30s TTC: Summertime, and the diffin's easy. White goods are jumping and the WOOFLing is high. MSDP in full swing.

[MountTheFairy]

The one before the BESHory Towers. Easy one for summer: I have dug up a fishing pond in the middle of the Palace, put a roof light over it, got some fishin' sticks and put some Gershwin on. Salad's providing Elderflower Fizz, served by newbs in topless bikinis. Could life be better?

Oh I wish you could Stinker, can you make it to somerset for first thing tomorrow? I've made about 3 kilos of burgers, but more always welcome as I am married to carnivore. Still haven't made the birthday cake (she has demanded a fucking castle cake) or the diary-free sugar-free cake for the freaks among us (me included). The house needs hoovering and dusting AGAIN... I mean, I did it on Tuesday ffs. The dog has rolled in badger shit and needs a bath. The gargantuan wooden wendy house thing that she is getting for her birfday still needs putting together (TG's job for later) and I'm off to work in a mo.

Oooh yeah... that hits the spot stinky

Actually I'm in the West Cuntree so theoretically could pop round. I've got nowt much on this weekend, and I'm not shy of putting together a bit of flat pack. The badger shit is all yours though (and I did actually LOL when I read that). Hope it goes ok. Oh yes, hoovering..yes I'm sure I did mine recently too, ahem (sweeps enormous pile of twigs/dust/cat hair/crumbs/dried slugs on the floor under the sofa).

Tenuous... Bloody 'Ell Sexa Holics

But I think I know the real one - is it Barren Evil Selfish Hags? Or was I misled?

PooHole I did one in May by virtue of being too disorganised to pay somewhere to host my party. Start praying to the weather goddess now I say. Maybe a small blood acrifice?

Prizes go to Swizzles for imagination and Gaga for getting the right answer. Now if you'll both just bend over for your reward....

We are indeed the Barren Evil Selfish Hags of the kind the Daily Mail so likes to rant about. Clearly we were all so wedded to our careers that we put off ttc forever and ever rather than being good little girls and having a houseful in our twenties, so it's our own faults if it's not working out how we'd like now . And they wonder why we're so twisted.

Cass We also had the adoption discussion; deffo a possibility for us, but our LA won't allow interracial adoption and sees v few white babies. Also, general policy in London is to try & keep families together with lots of support, which means by the time adoption is the only solution, kid is very damaged. Have friends who are adopting at the moment and they've faced very sad choices...

if finances are the reason for not thinking about IVF, would you be prepared to donate some of your eggs? Think a few clinics will give you freebies in return for egg-sharing.

It's something we've thought about Humpy. I think right now adoption feels more us than all those assisted options. Beside which I was SPECTACULARLY bad at pregnancy and labour first time around

Polly I am yearning for an evening in Zummerzet making castle cakes and shizzle with you now. And my dog stinks too so I will even bath them together, am I in??

Can I bend over with the noobs? Need some attention violence.

Hafternoon Beshters,

ChoCho here, though it feels like it's been a while. I am beginning to haunt the Deli now, but not posting a great deal due to the demands of work ...the temerity!!

Laurie wondering what the next step is for you know - you were taking a breather for a month or two if I remember?

Headgirl Sorry to hear of injury, but v jealous of jizzy elderflower!

BESHcall: TTC since early 2006, nada until March 2009 when I won my first ickleangelbaybee, then ickleangelbaybee mark 2. In April this year, the forces of the universe aligned at a London BESHmeet, and the good lord diffed me up to act as inspiration to other BESHes. (If it helps, you may visualise me as Delacroix's Madame La Liberte, leading the BESHes into battle against The Barren, bare-breasted and trampling the menfolk into 14dpo submission)

Yo Cho nice to see ya. Would you like to spank some noobs?

How is goin'?

Hello everyone.
Name: Aries
Age: 35
TTC for 7 months serious but not not trying for a while before that. I have no idea what my levels of this, that and the other are and am starting to think maybe I should find out.
Married: eight years. We are only now starting to vaguely wonder amongst much angst on my part whether parenthood may be for us. And I still don't know. I feel too young and crap which at 35 is simply pitiful.
Current state: completely exhausted

What weird and arbitrary rules apply to adoption. When I was in juniors in the early 80s there was a black pair of sisters who had white adoptive parents. So if it was ok then, then why isn't it ok with some local authorities now?

Smooches and headbutts to Cass and a poke in the eye for everyone else. Good to have GinstersPasties back. Mwah

Forgot to say my current maternal affections are being lavished upon a stroppy, bitey and ungrateful cat. Perhaps she should be enough.

And arse kicks to MountieMaid. Who was it who said it's so much easier and cheaper to test a jizz pot why don't they just do it first to rule it out (or not)? Poor flower.

Wlright my luvva? Sorry you're so k-nackered. Did it go ok today? You can reply elsewhere if you'd rather. Here, share this here pot of Ben & Jerrys with me. You need the calories. I don't, but it makes me a nice person, which I do need . And you're not young and crap. 35 isn't young

Drom I started puking about 2 days after the BFP, was hospitalised by week 5 as couldn't even keep water down, was signed off my new job for a month till I could stand up with spewing and then for the rest of the 9 months couldn't even wear make-up as the smell of it made me spew - and that was the anti-sickness drucks. So I really was rather shambolic!!

Re the inter-racial thing - I can see the logic. I think that would complicate things for the child, having parents who blatantly weren't your biological ones. Kind of puts it out there all the time even when you'd rather it wasn't. But if it's a choice between that and care.... And mainly I just wish the bastard rules were CONSISTENT. If we'd taken our LA's views then we'd have abandoned the idea completely. Just one more phone call got us lucky but what if we hadn't made it? It's too random for what could be one of the biggest decision ever.

Sigh. Stand up without spewing. My keyboard is really fucked.

Oh for fuck's sake. Sorry.

Thank you. Would you like to punch me too? I am in a very self-punishing mood. So as (I assume, given above info) a fellow "marriage don't necessarily lead to offspring" person who got married around the same age, are you now getting a pitiful silence from friends / family? This is after a a barrage of questions re. plans for diffment in the previous years.

That was a boooootiful sentence, wasn't it? And a Booker goes to MountTheFarty!

What were you up to today, Arials? Sorry. Prying?

mountmemountme Punish me instead.

Know nothing of adoption, but agree re. infuriating randomness. In all my ignorance I always wonder why giving a child a warm home seems to be so difficult.

I've got a cousin who's a month older than me and black, adopted by white parents. (Actually I think technically he's mixed race but you'd never know). So while I see the logic of wanting to place kids with parents of the same racial background, it seems like some places take it to extreme (we need a family who reflect the Indian, Jamaican, Finnish and Romany heritage of this child or whatever), and like Cass says, if the only other option is care you do have to wonder. I've never asked my cousin how he found it (and he'd've been one of the few black kids around), but he doesn't seem to badly messed up.

Oh and Cass, you want to get pregnant again why? I mean obviously I know why, but that sounds like a nightmare.

you really are a glutton Casstard, aren't ya? Ok.