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How do i get a c-section?

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singleteenagemum · 27/06/2005 09:08

I know this probably sounds really stupid, but i really want a caesarean, how do i go about getting an elective one?
What's the process for it all? am i just plain stupid wanting one?
HELP!!

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vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 16:43

i have not personally insulted you, i have answered your question, it is my opinion ant that is that. you still keep avoiding my question. what is it to you?
stm - i do hope that as you have indicated you will take from this the advice that you wnat/need and will research further into your options. i hope that your midwife is able to provide you with the help/info that you need. if not ask her to refer you to someone who can, managers/consultants etc as well as voluntary organistaions.
and i wish you well in your birth and hope that you and your baby have a safe and happy life!

aloha · 27/06/2005 16:44

It is your opinion, yes, but WHY is it your opinion?

vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 16:45

exactly stm asked for advice on where to go for help and informationa dn most people provided her with that i hope! i'm sure that stm did not want this to turn into the slanging match that it has become!

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aloha · 27/06/2005 16:46

Why does it matter to me that STM gets the birth she wants? Because I think all women should be given freedom of choice. I think it is very important principle. And STM actually came on here to ASK how to get an elective section, so I gave her some advice that was ASKED for.

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aloha · 27/06/2005 16:47

So now I would honestly love to know why you think maternal choice sections should be banned.

vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 16:47

because i have had 2 section 1 emergency which ended up with me in hospital for 7 days went home to get an infection in my scar and ended up back in hospital.
the other elective for breech for a baby that turned out not be breech, i then also ended up with another infection and my baby was ill too!
that is why it is my opinion that people often research the pros and cons of a subject, but can (and i'm not saying always/or all are) be blase about the cons and think that it won't happen to them.

batters · 27/06/2005 16:49

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aloha · 27/06/2005 16:49

OK you had a bad experience. But I had an excellent one. Some people have far worse outcomes from vaginal birth. I think MN has seen the very worst that can happen recently. I hardly think that is an argument for banning vaginal birth.

Would you also ban all cosmetic surgery? Or indeed any surgery that isn't absolutely life and death?

vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 16:50

oh and i had pnd with ds1 and then and and pnd with ds2 which through counselling has made me come to terms with the fact that certain choices were taken away from me, amongst many other things that i will not discuss with you!

vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 16:52

so does any one want to discuss the risks to the baby?

goldenoldie · 27/06/2005 16:52

Dino - don't think anyone here is trying to frighten STM into having a c-section - do you?

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vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 16:54

No i have based my opinion on my experience! what i offered stm was some suggestions on where to go for advice/inforamtion on getting the answers to her questions i have offered no opinion on stms circumstances and don't intend to.
as stm herself hassaid she does not want approval to have a section, she wants advice on how to get correct and importnat information.

aloha · 27/06/2005 16:55

Well, maternal morbidity and mortality has fallen as well as infant morbidity and mortality while c-=section rates have risen. If sections were as dangerous as we have been told, I hardly think that would be the case.
The risks of a maternal choice caesarian with local anaesthetic are ridiculously small.
Even the birth crisis network agrees that women who have chosen sections are not traumatised or depressed by them.

aloha · 27/06/2005 16:57

I am in favour of choice - for EVERYONE - not just women who want vaginal birth.

motherinferior · 27/06/2005 16:58

I honestly think all birth choices carry risks - mainly to the mother, not the baby (an elective section after 39 weeks is pretty safe going). Myself, I didn't want a section as I've said. But birth is often a choice - or, of course, no choice because events dictate the birthing option - between two not very wonderful options, if you don't find vaginal birth easy.

vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 16:59

perhaps mobidity and mortality have dropped due to effeciency within the health care service, better post operative care, better scbu care, etc rather than having a great deal to do with an increase insection rates.
women having sections because there is a problem with the baby that can be resolved by surgery if delivered early, that would have died if gone to term is alos included in these figures.

aloha · 27/06/2005 17:00

If I had had a vaginal birth with ds then we both would have died. Which tends to make me a bit impatient with the 'our bodies are designed for birth' brigade.

SoupDragon · 27/06/2005 17:07

Ah, they are designed for vaginal birth but "in nature" complications would keep the population down. Now we are a civilised society, we have introduced choices that would not naturally be there. This is, of course, a good thing!!

vickiyumyum · 27/06/2005 17:08

aloha - then that is your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. i still don't understand you vitirol towards other peoples opinions but there you go different strokes, different folks and all that.

stm it really is helpful to read the nice guidelines which are here

aloha · 27/06/2005 17:15

From what I understand our bodies are actually designed (or rather, have evolved) really fantastically well for standing up (so we can use our hands) and thinking - hence narrow pelvises and great big heads full of our big brains). These two things have made us World's Top Species. However, this design (or evolution), also has fairly serious negative consequences for giving birth vaginally in many women (because obviously small head and the big pelvis of the animal that goes on all fours is a far better design for birth).
But luckily, because we can stand upright and have big brains, we can invent and perform the caesarian under local anaesthetic!
The design is, as I understand it, a compromise, which as Soupy says, involves a certain death rate as the cost of our intelligence and world domination.

homemama · 27/06/2005 17:16

It's a shame we're still arguing amongst ourselves rather than being sure that STM now has all the info she needs.
Choice really is the key word whether you agree with it or not.
Personally, I don't agree with c-sections for social reasons but then I didn't choose to have one. It's worth mentioning that I also don't agree with SATS, silly little cars or mayonnaise so judge me as you will.