Charters Anonymous : Volume 2

[chocciechip]

Volume 2 starts here ladies!

dani I had a look at your chart and there's no 'thermal shift' so it doesn't look like you've OVed yet :(

Do you know why your cycles are so long?

digi take care, come back soon xx

Hi all, had the scan which showed up absolutely nothing again. Got to wait for HCG results again. This waiting about lark is a nightmare. Saw the top consultant who said she'll scan me herself if the results don't show a clear miscarriage. They're not ruling out an implantation somewhere unknown... I'm ok about whatever they find. Will obviously be sad but have to fab DCs to make it easier. Just want to know!!

Dani I agree with Newyears, but your other signs look good so get at it!!!

You sound really strong Ell11!! I really hope you find out what is soon.

Newyearsday, When I came off of the pill in October it took 5 months for my period to return since then I have had some 35-40 day cycles and then after taking EPO (not sure if this is why) my periods have stopped again :(. They thought there was a strong chance I have PCOS but scan was clear and blood tests not conclusive. I have got to wait for AF to arrive and then have more tests between CD1 and 5.

It is great that something is happening ie more CM but I am confused that it is not EWCM but my cervix is very high soft and open?? I have not been thinking too much about temps at the moment as I have had a cold and know I sleep with my mouth open. I might start temping from the other end next cycle (eek)

Will keep thinking happy thoughts and think I might get the Agnus Castus out of the cupboard today and keep SWI!!

FF has now said I have Ov'd, not sure myself but will have to wait and see

Dani I don't know about being strong! Had a little cry earlier on! Just trying to keep it together I think- I have a faith which maybe helps me keep a good perspective on things. Though lots of people also manage to keep it together without any particular beliefs! BTW I conceived this month with no sign of EWCM, just wet, creamy CM.

I've had results of hormone test- 2600. It was 1600 two days ago and 760 two days before that so it seems to be slowing down. I've got to be scanned by the consultant tomorrow morning and be prepared for surgery if they find something abnormal. They seem to be just as confused about what's going as I am! I feel a bit like a freak of nature.

Ell souns utterly bizarre what is goign on, how upsetting for you. I am really glad you have a faith which is helping sustain you. Hope all goes well for tomorrow. Kepp posting!

keeping my fingers crossed for you Ell11 x

Thinking of you Ell11, hope everything goes ok for you xxxxxx

sorry to hijack but can anyone contact emptyshell IRL? IS she OK?

No Stealth at least not me, I don't know her in IRL . Anyone else? Empty, it you're lurking you don't have to post, just let us know you are OK?

Sorry, i don't know empty in RL. Sorry to hear you're worried about her - hope all is ok.

ladygaga Glad to hear I have an underactive thyroid friend My result was 9.07 and doc said it should be 0.4 - 4.5. Does that sound really bad to you or not too bad??? Be honest

I really hope the tablets stop the feelings in my legs - they are driving me mad. Doc said she thinks the thyroid is causing the restless leg and tiredness so I hope it is resposible for the pin pricks in legs too.

dani Good luck with the SWI - you must be at your bloody wits end with ths cycle -

I'm a week late with this article, nevertheless, I am posting the link here for others who have had MCs to read as well: Miscarriage: a mother's last taboo.

I don't quite know how to say this as I don't really know how I'm feeling. Bit numb. I had to go to A & E again last night but this time the pain was unbearable. The gynae consultant finally found the missing pregnancy sac outside my womb during a scan. They operated first thing this morning and had to remove my remaining tube as it had ruptured.

I am so sorry to be posting more bad news on this thread as you are all so thoughtful and caring. I know you are already worried about Empty.

I cannot believe the journey I've had in the last couple of weeks from the time I joined this thread - I was expecting to be with you all a lot longer!

Sorry- in hospital and trying to do this on my phone - it won't let me write any more than the above each time!

I have 2 beautiful daughters and through this happening I have become even more grateful to have them- both my tubes could so easily have done this before they came along. I had surgery to unblock them both which left me at high risk of ectopics.

It's going to be hard accepting that this is it now. My TTC journey is over. I think I'll be ok though. I'd like to stay here for a little while longer if that's ok? Just to see how you all get on! Might stick my oar in every now and again.
Lots of love xx

Oh ell11 I don't know what to say. I am so sorry to hear your sad news. I hope your faith helps you and your DH to stay strong through this. Much love Bessie xx

ell11 Logged in before going to bed to see how you were. I'm so so sorry to hear your news. x

Ell11 I am so so sorry to hear your news, how awful for you :( I think you are very brave and looking at the fact that you have your beautiful girls is also a good thing but nevertheless you must be devastated. Please look after yourself and take it as easy as you can, your body and mind will take some healing - of course we would love for you to stay! Really though, for now please just take it as easy as you can. xx

Choccie i read that last week, it made me really sad. I have only had two MS which in the grand scheme of things (and 4dc's) isnt that bad and compared to some of the stories in that article makes me feel extremely lucky.

Salad i only made it to 13dpo as well as started red spotting last night and woke up to find AF had got me this morning. This is made all the worse by me taking a test yesterday morning and it coming up with two lines! They came up within 3 minutes and the second one was really clear, DH was over the moon but i was a bit worried as the background of the test hadnt gone white like usual and stayed pink and i have had this happen (poas addict) before when the pink dye has flooded the test and given a false positive. I rushed out and bought a FR and it was of course negative :( I took another one last night just before i started spotting and it was neg too. Bloody bloody test! That second line was pink and strong so im a bit as to what happened there but never mind - am on cd1 again!

I finally started my first chart with FF, can you tell me if you need to enter your data at the same time every day or can you just enter it later and put down the time that you took your temp?

Oh Ell that is awful and I am so so sorry. You're in my prayers if that's OK?

Ell I'm so sorry to hear your devastating news. You sound so very strong, be kind to yourself and each other xx

Stealth Sorry I don't know Empty in RL either. We're thinking about her too, hope she's ok.

Dani thanks for catch up, what were your cycles like pre-pill? Hope OV did happen this weekend, you've had a long old wait!

I am so sorry to hear your news Ell you must be so gutted Lots of love is being sent to you and your family.

Newyearsday I started taking the pill when I was 15 due to bad period pains, to be honest I can't remember what they were like before, I didn't keep track of them but I know I had them regularly but they could have been long cycles I suppose (not as long as this one!)

My cervix has now dropped and CM is a bit less and (sorry if TMI) not as slippery. My temp was low this morning but my other half did say I snored like a trooper so am wondering if that is why. I don't think oral temping is very good for me as I know that I do sleep with my mouth open and I do snore I am tempting to use another method after I finally get AF. I really hope I have Ov'd now I just want AF to arrive so I can get on with the next cycle!

Bank Holiday wishes to you all x

rosieposey could it have been a CP? Or maybe just a dodgy test. interesting what you said about the background not turning white. So sorry it wasn't the good news it suggested.

ell I am so so sorry to hear your news. I am so impressed with your positive attitude about your daughters and the fact that you could have lost your tubes before having them which would have been devastating. But you must be so heartbroken my love. I guess you're really lucky they found it when they did or your own life could have been at risk - how frightening and upsetting this all must have been for you. So was the sac in your remaining tube, why didn't they spot it at the other scans?

I agree with what you say about it making you appreciate what you have. I've got 2 boys and have had 2 MC's this year and each time I just kept thinking, "God, that could have happened with one of my boys and I wouldn't have them now." It does make you thankful for what you have but it is still all crap Please, please do hang about here for a while. We would like to know that your healing and ok and you can always (as you say) still your oar in where necessary. Sending love to you, your DH (who must have been so scared last night) and your lovely girls . xxx

As for me - today is the due date for my MMC in february I have been ok - I think cos I'm on the two week wait so I have some hope. Someone on the 40+ thread got AF on her previous due date - that is soooo crap.

I said to DH are you sad cos we were meant to get our baby today? He said, no cos we are meant to get one next spring instead. Easy for him to bloody say .

We have 2 boys born in the spring and he is convinced we are meant to get a spring baby - by that reconing I'd better be preg this month - no pressure then!!!

I haven't thought about my EDD much consciously recently but I have had 2 weird dreams:-

1 where I was heavily preg and I kept telling everyone I was 40 weeks today and going to the hospital. Then I said "It's odd actually cos I'm sure i had a couple of MC's this year and loads of periods but I still seem to be 40 weeks!!"

2 where I found a dead baby buried in the park and had to call the police - that one was horrid and shows I am freaky in my brain!!!

ell stick your oar in - not still your oar in

Ell11, I am so sorry to hear that :( It puts all of my minor niggles in to perspective. Hope you have got plenty of RL support xx

Thank you all for your messages- silver your prayers are much appreciated.

I don't know why they didn't find it on the scans at first- perhaps because it hadn't ruptured the tube. When I got the really bad pain on Saturday night (not the best time to choose to go to A & E!) they sent me straight to the womens health ward for a scan and it took the consultant on duty ages to find it. It was right at the end of the tube near the ovary.

Hippy what have you been eating? Dreams like that make you feel really wierd afterwards. Hope you don't have any more!

Note to self - no cheese before bed tonight.

hope you are ok ell. really feel for you and as others have said it puts my complaints in the shade. Take care, honey xxx