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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!elective c section am i just a wimp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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dressedupnowheretogo · 03/07/2006 12:58

im thinking of going for an elective c section my feelings towards the birth are getting more and more pulled towards petrified than excited

am i being silly or would i be better off

am worried about everyting and this issue is just adding to it

sorry for being a whinge and a wimp

please help

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claraboo · 06/07/2006 14:18

and yes, I think a previous section necessitates choice. Not a first time mum who doesn't want to give it a go. She needs her issues supported and dealt with not a quick but expensive sticking plaster.

expatinscotland · 06/07/2006 14:19

'She needs her issues supported and dealt with'

Like that's going to happen in most PCTs. LOL!

Pruni · 06/07/2006 14:20

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claraboo · 06/07/2006 14:22

I have a right to say what I think, that is what everyone else has been doing, you certainly.
You have made it clear what your views are, it seems that you consider your views to be more valid than mine, simply beacause you do not agree with them .
Both of our view points have equal weighting. If I don't have the 'right' to give my view points then neither do you. I thought you wanted people to have the right to do whatever whenever, or is that only if you agree with it?

Uwila · 06/07/2006 14:23

i don't think the OP would appreciate being told she neeeds her feeling fixed. Her fears are real and forcing her into a vaginal birth she doesn't want isn't going to help her. That would be a bit like taking someone who is afraid of hights and pushing them out of a plane, expecting they are going to have a lovely first-time sky diving experience.

I have been sky diving and I thought is was great fun. But, it's not for me to force everyone else to go do it.

claraboo · 06/07/2006 14:24

Why would that make any differnce to me? I am not clinging on to anything. I believe I am right as do you.

Pruni · 06/07/2006 14:25

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bundle · 06/07/2006 14:26

it's kicked off, then.....

Uwila · 06/07/2006 14:26

The difference Claraboo is that you want your views applied to everyone, and I want my views applied to me. Just as I want other people's views applied to them.

claraboo · 06/07/2006 14:27

I have zeal beacause I feel pasionately about this.I was actually thinking how much those in disagreement with me have chosen to ignore information which doesn't support their argument

blueshoes · 06/07/2006 14:28

Precisely because a mother's (whether first time or otherwise) issues are not supported or dealt with that women should have the choice of a cs, if they are more comfortable with the risk profile of cs as opposed to a vb (and I agree with Uwila that you need to include VB+forceps/ventouse/crash cs into this risk group).

VB is only (arguably) cheap compared with cs because the NHS provide inadequate resources in terms of competent and supportive midwives and post-natal support by way of properly trained HVs and mental health professionals.

Pruni · 06/07/2006 14:28

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claraboo · 06/07/2006 14:29

uwila- we were talking about the RIGHT to choose. You said we should, I said we shouldn't

Toady · 06/07/2006 14:29

For what it is worth I think that if the NHS put more money into midwives rather than unnecessary sections then mums would not be so traumatised having a baby and would not opt for a section second time round. I mean we are meant to give birth arn't we?

claraboo · 06/07/2006 14:31

I'm sure you'll all be relieved to find out that I am going about other jobs now. You can feel happy that you can all agree with each other and not have anyone rocking the boat

Uwila · 06/07/2006 14:34

Actually, I said we DO. And you said we shouldn't. But, see I am saying, I want section s for me and whaatever you want for you. And you are sayinf vaginal for you ... and for everyone else too whether they like it or not.

Pruni · 06/07/2006 14:36

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Snook · 06/07/2006 15:39

I find it really sad that someone would want to judge another person's decision over something that is so personal.

My first dd was elective c/section due to breech presentation and I was devastated at the time. However the experience was so positive that I have elected for c/s again with my second (18th July!). I feel that some people 'look down' on the decision as though it's some kind of cop out, but which ever way the baby comes out it is a major procedure and I think we should all respect our own personal preferences.

claraboo · 06/07/2006 16:57

"puative diktat" makes no sense linguistically, what were you trying to say? If you look back at your own threads I think you will find that they are hardly sophisticated and full of great import. Well then, so now it comes to slagging off. I personally have chosen not to attack you in order to strenghten my argument, I haven't felt the need, it seems you have.

Uwila · 06/07/2006 17:04

Well, at least this thread has prepared booby for the heated debate she will surely hear post birth.

Overrun · 06/07/2006 17:22

Do feel worried actually that this debate which has got extremely heated is probably not very theraputic for some one who is pretty emotionally vulnerable atm.
Perhaps, as someone else has suggested, the original post got a bit lost, as people do seem to have such strong feelings on the subject

Pruni · 06/07/2006 18:26

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muminaquandary · 06/07/2006 21:19

well said snook & overrun

can we all just get together and send Booby some +ve vibes please

GOOD LUCK BOOBY

sarahlou1uk · 06/07/2006 21:52

Booby - whatever you decide GOOD LUCK! After all, you orginally started this thread because you wanted some support, not arguments about which method of delivery is best. Let us know what you decide

sandradee · 06/07/2006 22:05

Sorry to crash this thread and if all has been said before I apologise.

You will be kidding yourself if you think normal labour is not painful because it is (VERY) but it can be managed through breathing, walking around if you are able to and drugs such as an epidural (which i ended up having even though I vowed I would not).

I think people think that C-sections are a walk in the park compared to the natural birth. They are not. Don't ever forget that they are a major operation and the surgeons have to move around your internal organs (liver etc) to get to the baby.

Personally I think that if you end up having one because you have to or because you have decided with your Dr before hand thats it's the safest option for you and your baby then fine, but if it's because you don't like the thought of a little bit of pain then yes it is a cop out.

Anyway part of the fun afterwards was sharing my experiences with friends who had been through it in minute detail.

Saying that good luck with what you decide to do - afterall you have to be comfortable with what you decide to do.