Circumcision- Does anyone know someone in the SE that does it privately???

[goldfinger13]

Hi All

It's not for a religious or medical reason- hence the request for private practitioner. I've read up on the Pro's and Cons and it's something that my DH feels very strongly about!!! Any recommendations??

Yikes! Can't watch such a video.

I can see why someone would want to do it for religious reasons, but not for cosmetic ones.

I only watched it to see what happens, NQC - it wasn't nice.
I am pleased that people are starting to refuse to do it cosmetically if that is the case.

Actually I disagree moston - I don't think that there's been that much in the way of shouting and swearing.

And thanks for the compliment regarding overemotionality. Personally I am happy to be viewed as overemotional when it comes to putting a baby through a medically and religiously unnecessary circumcision. Cheers!

I didn't watch any of the videos either - but I do think that someone who is considering a circumcision for non-medical/religious reasons should take a look to see what is involved.

What were you expecting to have happen? There will be blood and an upset baby. No thank you. (I did tell my sister, when her DH was saying any son of theirs would be circumsised, that the DH needed to watch a video of it first. Thankfully, they've only had girls, so this hasn't come up.)

I don't know whether people are refusing to do it cosmetically, or just not bothering. Either way, though ...

i second Athene's recommendation, we used clinic in luton who did the plastibell method, the doc was muslim but did not perform prayers etc. he had muslim patients and other older boys who were having it done (presumerably) for medical reasons

God I just watched the google video...

I had to give up watching because it was making me sweat in a cold way... that poor poor little boy

NQC I was naive and didn't know that it would necessarily mean the baby was upset. Please don't have a pop at me for trying to educate myself...it's a bit like those animal cruelty ones that get linked to every so often and then everyone signs the petition.

People don't always know how bad these things are.

I had to turn it off too - that baby was just sooo distressed - it looked bloody horrific too.

I watched because I was naive too... only I didn't realise I was until I watched it IYSWIM. Only watched a bit though.

I imagined much, much less violence I suppose. I imagined a sort of straightforward clamping and cutting, like an umbilical cord I guess.

I couldn't have been more wrong.

It never fails to amaze me what some people will do in the name of their 'beliefs'.

The OP and her DH are blinkered. They refuse to justify themselves, because they feel thay they don't have to. To them the 'personal belief' arguement is enough. Circumcision is traditional, has centuries of history behind it, it's legal, it's widely accepted globally, therefore any opposition is basically overemotional nonsense.

I don't consider myself a judgmental person. I really don't generally have views on other peoples parenting skills. And I don't doubt that they are loving parents and probably kind and caring people.

But my belief is that this purposeless painful surgery to a baby is simply wrong. It is something the child should make his own decision about when old enough.

It looks like nothing is likely to make them reconsider their decision. However, I think that people are quite within their rights on this thread to express their disagreement with that decision.

Oh, I didn't mean to be having a pop at people, I just meant I didn't understand why, if you were likely to be upset by seeing a surgical procedure on a child (because even a necessary surgical procedure on an awake baby would be disturbing to see), you would watch such a video.

see what you mean.

My brother was circumcised as a toddler for medical reasons. He hated it as a teenager (prob still does for all I know), hated being different, etc.

My mum says the pain he was in afterwards was horrendous. Peeling the blood crusted bandages off really freaked her out.

Can't understand why your DH doesn't get himself done. What will you tell your DS when he's old enough when he says "I didn't want to be circumcised, I wish I wasn't"?

God I can't imagine

The foreskin is still part of the willy at that age. it isn't like a separate little flap, it's actually integral. That's partly why it is so horrific. On a grown man's willy it is much more separate and less attached iyswim. It is just a bit of loose skin - albeit with plenty of nerve endings and such. On a baby it's not like that.

I feel I should say though that where a circumcision is medically required it can have positive outcomes - my nephew was circumcised as part of hypospadias repair aged 5 and my cousin aged 8 as a result of some other condition.

Both are fine about it and recovered pretty quickly. I distinctly remember my cousin showing me his a couple of weeks after it was done!

I wouldn't want to associate the parents of children who medically need to be circumcised with this case if you see what I mean. Not all circumcision is bad.

that's true Pooka. Although I think many of us would consider it a last resort. i've been offered it for ds due to his having a few episodes of it being sore, it turned out when we stopped using bubble bath it was fine. Our GP said this is bizarrely often the case.

Hi, my sons have both have had it done privatly and very pain free BUT!!! we are muslim and we feel its a lot more hygeniec for males to be cirumsised (as do Jewish have the same belief) that is only OUR opinion, and if you dont have a good reason for it being performed then i would leave well alone, DONT DO EVERYTHING YA MAN SAYS you have your own mind too, think whats best for your child -not your HUSBANDS!

I once spent a very sleepless night in hosital with my ds1 because the baby in the next bed had been circumcised that day. He screamed out with pain everytime he passed urine and when he wasn't screaming he was sobbing. His mum had had to leave him overnight because she had other dcs at home and couldn't stay wih her son. He was 18 months, had been given a ga and it was done for medical reasons. Why anyone would want to put their child through that for no good reason (or at least not one they seem able to explain) baffles me. My ds had a muscle biopsy taken without the benefit of anaesthetic. It was a horrific experience which left ds, me, dh and the nurse doing it in tears. I would imagine a circumcision would be at least as painful if not more and you would have to be pretty hard hearted to want to do that to your own baby unless the benefits outweighed the trauma and risks. As neither the op or her dh has felt able to justify their reasons we will never know.

My son had it done for medical reasons. It was awful.Felt like a mutilation. I wouldn't do it to my daughters so why is it any different for boys.

poor little souls

Like NQC, it is common where I come from.
My sister and I had ds's at about the same time, and it really saddened me that she got her ds "done"

My other sister didn't get her ds's done, but then she was obsessive about them cleaning themselves, and peeling back the foreskin [faint] in order to clean it, and eventually they DID have problems, and needed to be circumsised.

My ex was circumsised, and his penis was no where near as sensitive as dh's. Could be down to individuals though.

My DS had his done at 8 days. He cried more when he had his first set of jabs than he did for his circumcision. He was fast asleep within half an hour.

It healed in less than a week.

I would do it again if I had another DS.

I couldn't watch all the video... there were 5 miniutes of it FFS!
That poor baby, I managed about 20seconds.

I have 4 sons and over my dead body would any of them go through that if it was a medical reason (we aren't religious so that would come into it for us)

I just don't understand WHY any parent would choose to do that to their newborn...

I haven't watched the video so I don't know how it compares to my experiences.

I have been to 4 circumcisions including my sons. They are by no means pleasant but certainly not unbearable.