays for being last years champion. I wonder if there is loads of bitching between all the professionals - I imagine there is!

Hi flick, just checked my blood results and they are all ones I was tested for too. Great that they can get back to you tomorrow - hurrah!

Yes I am lucky that my consultant realises I do not have all the money in the world to spend on tests and scans etc! She said that a lot of women she sees just want to go straight for IVF but that she has a lot of faith in a combination of clomid and nature!

My first clomid dose was 50mgs so next cycle will be 100mg. I have had very few side effects so am quite chilled about upping the dose although I did have quite dramatic mood swings last week - which DH took pretty well! I was fairly ferocious when he ate a piece of chocolate cake I'd been saving for me pudding ...