'The Frolickers Return' Come grab a place in the penthouse and join us for more antics as we sit back sip pornstars and trial hot off the press skincare products... all while we keeeeep shaggin!

[LankyLegs]

Settle down girls settle down as I hand you all a yummy pornstar cocktail complete with a sparkler and tacky umbrella. I take it we are all wearing our fabulous vintage 50's frocks, high heels and have our red lipstick on? Make yourself comfortable in the penthouse... the naked butlers are just heading in with grapes and truffles in trays...

All new first timers welcome - as long as suitable goodies and alcohol are dropped into the penthouse for all to share.

Oh and no AF around here - only FERTD.... Capishe??

womanly you're right, we have gone through this thread so quickly...! Halfway to a new one in fact!!

Sounds like you're really enjoying the running. I did a running plan to get myself started before a 10k and really enjoyed it. Once you get past the first 15-20 mins I think you tend to find it a bit easier... if you get that far. I often get to 14 minutes or so and give up

Hi womanly thanks for asking - I haven't rescheduled my scan as I think it might be a bit late now. No ov-ing pains any more so I'm not sure whether it would show anything up. I think what I'll do is schedule a scan for later in my cycle next month to avoid confusion.

And spotting seems to have stoppped

xx

Hello loves - just popping in to say hi inbetween plannning meetings for my project.

Will catch up properly this evening!

Booo! Hate being busy as I don't get any mumsnet time. Boo Hoo.

just popping in to join in on the running talk. i recently took it up (about 7 weeks ago) and used a plan which started you running 1 minute, walking 1 minute and repeating 10 times. but then you slowing work up to 2 mins, 3 mins, etc. obviously i was very unfit and others might be able to start at 5/5 or 10/10. anyway, today i was so proud of myself since i managed to run 20 minutes non-stop (which i have never done in my entire life). my goal is to be running 30 minutes straight in 2 weeks time. it also helps not to try to run to fast - they say you should be able to carry on a conversation and if you can't, you're going too fast. that has really helped me in building up my stamina and now i find that even by the end of my run, i am still breathing "relatively" normally.

i agree with womanly that you can get into the zone and paying attention to your breath helps with the meditative aspect, although i also agree there are some days you just can't seem to find the rhythm!

Hi Loves,

Thanks for your compliments on my name change! V. impressed with HRHCavey :) With your sponge like brain you will sail through your course chick.

Just got back from my reflexology- was v.relaxing! He recommended going once a week (of course he did!) so I am booked in for next week too. He spoke lots about how reflexology can help to balance the body's chi and can help in regulating cycles/balancing hormones etc. Even if it doesn't work it's really nice to have your feet rubbed for an hour!

Thanks so much for your GI info womanly and garden I often wonder what I did before this forum?! Anyone else think the same?! One of the books I have ordered is the Rick Gallop book so am pleased you recommended it! I will send you an email in a bit so I can see your lovely spreadsheet until it arrives if that's ok? So excited to hear the positive stories from you two :) lets hope it works for me too. Where are you off to on holiday? will you test when you're away if no ERTD or wait til you're home? I think I remember you saying that you were going for two weeks and with your parents?

garden that spotting sounds v. promising.... I think that you must have ov'd and now it is min garden bedding in! I'm sure the clomid worked for you as you felt so good on it- it must have been doing it's job.

crazy bet you're getting excited about your holiday! Will you tell the friends that you're going to see or try and keep it a secret? I have been to Buenos Aires!!! (the restaurant I mean!)My lovely friend, the one I always mention who is having her baby on Fri, took me there. It was divine! Sorry to hear you are feeling bloaty- dresses and tights are the way forward for you my dear. Or you could treat your self to just one pair of maternity trousers??? :)

Your coq au vin sounds lush josie Especially those garlicky potatoes MMMMM just waiting for Mr. F to dish my tea up as I type. Laughed so much at you being a crazy, baby snatcher lady

kkas that program sounds just right for me. I think I could manage running one minute and walking one x 10. So impressed that you ran for 20 whole minutes!! and you womanly with how far you can run! I will definitely give the running/walking a go over the weekend. Also, a good tip about the speed :) How are things with your dh? Have you had anymore thoughts about the counseling?

Morning lanky :) Don?t work too hard. Have you managed to pick up your CBFM yet and have you made your appointment for your blood test?I?m eager to see how your thyroid levels have changed- I know they will be perfect and will be proven by the bun you already have in your oven :) I hate you being busy too!

Thanks for popping in to share your wisdom saor It?s so good to know that you can get a BFP so late. Still following you all everyday on the grads xx

Hi flick!

I have already told the friends we are visiting because while the boys are going for a long cycle, me and my friend are having a spa day - so I had to change the treatments I was having. They're very excited :)

I am a bit scared about tempting fate by buying maternity stuff - I don't know how long that will last since my (.)(.)s are about to explode so am going to have to bite the bullet and buy a maternity bra I think.

garden I agree with flick... chances are there could be a mini garden bedding down in there!

lanky :( miss you!

x

Afternoon everybody!
All this running lark is making me feel very guilty. I was a member of the gym but just don't like it there so may try running as we have a beautiful deer park just minutes from our house. The one minute run then one minute walk sounds a nice not scary way to start then build up from there.
I am bored of the 2ww wait already I so want to test.
Josie sorry to hear you are having a crap time at work too I hate it when there is an atmosphere that is what it's like at my place too
cagey very impressed with you doing your course. It's lovely you are studying something you love. I have a degree but hated subject so would love to have the opportunity to study something I was interested in

Let's try it together then florin shall we? Hope time speeds for you in this 2ww. Hope work is ok today. Still laughing at an image of you wandering round London with life jackets

crazy the spa day sounds lovely :) Sorry if you had already mentioned that you'd told your friends and changed your treatment, brain like a sieve at times and now I think I recall you mentioning it before

womanly you've got mail :)

Look what's back!! keeeep shagging!

missflick loving ur name and so have to type it all in instead of just the first word -- Email replied to.

Just popped in to say - I keep getting pain on the right side of my tummy and then these weird shock waves in my breast.... ALL this fuss and it could be an anovulatory cycle... I mean really, can't my body just be normal & predictable (if that's what normal bodies do...) LOL

Will respond to the thread in the evening - (Quickly changes screen to pretend she's hard at work)
oh and pssss - garden - Very promising signs with the spotting.. fingers crossed for you hon.

On my way to a meeting but just wanted to pop my head in to say hello

Evening all, how are we all today?

Well, no further news from me, feeling a bit sicky but nothing too exciting - still no ERTD and I'm now on cycle day 31 of my normal 28 day cycle. I have twice had 30 day cycles but not for a very long time and once, a long time ago while I was on a funny pill I had a 35 day cycle. That said, I am literally feeling too scared to test girls, I desperately want it to be positive and know that this it is going to knock me for six if it comes back BFN. I told my friend today and she has suggested waiting until Saturday and I am now thinking maybe even Sunday. I dont want to test first thing in the morning then run away to work, I want to do it when me and DP are home together for the day then if it is positive we can just enjoy the time on our own you know? It also wont be the end of the stress for me as I will have to have an early scan at around the 4/5 week mark as I am identified as a slightly higher risk of ectopic pregnancy due to having a condition that affects the cilia that carry the fertilized egg into the next place. Im so confused, very emotional and just want to cry. blahhhhh!!!! whatever is wrong with me.

Sorry for me, me, me!!

Anyways - Bellaby I would deffo suggest just giving the OU a ring and talking through what you are looking for. They will be able to give you a rough idea of the amount of time you need to invest. They have always been superb with me, Ive been lucky with tutors who are always supportive and I prefer home study, I hate sitting listening to someone lecturing me, I just dont take it in. Check out the website, theres some really useful stuff on there if you are thinking about doing something. www.openuniversity.co.uk

Cavey I like your new name HRH, do we have to kurtsy wurtsy from now on? [smile). No qualification is 'mickey mouse'. Even if you do something completely irrelevant to your chosen career whatever you do will still give your brain a good work out and show determination and application to something to better yourself in some way and that always makes employers very happy. I for one am very jealous of your career with horses, i would love to have done that, I love horses!

Josie you are right about tummy touching, it is not a good idea! Glad the SWI went well, my DP is not at all impressed, I have failed to put out all week having been feeling a little under the weather . He is now worried that I have shut down for nine months!!!

crazy go for it with the food, maternity trousers arent too far away, you are eating for two now!!!! (I know thats not right but hey, its an excuse!!!) Ive also had to tell a friend my ERTD is late due to a spa treatment, basically because my ERTD will either have come on by the weekend and I dont then as a result really want to waft around in a white bikini or..... eek, I might be PG! She is one of my bestest though so its ok, shes also the one whose convinced me to wait until the weekend to avoid unnecessary BFN disappointment.

MissFlick reflexology? What does that involve then? I must admit Ive heard of it but dont really know much about it?

Hi everyone else waves. Hope you all have a nice evening. xx

rasberry I am an avid POAS'er but I think your plan to wait to test sounds very sensible. Frankly as much as I hate the 2ww this wait to see if its a viable pregnancy has dragged even more, so if you possibly can hold out I would. If you're pg you're pg, and not testing won't change that! If you're not pg then seeing a BFN is sometimes worse than getting ERTD.

MissFlick and RoyalCave I am loving your new names! Glad reflexology went well, I looooved it.

Bella Oooh photography course sounds v cool. DH also has nice camera but doesn't properly know how to use it so do let me know if yo ever find a good course as I may sign him up as a pressie. Also v cool is Kent bolthole - I love living a bit away from London (am in Herts) but its not properly country. I do love the bits of Kent I've seen - particularly Sevenoaks (was it florin you lucky thing who lives there?)

alien sorry you're having a tough time. I had BFNs on 9DPO, 10DPO and 11DPO before getting BFP on eve of 12DPO. And with mrsW I seem to recall that she had a long time between her BFNs before getting her BFP. So its not over yet. Agree with the advice to banish people you can't cope with (even if its your best friend and her gorgeous babies - bad Cherry)for a while. TTC is hard and you need to make sure you are keeping yourself positive and happy.

My sniffles have turned into full blown cold. Eurgh. Am worried I'll sneeze embryo out with my massive sneezes. Sorry, possibly TMI for those of you about to eat your dinner Have finally booked docs appt for next Tues.

Alien Not over til it's over, keeping fingers crossed for you. I am another weeper, I cried my eyes out when I heard OHs best friend and his wife are having ANOTHER baby in April.

Raspberry Can totally understand your reluctance to test, even if I am of the "Pee until you can pee no more" school of TTC I think it sounds like you're being sensible about it, the longer it goes on the less likely it is that your body is just playing with you!

HRHCavey I am the proud holder of a Mickey Mouse degree (Applied Psychology) so we can stick together

MissFlick love the name change :D

Garden That sounds very promising...

Loving the reflexology recommendations, have considered it before, not necessarily for fertility, but because I generally just need to chill out so might actually get my bum in gear and go and look it up. Today was an awful day, everyone who could be horrible came into the shop and caused havoc today, by half four I was crawling the walls (that's a lie, actually I was in the window cameo trying to put fecking watches out but that's another story) and I still have a load to do on Friday now that should have been finished today thanks to previously mentioned idiots. Would crack open the wine but I don't think I have any (I know, right?) so I'm thinking a hot bath and a nap (Wow I sound old lol)

Oh blimey, I can't keep up!

Bellaby - some literature board! You're very welcome to join us over there you know, the more the merrier etc!

womanly - I've been loving swimming, I think it's because you essentially stay clean. I really dislike getting all hot and sweaty, it makes me feel really fat and ugly. Swimming is much better - no-one can hear you struggling for breath and you can't tell if you're sweating or not!

Hi frolicking ones!

cherry I took a course in digi photography last year at Morley College and loved it. It was really cheap but so informative. It's near waterloo station - have a look at their website. I know you live out a bit but they do one-day intensive and weekend courses... definitely worth a look.

Raspberry, good work holding out for the test... i have everything crossed for you, we haven't had a BFP for a few days now so we are definitely due one, this being the most lucky thread ever! I am not denying myself anything on the food front - that's my problem! I have gone off chocolate and sweets and basically anything sweet and just want bread, potatoes, pasta etc. I had to force fruit down when I got home tonight because I have eaten all stodge today :( oops. I have had reflexology a few times now and LOVE it. they basically rub your feet very lightly, then put light pressure on areas which represent different areas of your body. It's said to correct any blockages or imbalances in your system and if you have a specific 'issue' like say TTC or backache, they can relieve it through your feet. Cynical old me...i'm not usually one for all this spiritual lark but I actually found it helped me and some of the areas the therapists mentioned were really accurate. give it a whirl!

flick i am so excited about Strictly!!! Gutted that I will miss the launch this weekend (Q: is it bad form to ask your friends if you can all stay in on saturday night just to watch it? They get BBC out there?!!) but hoping it will be on iPlayer. Felicity Kendall to win!!!

toria sorry to hear you've had a rubbish day... hope the bath helped

Hope you all have a nice evening, catch you tomorrow xx

Hi everyone,

Sorry for my absence, never seem to have a minute spare at the moment, don't know where my time goes! Thanks for the wishes of luck for phoning the clinic. I am officially rubbish at complaining. Phoned on Tuesday and left a message. The secretary phoned back and I managed to not mention that I was annoyed, not complain and just say that I wanted to know what I'm supposed to do next. She promised to ring me back yesterday and didn't. She phoned me today and lefyt a message saying my consultant hasn't been working in the clinic this week and she hasn't managed to see him, but will pass on the message and get back to me ASAP. So I am basically no further forward than I was and annoyed at myself for not being more assertive. Very tempted now to just take the rest of my clomid next cycle (have just about enough left for 1 cycle at 50 mg).

womanly thanks for the extra set of fingers. I admire your perseverance with the running. I tried it last summer but don't have the stamina or the self discipline.

Lanky thanks for the advice re ov sticks. Went for the digital ones as less to obsess over whether lines are different colours but have now ordered 100 cheap sticks from ebay. Next I need to work out how to do them during the day at school! I used to really like the GP I saw on Monday, but he's really annoyed me and I don't like him anymore. I am also desperately looking forward to my year off!

MissFlick sorry I didn't manage to be assertive. Thanks for the additional crossed fingers. Acupuncture very soon now, will let you know how it goes. Definitely need The Three Follicles in the new thread. Glad you had a lovely reflexology session and hope you find the GI diet good. I went on a GI plan a few years back for a while and have tried to stick losely to the principles ever since as it seems to stop the sugar cravings and help stabilise my weight.

Cherry sorry you're not managing to get excited yet. Love the way you told DH, so sweet. Hope yor cold gets better soon and glad you have your doctors appointment booked.

kkas hope you enjoy the break. I sometimes think i should try to stop thinking about it so much and let fate take over, but I can't manage it.

crazy You're allowed to go bonkers now, it's an official symptom!

Toria thanks for the good luck, although I was rubbish on the phone! I'm envious of your nursery. I don't dare allocate any space or anything until we've managed to get pregnant, and even then will probably be too superstitious until the last minute. Sorry you've had a crap day. Wait till you just want a bath and a nap every night (even Friday) and you're going to bed at 9pm, then you'll feel really old :o

garden spotting sounds positive whether it's implantation or ovulation. Fingers crossed extra tightly for you. xxxx

Josie how exciting that you have baby stuff already.

evil I have alse joined fertility friend, so many things to observe and track and monitor and obsess over! I joined a nice gym with a swimming pool thinking it would be relaxing to swim once or twice a week but never get round to it, usually I'm very lazy with my hair removal and too embarrassed to swim with hairy legs or an overgrown bikini line!

kurly thanks for the gingerbread and very impressed with the positivity. I know it's so hard not to worry about absolutely everything.

Truffkin thanks for the brownies, definitely needed just now. Hope the SWI plans are going well and hope you can sneak off for long enough at the PILs :o

Florin sorry work has been rubbish. Hope you enjoyed the drinks.

Raspberry the GP was definitely from the school of "how to patronise your patients". Thanks for the aloe vera advice. My hand is mostly healed now, which is good, although I was slightly disappointed it didn't hurt long enough to get some real sympathy :) Very impressed with your OU and work and life. Don't think I could manage. What are you studying? My pole classes are starting up again next week and looking foreward to getting back, although not looking forward to the bruises. What's your favourite move? I'm so impressed with your restraint about POAS, I never would have lasted this long, nevermind until Saturday. Completely understand your reasons though. Good luck!

Bella I'm jealous of your steak and chip lunch, although I do have a tasty frittata packed in my lunchbox for tomorrow. Sorry about the BFN but good news about the appointment. Here's to Christmas announcements Yes acupuncture is the sticking needles in, will let you know what it's like tomorrow. And did phone the clinic, was rubbish and still have no answers.

Tomboy I'm impressed with the cycling. And fingers crossed ERTD stays away.

Alien sorry about the BFN, but as has been mentioned, it ain't over yet.

HRHCavey love the new name.

Right, think I am finally caught up. Sorry if I've missed anyone. Still no signs of ovulation here. Trying to keeeeep shagging anyway just on the offchance but it's so difficult during the week now I'm bakc at work. I get up earlier than DP (I leave the house before he gets up) and so go to bed earlier. When he comes to bed he just wants to sleep, even if I've been waiting up for him, so there aren't too many opportunities. And I can't just hope that all my fertile days are at the weekend. Will have to try and think of some new strategies I think.

Now I need to go, was going to get an early night tonight but now it's 7 1/2 hours till I have to get up and I'm still on the computer. Again, where does the time go?

Night night all
xxx

Evening frolickers and my you can chat! Am having a pretty rubbish week at work so ensuring plenty of JSing in the evenings is keeping me going with a smile on my face

Am very excited for Strictly, although I'm a bit of a geek and really don't enjoy the rubbish ones (am already hoping that Paul Daniels, Ann Widdecombe and Peter Shilton get booted out pretty quick). I am a bit of an addict though so already looking forward to a Sunday morning watching the recorded launch show as we're out for a friend's birthday on Saturday night.

I also wanted to report back on my first reflexology session today. I enjoyed it and felt really relaxed (almost light headed) afterwards. Also, I mentioned TTCing and the therapist spent a bit of extra time in the reproductive area and assured me that everything felt ok. I have some tightness in my shoulders and back so she's doing a sports / deep tissue massage next week as I'm going for fortnightly reflexology sessions and using the middle week for a pamper treatment (starting with this massage then maybe facials, pedicures etc) so am very much looking forward to some treats!

Hope you've all had lovely nights, hope to catch up a bit more tomorrow if work allows....

in case you don t know the ballot for strictly audience tickets is now open on the bbc website. I can t fly soön so can t apply and baby is due the day before the strictly final!

V. quick pop in to say hi :) My usual morning MN catch up time was rudely disturbed this morning how dare work get in the way of my chatting on MN?!

I'll do the list quickly and then be back later on to catch up.

Just want to say big thanks to womanly for the email- it is super helpful :) You are wonderful for sharing that with me. Lets hope it works as well for me as it does you :)

crazy Def Felicity Kendall to win I'm sure it will be on I-player. It better be or I am in trouble!

Back later xxxx

Thursday's list
Ilovemarmite79 TTC1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD43
Pinklady76 TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD37
IfAtFirstYouDon'tSuceed TTC#1, Cycle 5, UCL 29, CD35
Bellaby TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL ?, CD33
RaspberryTipple TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL ?, CD32
TomboyWife TTC#1, Cycle 9, UCL 28, CD31
Alien06 TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL ?, CD29
kkas TTC#1, Cycle 13, UCL 32, CD29
Karstan TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL 28, CD23
LankyLegs TTC#1, Cycle 11, UCL 27-29 CD21
JosieSmith1 TTC#1, Cycle 3, UCL 28, CD21
Florin TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL 33, CD18
GardenPixie TTC#1, Cycle 9, UCL 30-35, CD20
TigerseyeMum TTC#1, Cycle , UCL 30, CD18
highheelsandequations TTC#1, Cycle 14 UCL 32, CD18
Womanlytales TTC#1, Cycle 6, UCL 28-33, CD17
Ariesgirl TTC#1, Cycle 7, UCL 27-33, CD16
Toriajayne TTC#1, Cycle 2, UCL 30, CD12
Yumstepmum TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28, CD9
cookie moo TTC#1, Cycle 18, UCL 26, CD9
evilgiraffe TTC#1, Cycle 1, UCL 28?, CD6

TBC
TanteAC TTC#1, Cycle?, UCL?, CD?

Not counting days
CaveMum
MissFlick
Kaloki ( 2 days 'til Wedding !!!)
Miffles
Chalky3
Truffkin
DessieLou
Zippys

Recent Graduates
Seablue BFP 1 May
Oneof8 BFP 18 May
Aly323 BFP 20 May
applecharlotte BFP 29 May
papertiger BFP 31 May
Wannamummy BFP 1 June
Pipsicles BFP 6 June
Muser BFP 22 June
Superpenguin BFP 1 July
Haloflo BFP 22 July
Saor Alba BFP 7 August
MrsWajs BFP 13 August
stegasaurus BFP 27 August
Roamfree BFP 1st September
Kurlyvoice BFP 1st September
Crazybutterflylady 1st September
Cherrycobbler 3rd September
Crazydays 4th September

Good luck to any POASers this morn :) xx

Oh dear, Could I use any more smileys do you think?! Must be the reflexology making me extra cheerful. Must regulate usage!

Morning ladies!

Just a drive-by me-me-me post before running for the train to work.

CD31 and still no AF. My boobs are slightly sore down the sides now though, so I'm less sure that I'm un-pg. I really should test tonight or tomorrow morning as we're going to a barbecue tomorrow evening and I'd like to know whether I can drink. At least there's a built-in consolation prize if it's a BFN.

oooh tomboy getting so excited for you! don't want to urge you to test too early but really keeping my fingers crossed :)

flick no need to apologise about the :) we all love your bright posts each day! things are going well with DH. haven't tried SWI in a few days, but getting lots of cuddles and kisses. haven't suggested counselling yet. think i might just take this break until xmas and then if still nothing, maybe we could talk about it in the context of a new year's resolution. i have been very good about my break so far - thermometer and TTC books are no where to be seen and haven't mentioned baby-related things for days. glad i have you guys here to keep me sane though!

highheels don't beat yourself up about your call to the clinic. i think it took a lot of courage to just call back in the first place so well done! maybe you are right about just taking the rest of your clomid and then chasing up the dr for another appointment. i also know how it is about hoping for fertile days on the weekend. it's just so hard to fit everything in, isn't it? and i find the pressure on DH is even higher when we try to do it during the week when we're both tired and stressed. not sure what to say other than i hear ya and feel free to moan as much as you like. it's all just not fair!

hi to everyone else :) just wanted to give a short lecture reminder to everyone to lock their doors securely at night and don't leave keys/handbags out in plain sight. DH and i were awakened this morning by sound of someone trying to force the door. DH got up to see what the sound was but couldn't see anyone, so luckily they must have run away when they heard him. someone was def trying to break in though cuz we found marks on the double glazing on the outside of the door this morning so glad DH was there as i would not have been brave enough to get up to see what was happening and they probably would have broken in. as it is, it has been a big wake up call to remind us to be better about putting the double bolt on, setting alarm, closing all windows and putting away keys/handbags, etc. this world can be a scary place sometimes

Need to make a correction to the list. Only 1 day till wedding! Or to be exact, 25 hours and 45 minutes to go!

kkas! I'm glad your DH was there too- so glad you're both ok, and that you woke up to the noise! Glad your break is going well, it's quite nice to not be so obsessed isn't it? I am quite enjoying this brief respite from craziness. I think it's a great idea to see how things are and then mention as a new years resolution,although I think that the thermometer and books being away will help your DH relax too and before you know you'll be SWI ing like a goodun and you'll be a member of The Christmas Club too! I need to take a leaf out of your book and not mention TTC (or where is my F'ing period) to Mr. Flick as I imagine it must get pretty tiresome.

tomboy I told you that I didn't think you'd had an anovulatory cycle.... I shall say no more but here, have a to take your mind off it. Test tomorrow morning, then your pee will be nice and strong

Oh lucky so sad about the ballot. I would have been there like a shot if I was still in England :( I'm really excited about your Christmas buddle. I'd love a Christmas baby to go with my obsession for all things Christmas so I really do think you're very lucky in deed.

I loved my reflexology too truffkin. I felt lightheaded afterwards too and very relaxed. How have you felt today? I've had loads more energy than usual. I'm sure it will have us up in the duff in no time at all! I also, don't really like the crap ones on strictly. Feel sorry for whoever is Paul Daniel's partner

highheelsepicposter! my turn to be jealous of your food- your frittata sounds so yum. Glad your hand is better now. Despite my encouragement, I am a crap complainer and there is nothing that you can do if your consultant was away. I have read on another thread on here that OPKs are not very reliable when you are taking clomid so perhaps you have already ovulated and the surge has not been detected? I would also be very tempted to take all of the Clomid for the next cycle (should you have one of course :) ) On the threads I was reading yesterday some of the ladies were saying that they had doses of up to 150mg so I am sure that 50mg is absolutely fine.

raspberry crazy has given a good run down of Reflexology- you should try it. Any news on the POAS? Still be restrained?

Hope you have a better day at work today toriaand you should try reflexology too :)

crazy Enjoy your holiday- not sure if you will get the chance to come on tomorrow so I will say bye now! Take care honey and enjoy the spaxxx

Morning bella, lanky and garden I've been fannying around for ages doing this so I bet I've x-post with you all xxx