How do i get a c-section?

[singleteenagemum]

I know this probably sounds really stupid, but i really want a caesarean, how do i go about getting an elective one?
What's the process for it all? am i just plain stupid wanting one?
HELP!!

[aloha]

And as it happened I wasn't terrified of birth. I just found the whole idea of it appalling.

[SoupDragon]

The idea of mumsnet is that by pooling knowledge and experience, parents make the job of parenting easier. Please bear in mind that issues to do with raising children can be very sensitive and that everyone has the right to make their own choices when it comes to bringing up their kids. This is a discussion forum and we ask you to respect other people's right to their opinions, even if you disagree with them. Our policy is to keep intervention to a minimum and let the conversation flow. Having said that we will remove postings that are obscene, racist, or contain personal attacks.

[aloha]

Jesus, if someone posted that they wanted a waterbirth, and someone else posted that they didn't think anyone should be allowed one on the NHS or privately because they personally had a bad experience you wouldn't be able to move for posts saying what a disgraceful thing to say, but it's OK to say so re caesarians, I see.

[aloha]

Soupdragon, I only used exactly the same words as had been used about me. Let's have some fairness here.

[SoupDragon]

What makes you think it was directed personally at you, Aloha?

[SoupDragon]

Personally I think this thread should be allowed to die now.

It's got too heated and is not helping the OP at all. It's not a reasoned debate. In fact, it's simply turned into a slanging match whichisn't very helpful.

[aloha]

It was absolutely obvious! And all that stuff about needing counselling etc. She had her claws in alright.

[SoupDragon]

Well, you're wrong as it happens, it was a reminder to everyone.

so nyanyanya phthrrup!

[goldenoldie]

Oh boy..............here we go again.

Much better than getting any work done tho! This thread is far too interesting.

[aloha]

sorry - I thought you were asking why I thought her comments were directed at me, not the bloomin MN philosophy. I wasn't bothered by that!

[homemama]

I wasn't feeling sorry for myself Aloha, I was showing genuine concern for STM.
I haven't personally insulted anyone, I just felt the argument had moved away from her original posting.
As she seems to have had the sense to desert the thread now I suggest we all do the same.

[aloha]

I wasn't referring to you Homemama. I don't agree with you re sections and that's fine. You weren't the one hurling insults around.

[vickiyumyum]

Aloha- i think that you will find you started the personal comments and i did not make personal comments directly back to you until you personally criticised me, i am all for the women that i care for having choice in their birth options and have been around to support women who were so traumatised by their previous experiences that they requested a section the next time around.
my proffessional opinion and my personal opinion are allowed to differ, there is no law against that.
you seem so inssitant on the fact that there is a vendetta out against you, but yet you do not see that you are causing the argument. Stop attacking me and then i will let this go, but while you continue to sully my name i will not let it drop. different people have different opinions and again i will say i offered stm advice on where to go to gather information to provide herself with an informed decision and to do whatever she felt best for herself, you started off by saying exactly that and then went on a crusade against anyone who disagreed with you.
i will not allow you to foul my name, i have just asked you to question why it is you have got so heated about this and you still haven't answeredin a calm and reasonable manner you just continue to personnally attack me!
i think the fact that other people have seen your comments from my point of view stands up for itself.
once again may i remind you do not attack my knowledge of my job or my ability to carry out my career. you do not know me, i have never worked with you, and am never likely to, but i have many cards, letters and presents from women thanking me for my support and encouragement, regardless of how they have delivered their baby. to insult someone on a personal level is one thing but to attack someone through their career is different matter entirley. perhaps if you wern't so full of anger you would be able to see things more clearly!

[oliveoil]

The End.

[Fio2]

isnt it weird how wound up mumsnet makes us then we view another persons gripe and cant see what is going on and why everyone is so upset

anyhow i am going now

[goldenoldie]

Shame, I was enjoying that!

[starrynight]

Ok, Goldenoldie - just for you I didn't want to get involved in this but considering that study involving 85 London Obstetricians has been quoted on here a few times I thought people would be interested to read about a study involving 567 female obstetricians in Holland. Have a look at this bmj editorial . I also have another study involving Scottish obstetricians if you don't like looking at 'foreign' stats

[starrynight]

p.s. Scroll down to 'unnecessary caesareans should be avoided' for the info.

[starrynight]

Actually, its not an editorial but a letter from an obs in Holland (saw the word 'editor' and got confused [roll eyes])

[starrynight]

In fact, a lot of that page is of interest to this debate. (both sides of it)

[aloha]

Oh come on VYY - you had a patronising and personal go at me in almost every single one of your posts. Look at them!
"perhaps you should seek counselling as you are obviously a very angry woman"
"you were almost trying to force stm into having a section"
"narrow minded"
"bee in a bonnet"
"i still don't understand you vitirol" (vitriol?)
"you obviously do not know your limitations"

And you have the nerve to call me narrow minded!
Here let's compare your opinions with mine, as demonstrated on this thread.
YOU: "i don't beleive that you should be allowed to choose to have section that is my opinion regardless of whether you pay for it or not!"
And this:"you do not have a right to have a section you have aright to have a birth within a hospital, that does not mean having major surgery, because you choose to.
i certainly do not agree that the rich should have the right to choose, just because they can pay for it."
All of this on a thread entitled "How do I get a c-section"!
Now let's look at my 'narrow minded' posts that are 'full of vitriol":

"Singleteenmum, you may have an OK birth, you may not. I'm not saying you 'should' have any particular kind of birth. Look into your options. But in the end it has to be your business. I am in favour of choice - for EVERYONE - not just women who want vaginal birth. |
And
"Not everyone has such a good experience as I did though. And if you plan on having six kids then you are probably better off having a - horror! - vaginal birth. "
And
"I am in favour of choice - for EVERYONE - not just women who want vaginal birth."
And
"I'm all for waterbirths, homebirths, birth centre births and even standing on your head births for those who want them. And all the attendant costs to the NHS that they may entail are absolutely fine by me. "
So much for 'forcing STM into having a section" - what rubbish.
One of us is in favour of maternal choice, the other isn't . What worries me is that the person who is opposed to it is working in maternity services.

[aloha]

It would almost be amusing that you think there is something wrong about standing up for women's options if you weren't a midwife.

STM - go for what you want. As I posted to you before, look into your options, but if you really do want a c-section, be prepared for a fight.

[vickiyumyum]

Here we go again i wasn't making any accusations about what you had said to stm, just what you had said to me personally. so stop twisting things and just leave it now it is getting very boring!
as i sadi i am an advocate for supporting women in their choice on where and how to give birth, however i disagree with the choice to have asection because you 'want' one, if there is a reason and yes i class extreme fear as one valid reason then i am all for supporting that women in her choice. what i am against is its my choice, i paid my taxes, i should be allowed to do whatever i want argument, because that just doesn't cut it, however as already said countless times if you have agenuine reason for whatever type of delivery and you are well informed of the pros and cons, then fair enough.
i will say it again, i have no problem with what you have said to stm, just how you have taken and twisted everything i have said.