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So relieved I didn’t have children

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Settings11111111 · 28/11/2025 22:26

Do any other child free by choice women experience this sweeping relief from time to time? I’ve just got back from a holiday with several family children who are beautifully behaved and great company but whose parents were trapped in never ending arguments about who’d do what and who could have time to relax whilst the other minded the kids. It led to several tense atmospheres.

I know not all parents argue but I’ve got home with such an overriding sense of relief that I made the decision not to have kids.

OP posts:
Crushed23 · 29/11/2025 18:45

Onleemoi · 29/11/2025 14:21

I wonder if some of these mums were tedious bores before kids or just after.

Okay. I laughed.

😂

Twatalert · 29/11/2025 18:58

FinallyHere · 29/11/2025 16:49

If you have a foolproof way to ensure that you drop dead the very day you give up work, then you will indeed not be benefiting from the children other people have birthed and raised. Otherwise, you will reap the benefit of others working to pay your state pension and keep the lights on in the organisations in which your private pension is invested.

and continue to provide banking and other facilities for the duration of your retirement.

if you do have such a method, as a Childress person myself, I’d be very interested in finding out about it.

What does it matter. I'll probably be a drag on the system for the first time when I'm old. I can't wait.

AllPlayedOut · 29/11/2025 19:13

LadyBlakeneysHanky · 29/11/2025 13:35

I have children (am I allowed on this thread?) one of whom has a significant medical condition. Obviously DC is the one suffering as a result and I should not be making it ‘all about me’- but maybe on this thread at least I can freely say that I cannot even begin to explain the devastating effect this has had on my life. The constant fear. Every day, the fear. Relentless. I get up with it and go to bed with it. I live with the knowledge that things may get much, much worse.

If I knew 20 years ago what I know now - the stress & fear that motherhood would bring to my life - I would make different choices.

Discussions about the joys of parenthood always seem to assume the children are healthy. This assumption - for anyone considering parenthood- is a dangerous one. Not all children make it; not all are well; embarking on parenthood means accepting this risk, but few people understand this until too late.

I’m so sorry that you and your children are going through so much. Please don’t feel guilty about talking about how it impacts you too. You also matter and additional needs and medical conditions have a very real impact on everyone in the family. Being a parent is tough enough without having to be a carer too. You and your feelings and what you are going through also matter.Flowers

CheeseIsMyIdol · 29/11/2025 20:26

BruFord · 29/11/2025 15:25

@Settings11111111 I’m always happy when I read post like yours as they confirm that you made the right choice for you.

We’re very lucky to live in an era with reliable contraception so that women absolutely can choose whether to have children or not, it must’ve been awful when that wasn’t the case.

Same here. I spent a lovely day today working on a furniture painting project, then a leisurely shower, hair & makeup, decent outfit, and made the rounds of garden centre, artisan market, some favorite craft boutiques, etc. Spent what I pleased on myself and others.

Came home to a peaceful clean house, then my SO arrived with some good steaks which he prepared while I lounged with wine by the fire. Over dinner we discussed various current events, plans for 2026 and the possibility of a city break in December. Now he’s doing the minimal cleanup while I find us a film to watch.

I can’t imagine being happy in a kid-centric household.

BruFord · 29/11/2025 21:21

Sounds like a great day @CheeseIsMyIdol!

TheRoseDeer · 30/11/2025 00:27

Those that are mums were childfree at some stage prior. I think these are the people best placed to comment on which decision is more of a relief. Mums have a full circle view versus a half view of the childfree.

SnowFrogJelly · 30/11/2025 01:31

northern2025 · 29/11/2025 17:41

Why not ?

Of course you can’t!

or do you just want threads where everyone agrees with you

CheeseIsMyIdol · 30/11/2025 01:34

TheRoseDeer · 30/11/2025 00:27

Those that are mums were childfree at some stage prior. I think these are the people best placed to comment on which decision is more of a relief. Mums have a full circle view versus a half view of the childfree.

Wow. Taking the cake for utter batshittery.

northern2025 · 30/11/2025 01:52

TheRoseDeer · 30/11/2025 00:27

Those that are mums were childfree at some stage prior. I think these are the people best placed to comment on which decision is more of a relief. Mums have a full circle view versus a half view of the childfree.

What a particularly thick comment.
Are you always quite so dense?

northern2025 · 30/11/2025 01:53

SnowFrogJelly · 30/11/2025 01:31

Of course you can’t!

or do you just want threads where everyone agrees with you

no but just as an aside your comments do stand out as particularly unpleasant
I wouldn’t really value your opinion as you seen a rather ghastly individual to be honest

Beekman · 30/11/2025 02:08

TheRoseDeer · 30/11/2025 00:27

Those that are mums were childfree at some stage prior. I think these are the people best placed to comment on which decision is more of a relief. Mums have a full circle view versus a half view of the childfree.

A full circle view of what? What it’s like to be a weirdo?

NauticalMiles · 30/11/2025 02:22

BlakeCarrington · 29/11/2025 10:01

I feel the same as you OP. I’m quite surprised reading this thread though - some
posters really seem to have a chip on their shoulder about those of us who are child free and happy to be so. Why is that?

Agree... I have kids so am reading the thread purely out of interest. Funnily enough I can do so while respecting all your reasons for not maing the same life choices as me. This thread is not a personal attack on parents!

Slothing · 30/11/2025 02:30

It’s good that you are happy with your decision OP. I think some people have kids who weren’t cut out for parenting, so when people like you recognise they’re not suited to it and don’t go on to have them, that’s a good outcome. We both really wanted children so we would have had huge sadness and regret not having them

Amongst my group of 6 friends, 2 don’t have children, one is really happy with her decision, the other regrets it now which is hard for her, and hard for us as her friends to see her going through that.

I have two children and I think what has been a big part for me of making it a lovely experience, is having a good partner. He has always done his fair share with our children so we have never argued about who does what. We’ve always made sure we both had downtime and sleep etc.

Goldenbear · 30/11/2025 02:33

ClawsandEffect · 29/11/2025 01:05

I was really enjoying this thread (despite having an adult child myself) until the wingers about paying extra tax / not getting benefits appeared.

Own your choice. You're still winning from your quality of life alone.

Depends how you interpret "winning".

Lottapianos · 30/11/2025 08:24

TheRoseDeer · 30/11/2025 00:27

Those that are mums were childfree at some stage prior. I think these are the people best placed to comment on which decision is more of a relief. Mums have a full circle view versus a half view of the childfree.

That's complete rubbish. Not being a parent, then becoming a parent, is completely different to knowing that you will never be a parent, either by choice or circumstances. Being child free is not the same as not being a parent YET

This is just another version of 'mums know everything, CF people know nothing'

whiteroseredrose · 30/11/2025 08:50

There are usually comments about being totally free to do what you want when you want. But is that really true?

In your 20s and 30s maybe.

My DC are now adults and living 4 hours away, so theoretically DH and I can now do what we want when we want.

But for a couple of years we’ve taken care of elderly PIL. We managed their move to nearer us, took them to appointments and hospital. DH managed their finances, and then their estates when they died this year. I spend my Fridays off talking my parents to assorted medical appointments and yesterday cancelled plans so that I could go and see my brother who was having a mental health crisis.

Unless we are totally alone, most of us are members of a family so look after each other. There are always commitments even if not to DC. Dealing with a stroppy elderly parent or grandparent is not that different to a grumpy toddler.

Nobody really escapes.

Higglea · 30/11/2025 09:12

Thread derailed a bit, but back to original topic, I get this relief (actually a feeling of joy) several times a month. Very pleased I knew myself well enough not to have my own kids. Not least as I’ve ended up playing a huge role in the lives of some kids in kinship care. I’ve seen the reality of what can happen in a minority of cases where people had kids when they were not cut out for it (like me). Very grateful and in awe of those who do have kids (and raise them) so I don’t have to!

Wishihadanalgorithm · 30/11/2025 09:25

Being childfree was a very definite choice for me and I enjoyed having holidays, sleep, nights out with friends and money in my bank account.

Then, at almost 40, my ovaries wanted a last chance and I fell pregnant.

I’m very happy to be a mum and haven’t found it too hard to be a parent. Now DC is older we can do a lot of things that just weren’t possible when they were younger.- such as holidays, days out, theatre trips etc. However, raising DC is expensive - we bought a bigger house, pay for private ed, don’t have the new cars like we used to have, pay a fortune in extra curricular classes, clothes, school trips, etc.

Obviously, this is our choice and we could have sent them to the local school, not pay the extra curricular classes, stayed in the tiny house, etc but we figured DC is a one and only and we were going to do the very best for them we could.

My life pre -DC was lovely. Post DC it is also lovely. It is just different. However, I appreciate we have resources, DC has no SEN and is “very easy.” DP and I are both on board with parenting in a similar style and each pulls their own weight. If it wasn’t so fair and if DC was difficult then my life may not feel so lovely.

Twatalert · 30/11/2025 09:44

TheRoseDeer · 30/11/2025 00:27

Those that are mums were childfree at some stage prior. I think these are the people best placed to comment on which decision is more of a relief. Mums have a full circle view versus a half view of the childfree.

Mums weren't childfree in their 40 and beyond. Therefore that perspective is missing.

Twatalert · 30/11/2025 09:48

whiteroseredrose · 30/11/2025 08:50

There are usually comments about being totally free to do what you want when you want. But is that really true?

In your 20s and 30s maybe.

My DC are now adults and living 4 hours away, so theoretically DH and I can now do what we want when we want.

But for a couple of years we’ve taken care of elderly PIL. We managed their move to nearer us, took them to appointments and hospital. DH managed their finances, and then their estates when they died this year. I spend my Fridays off talking my parents to assorted medical appointments and yesterday cancelled plans so that I could go and see my brother who was having a mental health crisis.

Unless we are totally alone, most of us are members of a family so look after each other. There are always commitments even if not to DC. Dealing with a stroppy elderly parent or grandparent is not that different to a grumpy toddler.

Nobody really escapes.

I escaped. Your point is precisely the point some childfree people make: the caring role never stops. For some it will only start once the parents are elderly. For me it won't though.

Bellyblueboy · 30/11/2025 10:24

TheRoseDeer · 30/11/2025 00:27

Those that are mums were childfree at some stage prior. I think these are the people best placed to comment on which decision is more of a relief. Mums have a full circle view versus a half view of the childfree.

So - someone who had a child at 24 is best placed to comment on the complex emotions and choice of being childfree because she was childfree in her late teens and early twenties🤣😂.

i don’t think you really though that comment through.

CheeseIsMyIdol · 30/11/2025 10:27

What are my childfree friends up to on this lovely weekend day?

I ‘m doing more furniture painting, then a pampering shower. We’ll begin opening up the boxes of baubles and other Christmas stuff later with an old movie as background ; am thinking “Miracle on 34th Street.” Cozy fire and something nice for dinner.

Lottapianos · 30/11/2025 10:32

'What are my childfree friends up to on this lovely weekend day?'

Been to the gym, after a lovely 8 hour sleep 👍 beautiful sunshine in London today so going for a nice cold walk and then somewhere for an early dinner with DP

Twatalert · 30/11/2025 11:01

I slept until 9am, then played with the cats and am now sitting down with a coffee. Will make a delicious lunch later and then go for a walk in the sunshine.

northern2025 · 30/11/2025 11:13

whiteroseredrose · 30/11/2025 08:50

There are usually comments about being totally free to do what you want when you want. But is that really true?

In your 20s and 30s maybe.

My DC are now adults and living 4 hours away, so theoretically DH and I can now do what we want when we want.

But for a couple of years we’ve taken care of elderly PIL. We managed their move to nearer us, took them to appointments and hospital. DH managed their finances, and then their estates when they died this year. I spend my Fridays off talking my parents to assorted medical appointments and yesterday cancelled plans so that I could go and see my brother who was having a mental health crisis.

Unless we are totally alone, most of us are members of a family so look after each other. There are always commitments even if not to DC. Dealing with a stroppy elderly parent or grandparent is not that different to a grumpy toddler.

Nobody really escapes.

I don’t agree at all with this, not everyone is lucky enough to have parents reaching old age.

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