As a mother...

[Ducksinthebath]

"As a mother..." seems to be how about how just about every opinion expressed to me about the Middle East situation seems to start at the moment.

Same for XL Bully issues, the recent party conferences and every blooming thought that comes out someone's head about the environment.

I feel like I'm in an echo chamber with Andrea Leadsom and it's irritating.

Mums can talk about their own lives from their own perspectives until the cows come home. Just not on the board for PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE CHILDREN.

It's really not personal, it's definitely not a dig at strangers, it's people talking about their own lives. If someone was to say "as a cat owner, the speed limit on this road is far too high" and someone replied "oh WOW so you don't mind me, a human, getting run over?" or "Oh so you think I, a non-cat owner, want cats to get run over?" It's literally just someone talking about their own life from their own perspective.

But so so so so so so often, so so so so so often, when people talk about "as a mother" they are claiming - overtly & explicitly - superior understanding. BECAUSE they have children.

My private response (I don't say this out loud) is that if it took reproducing to give you human empathy, then you weren't much of a person before reproducing.

Good grief. Isn’t it amazing, @MrsDanversGlidesAgain , that we need a woman speaking as a mother to tell us what’s good for us, even on this very thread? It must be hard to go through life with so little self awareness

Some people, and this poster is clearly one, don't regard people without children as fully functioning adults; and have this compelling urgent need to tell us what's good for us to hear as if we're ten years old.

We are so popular, we have people (some parents) changing names just so they could post here. Yay

(eubstitute I for We in gif)

It's relentless - why some posters can't read others are welcome to post but please be respectful is beyond me. Perhaps it's in invisible ink or something.

'I really don't get why you're so mad at the idea of mums talking about their own lives from their own perspective. It's really got nothing to do with you'

And this board, for people who don't have children, has got nothing to do with YOU. You're being unbelievably tedious and proving our point that some parents, despite their endless claims to the contrary, are absolutely devoid of empathy

The absolute irony of this comment being on a thread on the board for MNetters without children.

LIke I said, I couldn't care less what they talk about - it is, after all, what this site was set up for. Just not on this board, thanks.

I really don't get why you're so mad at the idea of the childfree talking about their own lives from their own perspective. It's really got nothing to do with you. If you want to internalise it then it's really nobody else's fault you get upset.

Ooh love a little "childfree women are so emotional/angry/aggressive/mad" throw in there whenever there someone doesn't agree with what is said

Ooh love a little "childfree women are so emotional/angry/aggressive/mad" throw in there whenever there someone doesn't agree with what is said

The usual crap to shut women up and imply they're unreasonable. And coming from another woman, at that. 😦

Ooh love a little "childfree women are so emotional/angry/aggressive/mad" throw in there whenever there someone doesn't agree with what is said

Well, it's just to show that we're still unfeeling immature girlies because we haven't had to deal with toddler tantrums. If we had, THEN we'd know how not to get upset.

Yes, the sisterhood only extends to those whose loins are fruitful, clearly.

@FarEast it doesn't mean empathy though... if you don't care about other people before you have kids then you probably don't care about other people after either. It's more about saying that you have a stake in the issue (which is not even to say that others don't - it's just expressing the way in which you have a stake). It's like saying as a resident, as a dog-owner, as a friend of X, as a teacher... those people aren't saying I Am Superior Because I Have A Dog, they're just starting by stating their perspective.

Under his eye

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It's even worse. Sisterhood is a tool to shoot down any non conforming women. As in non conforming to the particular sisters so with different sisters you get hit for different things.
Sisterhood is a weapon

...is this all a reaction to my fairly mundane post about how dropping "as a..." in conversation works? Wow. 😂

Please stop digging. If you’ve had “As A Mother…” said at you, like the women without children on this thread have, you would realise that the innocent spin you are trying to place on those women’s words is far from the truth. Why do you doubt the ability of women without children to correctly infer the intention of those people speaking to them, and then presume to speak for all mothers yourself, if not to make yourself superior in the discussion?

Do nuns get all this chucked at them, I wonder?

Oh come on. You revived a thread which died a few weeks ago, to post something you knew would be unwelcome. Faux innocence isn’t attractive or appealing. Laughy face.

I’m going to find the Site Stuff thread & post that I think this board needs to come off Active. Because this is ridiculous.

I am sure they do. They are in some way different and that's always wrong.

I am now interested and off to google

Do nuns get all this chucked at them, I wonder?

What? 'as a mother' shite or 'you really need to hear this' shite or 'if you want to internalise it and get upset that's your issue' shite?

I deal with nuns quite frequently in the course of my work and will endeavour to ask when I next encounter some.