Passive Birth !!

[mogwai]

Ok, so I know there's all this stuff about "active birth" and yoga, meditation, releasing your natural endorphins and riding on the crest of your waves of pain.

I really admire people who have the courage to embrace an "active birth"

Personally I feel that advances in medical technology have allowed me the luxury of wallowing in my own cowardice and I want all the pain relief I can lay my hands on.

Should I strat up a "passive birth" centre to advocate us cowards having as little as possible to do with the whole process, a random selection of cream cakes and DVDs in the delivery suite and a full bikini wax under epidural?

Who's up for that??

Go for it
Do you know that I have known quite a few woman who I were more than happy to have all the drugs and were not interested in the active birth/no drugs business - and guess what they had a natural birth
NOT their choice but they got to hospital too late !!! They were so laid back they found it reasonably easy and when they wanted the drugs, baby was crowning!
And for those who read/research the active birth, well many end with loads of drugs... there is something to be said for being laid back!

I totally agree

Am fairly chilled, never thought I would be, then again, things never work out exactly as you think they will

Still....my choice would be the cream cakes and full wax

I had a bikini wax a couple of days before an elective CS. No prizes for guessing which was almost unbearably painful and which was a breeze............

count me in mogwai. I wasn't going to try and be a hero when I had dd

you could charge about a tenner a time for 90 minutes of lounging around and eating biscuits, that's kind of what the Active Birth Centre did with about 50 minutes of yoga

suzywong!

I hope they aren't reading this!!

Mmm that's quite a moneyspinner

don't get me started on what Janet Balaskas's husband will charge for a 4 session course!

don't care if they are reading it

Yup Mogwai, I wanna join too !

I'd rather have the baby lying back with a lovely epidural reading some magazines than going through hours and hours of hell.

I'm a total coward, I can't handle pain at all and I really really don't believe that I could 'breathe through the pain', so I'm gonna have every pain medication going ... at least twice.

...said that to my NCT class and was so not popular, lol.

i'm all up for it!
i had planned a more "active" birth.. but it bloody HURT!!! LOL

Wasn't long before I was screaming for an epidural and offering the anaesthetist all kinds of things if he would do it quicker. That was between sobbing that I was gonna die because it was so painful!!!

Also, I think at your passive birth centre you should ban midwives (and anyone else) from saying "you're doing well... that was a realy good push... he's nearly out"...
When it blatantly isn't true because you then carry on pushing for another hour and end up with ventouse!!! LOL

I don't get people who are totally against pain relief... why not take it if it's available?
I mean, you don't see people having their leg amputated with no anaesthetic do you?

Starlover, I wonder that too. I'm not sure if it's a remnant of the old Christian/Judaic belief that women are meant to suffer in childbirth because of 'apple-gate' or if it's just that there is this under-lying pressure on women to be matyrs in childbirth to feel like they've 'earned' the baby. I'm really not sure, all I know that is that I've never had a filling done at the dentist without an injection.

I'm a whimp and I'm not ashamed.

I would have taken drugs if I had needed them, not against them at all. Plus these drugs can have side effects for mum and baby, nothing is without risks. I only had gas and air at the end but that was all that was on offer for a home birth. For me it was worth it not having to go hospital.

I also really enjoyed my ante natal yoga.

But maybe it is just me.

I guess I am just not a wimp!

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Do you get cream cakes with your epidural now?

Weesadie, I totally admire women like you I just know that I personally cannae do it.

I didn't think I could! My mum suggested a home birth and I thought that sounds nice, 'why not?' Ha ha!

Anyway I had a fairly short (still painful!) labour so I think that helped me go without pain relief. If had been really long and slow I probably would have been in the hospital with an epidural too.

I wouldn't mind a hospital with no drugs and no food if I could have a midwife who didn't have to fill every minute with constant chat. Why can't they just be quiet?

lol. I wasn't with midwives that much until the end because I was at home so I didn't have that problem.

actually I'm tempted to join NCT quite simply because I'd LOVE to plug the "Passive Birth" Centre at their coffee mornings - can you imagine

So let's get this straight - no midwives unless they shut up, a sushi-style conveyor belt of cream horns and muffins, access to every copy of Hello, OK, Closer, More and Heat from the last 12 months, internet access, and PLENTY of epidural!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think this could be just as much of a money spinner as the Active Birth Centre and I won't even have to get nto any yoga positions or wear a kaftan!!

Result!!

SPRAY@mogwai!

oh and no dh/dp's being spare parts in yor peripheral vision

I will join

I'm not too bothered about the epidural, wouldn't want one myself, but I would have paid LOADS to get a quiet midwife an ice making machine and a tv.

I had tv last time bm! watched nigella making puddings sky-high with pethidine
Kept embarrasing dp telling him how much i Lurrrved him ...
Good drug that

very
I was alone with the midwife for most of my labour, mum arrived towards the end, and only the thought that I would have to let this woman look after my new baby was stopping me from shouting JUST SHUT UP YOU SILLY COW!! tv would have been amazing.

oh bm
if you do it again, take MP3 and earplugs! and all the drugs they offer
I can't remember any of the recipes ... and dp and I are NOT lovey dovy. It was all an illusion from Planet Painrelief ..