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13yo might be sectioned please help

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TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 15:41

first post on here im usually a lurker sorry if it’s a mess i just don’t feel like anyone in real life gets it and i need somewhere to put it all down.

i have 3 boys. eldest is 28 and lives with his partner and their baby so at home it’s just me DS2 who’s 19 and my youngest who is 13 turning 14 this year. i knew from when he was small something wasn’t right but i was always told i was just anxious or too soft. everyone told me it was behavioural and basically my fault. but it never felt like that. my other two were fine, it’s not the same.

primary was awful. school said no SEN again and again. when he was 10 he said he wanted to die. begged camhs for help. got an “emergency” referral that still took 2 months. they said yes something’s going on but assessment would be 3+ years. i went private, got him diagnosed with adhd at 11. got meds. first lot made him sick. second lot helped a bit but now he refuses to take any of it.

started secondary and it all went downhill fast. self harming every single day. drinking when he can. i can’t have alcohol in the house at all anymore. runs off if things don’t go his way. sometimes police bring him back, sometimes he just wanders back in himself after hours.

he’s got this friend from his old primary (she’s not at his secondary). they seem to compete with the self harm. i’ve tried to stop contact but she just makes new roblox accounts and finds him. when i’ve taken his devices away he completely loses it, screaming at me, smashing stuff, shouting that i don’t care if he dies.

school have him in learning support mostly. they say he can actually work when it’s one to one but he can’t manage a normal class. he loses his temper quickly, punches walls, throws chairs.

sunday was the worst. i went to DS1s for lunch. his girlfriend doesn’t want DS around their baby. came home and DS had a knife. he threatened me with it and then threatened DS2 as well. eventually dropped it and ran. police came and took him to hospital.

he’s still on the children’s ward. he’s told them i hurt him which i don’t. never have. but once he’s said it, that’s it. staff look at me like i’m the problem. social services were round monday, “just checking” because of what he said. it felt like an investigation. i told them everything. i feel like i’m the one on trial not him getting help.

i rang camhs on monday and again tuesday. both times they said because he’s in hospital now it’s with the crisis team and not them. basically pushed me back to the ward. rang the ward yesterday to see if i could get a straight answer and the nurse just said “he’s unsettled but safe here at the moment. there’ll be a professionals meeting to decide next steps.” no one will actually tell me what’s happening.

i went to see him on monday even though i knew he didn’t want me there. i didn’t want to go against his wishes or unsettle him further but the staff said he might calm down if i came. it didn’t help. he was furious, screamed at me, swore, told me to leave, refused to speak to me. it broke my heart and i left after a few minutes because he was getting more and more upset. i don’t think i’ll go again until he asks or staff say it’s ok.

i’ve been told there’s a meeting tomorrow. it’s supposed to be me, social worker, someone from camhs/crisis, the consultant from the ward, school safeguarding, and the police officer who dealt with sunday. all sat round a table talking about my child like i’m not even there. they’ve said sectioning is on the table but i don’t know what that really means. do i pack clothes? his phone? his games? i asked the nurse and she said “it depends where he goes” which doesn’t help me at all.

he isn’t just badly behaved. i know my child. this isn’t just him being difficult. sometimes he’s actually really sweet. he’s funny when he wants to be, he’ll sit and play games with DS2, he’s brilliant with animals, patient even. he’s clever too, school say he does well one to one with learning support. when he’s calm he can be lovely. it’s like a switch flips and he’s gone.

since sunday he won’t see me. he’s told the staff he doesn’t want me there. says maybe one of his brothers can visit. DS2 is too shaken up to go. DS1 said maybe but hasn’t been yet. i’m sat at home not knowing what’s happening with my own son.

i feel like i’ve completely failed him. i fought and fought for help from the start and no one listened. now he’s 13 and he self harms every day, he drinks, he threatens us with knives, he runs off, he’s said i hurt him when i haven’t, and i don’t know what’s going to happen next.

has anyone been through a child being sectioned in england. what actually happens. what do i do, what should i send with him. how long do they keep them. do they actually get help or is it just containment. i feel broken.

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IneedtheeohIneedtheeeveryhourIneedthee · 11/09/2025 10:07

Well he can't just come home and carry on as normal can he OP? He needs help right now that you can't give him to keep both him and others safe.
Forget any stigma. He is very young and still has a lot of life ahead of him - let the professionals help him now.

Mydustymonstera · 11/09/2025 10:19

You can go see the ward staff, bring him a note or card, some snacks, they will be able to tell you more face to face than you can get over the phone and can give the things to him.

Helpless25 · 11/09/2025 12:04

Hope the meeting goes well. Make sure you tell them how it affects you and family life too so they know the whole picture.

They used to ask us what we wanted to happen and we had to say we just want him safe and happy but we’re not professionals so we’ll leave it up to you to decide what’s the best option for him.

ComfortFoodCafe · 11/09/2025 12:07

This happened to my brother.
He was sectioned a few times as a teen, he eventually got better. He now works as a full time nurse has a mortage & a wife and is very happy in life.
You did the right thing.

TheBigRedDog · 11/09/2025 13:37

just wanted to update after today’s meeting. it was as overwhelming as i expected, a room full of professionals all using words i only half understood. the consultant led most of it, social worker, camhs/crisis, school safeguarding, the police officer and me all sat round the table. they all agreed he needs to stay in hospital for now. they said it isn’t safe for him or for us at home, which i can’t argue with after sunday. sectioning was mentioned but they said at the moment he’s “consenting” to stay so they haven’t gone down that route yet, but it’s still on the table if he tries to leave.

they talked a lot about how he’s presenting, how unsettled he is, and how his risk of harming himself is high. school said they can’t manage him in a mainstream class and they don’t think he’s safe to return until things are more stable. the social worker asked me if i felt safe with him at home and i said honestly no, not at the moment. i felt awful saying it but it’s the truth. they said the next step is to look for a CAMHS inpatient bed. it might not be local, they were clear about that, but they’ll try. i asked how long it might be and they just said “weeks to months, not days.”

after the meeting i went to see him. he seemed exhausted, just lay there quiet for the most part. then he suddenly asked me if he was going to prison for what he did. i told him no but he wouldn’t believe me. he kept saying i was lying, that he was going to prison, and got more and more upset with me. he showed me his arms where he’d bitten and scratched himself and said he deserved to be punished, that he should die. he was also asking for his switch and said he wanted to go outside or for a walk but they won’t let him go anywhere, and then he blamed me for it. i tried to calm him down but it only seemed to make him worse so in the end i left because he was so distressed.

i spoke to the ward nurses after and they just said he’s unsettled but safe, that they’re keeping a close eye on him. they were kind but i still feel like i’m on the outside looking in.

he does still wet himself sometimes, not every day but a few times a month. there doesn’t seem to be a pattern, it’s not like it only happens when he’s gaming for instance. the GP ruled out anything medical but i don’t know anymore.

now i’m home and i just feel empty. i keep worrying about what happens next. he hasn’t even started puberty yet, his voice hasn’t broken, he still looks like a little boy in so many ways. what if it all gets ten times worse when hormones kick in and he’s bigger and stronger. i honestly don’t know how we’d cope then.

thank you to everyone who’s posted, it helps to be able to write it out here.

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24Dogcuddler · 11/09/2025 13:46

That sounds like such an ordeal. He’s just lashing out verbally because he’s not well. Sounds like he’s in the right place. Well done for being open and honest. It must have been so tough.
Right now isn’t the time but once calmer he would probably benefit from an OT sensory assessment.
Re the wetting for example that could be Interoception difficulties. As I say not a priority right now.
Take care of yourself.

BusyExpert · 11/09/2025 13:48

one of the wisest things I have ever heard was a psychiatrist saying no parent is responsible for how their child turns out, they are a mixture of all the genes of their ancestors and there are parents that do everything right but their child has massive problems and others that are neglectful and cruel and their child is fine
all your can do is the best you can, love them and support them and be there for them when life gets tough this is not your fault and blaming yourself is not going to help you deal with it
you must let the treatment plan run its course there isn’t any more that you can do now
I am so sorry for you and your son,life is shit at times but hang on in there it will get better

pottylolly · 11/09/2025 13:56

Sectioning is a good thing. I also suggest telling social services you don’t want him back in the house as that will trigger more urgent help for him and you. Otherwise you’ll just be put to the back of the queue.

Septemberain25 · 11/09/2025 14:15

I know it's been very traumatic for you, but at least he's getting the care that he needs now. None of this is your fault - he's having a mental health crisis, but there is treatment and supports available.

You totally did the right thing in saying that you wouldn't feel safe with him at home at the moment, he needs more help than you're able to give him.

He's safe now, and you and your other child are safe, but so sorry you're all going through this. Hope he gets a treatment plan sorted soon.

Blimeyblighty · 11/09/2025 14:25

Oh OP what a difficult time for you all. Please keep posting here and looking for support for yourself.

bracemyselfagain · 11/09/2025 14:55

I’m sending you all the love and hugs I possibly can ❤️

Arran2024 · 11/09/2025 15:02

He's in the best place right now. They will want to assess him before trying anything so don't expect any sudden changes. He will be scared - he may take it out on you now but he will feel safer as the days go by xx

Skybluepinky · 11/09/2025 15:09

His behaviour is out of control and he needs sectioning and help to sort himself out, you can’t help him you don’t have the correct skills.

mynannygoat7 · 11/09/2025 15:20

I’d put money on him being autistic as well, OP. And in meltdown and burnout:

Mancity08 · 11/09/2025 16:03

It 100% isn’t anything you’ve done with his up bringing as you said “ you knew something was odd” so don’t go down that route you’ll just make yourself ill.
I agree the hospital is the right place , but please keep up with what they are upto. It’s your son at the end of the day and you want the best care for him.
Don’t let them when the time comes
Let them keep adding pcych meds to his list, one at a time. A pcych med takes anything from days to 6-8 weeks on each dose if upped, so needs time to work. Don’t let them up the dose until there’s been enough time for it to adjust to his brain. Pcych are very quick at stop/starting meds with no concern for the patients welfare re- side effects when starting up or increasing/decreasing
it can be pure hell(don’t wish to scare you)
Until they/you see some vast improvement please say NO to coming back home as you will be back to square one.
Id suggest if he’s highly strung when he asked you questions regarding his care etc
you say “ you havnt been told anything yet no answers”
If he kicks off, (which he probably will as he thinks he can with you) walk out and tell the nurse on the way out.

He needs to be stable, ask for therapy especially when he’s been diagnosed, which may take a few weeks yet.

At least in hospital he’s not running away, kicking off big time,trashing your house etc, he’s safe, getting fed, warm and in medical environment
You have to look after yourself, sleep,food, rest
and look after ds.

piscofrisco · 11/09/2025 16:48

I feel for you Op. my dd was a voluntary in patient on a psychiatric ward aged 14.She had suffered a significant trauma and her mental health became awful as a result until she attempted suicide several times and was admitted. They would I think have sectioned her had she not agreed to stay in. Throughout my dealings with her team
of MH professionals I was made to feel it was in some way my fault. She herself was also blameful up of me and to a lesser degree her Dad but has later and when well admitted she just said those things as she felt she had to say something during her therapy and meetings. It was by far the worst thing that has ever happened to any of us, the hardest thing to go through. I felt so distressed and like I’d let her down, and ashamed in some ways.But none of it was my fault and none of this is yours. We do our best for our kids-if course we aren’t perfect-but what you are describing is a serious MH crisis and isn’t caused by the odd telling off of whatever else you will be beating yourself up for.

he is in the best place which I know is hard when you just want him home and to hold him and make it all go away as you could when he was little.
You will as PP have said have to bug his team for info and stay on top of what is happening with him.
outward of that all you can do is visit when you can. Take him any thing allowed that will comfort him. Tell him you love him.

My DD is doing well now. She was diagnosed with inattentive ADD and is now being treated for that but also had alot of therapy to deal with the incident that triggered her crisis. She is about to go to university and seems happy (though I think I will always watch her like a hawk). We have a great relationship which at the height of her issues I wouldn’t have believed possible.
Hang in there OP. Sending you lots of love. It’s a horrible journey but you can get out the other side of this.

Creamcheesedreams · 11/09/2025 17:43

I’m not sure if you’ve answered this before but have you got access to his Roblox acc? I know there’s a lot of chat around at the moment about how unsafe it is for kids with adults accessing children thru the game

I understand he’s been different from your other kids since birth but if his behaviour is escalating, might be worth having a look to discard the possibility

you are doing everything you can and he is lucky he has you even if he doesn’t think it right now

TheBigRedDog · 11/09/2025 20:06

i’ve wondered about autism too. when he was little i asked about it more than once but school were adamant it was just “naughty behaviour” and camhs wouldn’t assess back then. he struggles so much with change and gets overwhelmed really quickly. if he’s focused on something he can get lost in it for hours, but if you interrupt him it’s like flicking a switch and he explodes. he’s very black and white about things as well. it all makes me think there’s more going on than just adhd but trying to get anyone to listen has been impossible.

i didn’t even know meltdown and burnout were proper terms until i started reading more about autism online. it feels like him though. he can manage for a bit and then it all comes crashing down and he just can’t cope. if he is autistic i feel like i’ve failed him by not fighting harder for that diagnosis earlier.

i do have his roblox account. i’ve gone through it before and most of the chats just look like silly game stuff but i worry i’m missing something. he deletes things too which makes it harder. i know there’s been news about adults using it to get to kids and it terrifies me. his friend is definitely the biggest influence though, she always finds a way to message him again no matter how many times i block her. when i do block her he completely loses it, screaming at me, smashing things, saying i don’t care if he dies, and it just spirals from there. it’s awful to see.

he has been different since birth. he never slept properly, he was always on the go, everything was bigger with him, good and bad. it’s just that now the bad is so extreme i don’t recognise him anymore. i don’t think i’ll ever stop blaming myself, even though people say it’s not my fault.

thank you for saying he’s lucky to have me. i don’t feel like that at all right now but it means a lot to read it.

OP posts:
Blimeyblighty · 15/09/2025 21:22

I hope things are feeling a little better for you and your family @TheBigRedDog

Helpless25 · 19/09/2025 22:47

I hope you’re all ok @TheBigRedDog have been thinking of you and hoping you’re all getting the help and support you need.

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