Circumcision- Does anyone know someone in the SE that does it privately???

[goldfinger13]

Hi All

It's not for a religious or medical reason- hence the request for private practitioner. I've read up on the Pro's and Cons and it's something that my DH feels very strongly about!!! Any recommendations??

aw.

my 6 week old son is being held by DH.

he has a cold and his cry is all hoarse and it's breaking my heart.

we just had to give him saline nasal drops prescribed by the GP.

i can't imagine doing something to him that so hurts for cosmetic reasons.

We did it for religious reasons.

that i can understand, malfoy.

it means a lot to some from a religious standpoint.

but cosmetic ones i don't see it.

malfoy - I understand people do it for religious reasons but I still find it pretty barbaric, sorry. Interestingly, many of my Jewish friends are not getting their sons circumcised. In fact I'm pretty sure none have had a bris. I think it's a sign of the times and no bad thing.

i went out with a Jewish man who was also a doctor.

to him, it was part of who he was a Jewish male and had great significance in that respect.

i can respect that.

well i just watched the video against my better judgement and i am outraged, the father doesnt know why the baby hasnt had an anaesthetic yet and the dr fobs him off

my son was circumcised using the plastibell mthod, where a band is placed on the penis and then after a few days the foreskin drops off, similar to the umbilical cord, so was not cut like the baby in the video but he had an anaesthetic injection and then a period of twenty minutes to allow it to take full affect before it was performed

i would not allow what happened in the video to occur and i would not be asking about anaesthetics during the procedure

In the case of my son the doc prescribed a cream which had a numbing effect on his penis. We arrived at his surgery with DS' penis covered in cream and wrapped in clingfilm.

Emla cream only numbs the surface skin, it's used for children who need to have blood taken etc. It wouldn't numb the glans so it would still be very painful when the foreskin was seperated from the glans.

The arguement that it is integral in certain religions/cultures doesn't wash with me. Female circumcision is integral in some cultures too, but that is banned in the UK. Ritual genital mutilation is archaic and something that we should be rejecting if we really are as civilised as we say we are.

Little ducks there is still rather a lot of cutting with the plastibell method.

This is a popular myth that there's no cutting involved but there is.

The foreskin has to be separated from the glans, perhaps the most painful part,a slit is made in the foreskin and the 'excess' foreskin is trimmed from around the plastibell.

Not strictly true. It depends on the type of female circumcision. There's more than the type where all sexual organs are removed, that's the one everyone thinks of immediately. I believe it's called infibulation.

Doesn't mean I'm not against the other types though.

aaaaghI hate this part of the debate..where peole try and make out that circumcision and female mutilation are the same thing. They are not. Female mutilation is misogynistic, dangerous and opressive.

While I understand that 'cosmetic' may not be a word people want to use to describe circumscision, and feel it is barbaric - there's still no excuse to call these 2 procedures the same thing!! Women are literally mutilated and then sewn up again to prevent them from straying. They have serious health issues when giving birth and can never enjoy sex. This is not the same as circumscision!

See above Lil. There are 4 types that I know of, one removes only the clitoral hood so that at least can be compared to male circumcision.

Falcon, but what is the reasoning behind removing the 'hood'? With male circumision the original biblical reason was for hygene. Even if people don't belive that now, what possible reason could ever have been given for female circumcision??

It's usually also for hygiene purposes.

I did in case my baby was a boy (ex-dp is Jewish and wanted it done as he had been and I was and still opposed to the idea) - it was a long time ago but I found out how they do it. Either vacuum or scapel. I sent him the links I found. Apparently, the % of woman married to Jewish men have a lower incidences of cervical cancer but that is probably subject to other variables as well - sexual history of both partners, family pre-disposition to cancers etc.

Incidentally I noticed with him that the tip of his penis was dryer skin wheras a non-snipped man it's a lot moister.

In my opinion unless there is medical grounds for circumision or pressing relious ideals, leave it well alone. It wouldn't be there without a reason.

I find this completely baffling. The human body is designed to work well, so presumably the foreskin ha a purpose. Why cut it off? How hard is it to keep clean - it's not hard to wash your armpits, or between your toes - whay is a penis so different?

When we were advised to have my DS circumcised for medical reasons, we did a bit of reading on the subject. Apparently male circumcision was heavily promoted in the USA in the last century by Dr Kellog, who financed his campagin with the loot he made from his cornflakes. He had a few issues with sex and encouraged it to prevent the 'evil' of masturbation. Other than America, where the practice is declining, it is more popular in hot countries, where it is believed it is more hygenic. I understand that it is not actually a religious obligation for jewish men but a social tradition that has become entwined with faith. Not sure whether it is the same for those of the muslim religion.

I have read all the posts on here, I didn't open any links or watch any videos because I know it would upset me seeing a child being put through uneccassary and horrific levels of pain.

I have to say I know nothing about circumcision and TBH I don't see how there is any validation of it unless it's medical reasons. I have a 2.5YO DS and the thought of putting him through such trauma breaks my heart.

I may be soft and I may come across as disrespectful towards other people's religious beliefs, I don't mean to be but frankly this is one thing I cannot get my head around. Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be any reason for it other than hygiene even in religious grounds. That to me is a pretty piss poor excuse to mutilate your child someday hopefully maybe people can see past the whole 'hygiene' issue and realise that perhaps their child's happiness and well being are far more important, in today's 'civilised' world I would have thought that most people have clicked onto this fact but apparently not.

Male and female circumsicion are the same, just on a sliding scale of how bad, if you follow me. Both inhibit or deaden sexual responsiveness, but are incredibley painful, and traditionally carried out without any pain relief, and both are totally unneccessary and barbaric.

Hygiene is a crap excuse, it's not hard to keep an intact penis clean, you just wash it. The human body is filled with crevices and folds of skin that can get sweaty and smelly, should we be carving ourselves up left right and centre so we don't have to shower thoroughly??

Also agree with GreenMonkies both are the same mutilation is mutilation regardless of gender or excuse reasons.

I hope the OP can put a stop to this but then again I think they will have problems if they approach a doctor asking them to cut bits off their child because they can't be arsed cleaning him properly...

Hi all. I am a serial lurker. I know it's late in the debate and the original poster has left the thread but I felt I had to post as this is something I feel very strongly about.

goldfinger13 I really hope you are still reading the replies to this thread.

My second son was born with Hypospadias and Bilateral undecended Testicles he also had chordy ,a deformed forskin that was tethered underneath causing his penis to bend and fanned out at the top. At 15 months he had both testicles brought down, his urethra moved and a circumcision. This was done under general and epidural by a Conultant Padiatric Uological Surgeon. Obviously the actual operation was pain-free but without a shadow of a doubt the circumcision was terrbly painful whilst healing (which took far longer than anything else) He cried in agony every time he peed and I cried with him. My son is now 8 and it makes me feel sad to think he may never have full sensation when he is sexually active. He is aware how different he looks to the other boys and other children do notice (although I must admit he is quite happy stripping off at every opportunity!) My eldest son's penis remains intact as would any future sons unless 100% medically necessary. I am sure you adore your son. So I urge you to please rethink. Please at the very least talk to a urological surgeon who can help you make a really informed decision.

Let the owner of the penis make the decision. Your DH can always decide to have a circumcision (don't understand his reasons not to as other pp have said), if that is what he desires, but once the foreskin is gone it can't be replaced.

My DS2 has had 3 GA, all by the time he was 16 months old, and he had an op for undescended testicles. I could not imagine putting a child (let alone a baby) through such immesurable pain unless it was medically necessary.

Do your research, don't be swayed by your DH, and if it's so so important to your DH let him be circumcised first.

(I know you're gone now OP, but I do feel strongly about this one!)