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13yo might be sectioned please help

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TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 15:41

first post on here im usually a lurker sorry if it’s a mess i just don’t feel like anyone in real life gets it and i need somewhere to put it all down.

i have 3 boys. eldest is 28 and lives with his partner and their baby so at home it’s just me DS2 who’s 19 and my youngest who is 13 turning 14 this year. i knew from when he was small something wasn’t right but i was always told i was just anxious or too soft. everyone told me it was behavioural and basically my fault. but it never felt like that. my other two were fine, it’s not the same.

primary was awful. school said no SEN again and again. when he was 10 he said he wanted to die. begged camhs for help. got an “emergency” referral that still took 2 months. they said yes something’s going on but assessment would be 3+ years. i went private, got him diagnosed with adhd at 11. got meds. first lot made him sick. second lot helped a bit but now he refuses to take any of it.

started secondary and it all went downhill fast. self harming every single day. drinking when he can. i can’t have alcohol in the house at all anymore. runs off if things don’t go his way. sometimes police bring him back, sometimes he just wanders back in himself after hours.

he’s got this friend from his old primary (she’s not at his secondary). they seem to compete with the self harm. i’ve tried to stop contact but she just makes new roblox accounts and finds him. when i’ve taken his devices away he completely loses it, screaming at me, smashing stuff, shouting that i don’t care if he dies.

school have him in learning support mostly. they say he can actually work when it’s one to one but he can’t manage a normal class. he loses his temper quickly, punches walls, throws chairs.

sunday was the worst. i went to DS1s for lunch. his girlfriend doesn’t want DS around their baby. came home and DS had a knife. he threatened me with it and then threatened DS2 as well. eventually dropped it and ran. police came and took him to hospital.

he’s still on the children’s ward. he’s told them i hurt him which i don’t. never have. but once he’s said it, that’s it. staff look at me like i’m the problem. social services were round monday, “just checking” because of what he said. it felt like an investigation. i told them everything. i feel like i’m the one on trial not him getting help.

i rang camhs on monday and again tuesday. both times they said because he’s in hospital now it’s with the crisis team and not them. basically pushed me back to the ward. rang the ward yesterday to see if i could get a straight answer and the nurse just said “he’s unsettled but safe here at the moment. there’ll be a professionals meeting to decide next steps.” no one will actually tell me what’s happening.

i went to see him on monday even though i knew he didn’t want me there. i didn’t want to go against his wishes or unsettle him further but the staff said he might calm down if i came. it didn’t help. he was furious, screamed at me, swore, told me to leave, refused to speak to me. it broke my heart and i left after a few minutes because he was getting more and more upset. i don’t think i’ll go again until he asks or staff say it’s ok.

i’ve been told there’s a meeting tomorrow. it’s supposed to be me, social worker, someone from camhs/crisis, the consultant from the ward, school safeguarding, and the police officer who dealt with sunday. all sat round a table talking about my child like i’m not even there. they’ve said sectioning is on the table but i don’t know what that really means. do i pack clothes? his phone? his games? i asked the nurse and she said “it depends where he goes” which doesn’t help me at all.

he isn’t just badly behaved. i know my child. this isn’t just him being difficult. sometimes he’s actually really sweet. he’s funny when he wants to be, he’ll sit and play games with DS2, he’s brilliant with animals, patient even. he’s clever too, school say he does well one to one with learning support. when he’s calm he can be lovely. it’s like a switch flips and he’s gone.

since sunday he won’t see me. he’s told the staff he doesn’t want me there. says maybe one of his brothers can visit. DS2 is too shaken up to go. DS1 said maybe but hasn’t been yet. i’m sat at home not knowing what’s happening with my own son.

i feel like i’ve completely failed him. i fought and fought for help from the start and no one listened. now he’s 13 and he self harms every day, he drinks, he threatens us with knives, he runs off, he’s said i hurt him when i haven’t, and i don’t know what’s going to happen next.

has anyone been through a child being sectioned in england. what actually happens. what do i do, what should i send with him. how long do they keep them. do they actually get help or is it just containment. i feel broken.

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hkathy · 10/09/2025 17:34

OP, you are not the problem. It’s ok. He’s getting the help he needs now. It getting to a crisis, at this early age, means you now as a family have time to band around him and support him.
I feel for you because this is what my mum had to do for my brother and is still doing it into her 70s.
Where is his father?

beAsensible1 · 10/09/2025 17:36

I’m so sorry this is happening OP. I do think hospital might be the best place for him so that he can be spoken to and possibly some more insight Into his mental health and a more in depth diagnosis as well as working with him to take his medication.

right now it doesn’t seem safe for him or you to send him home just yet.

do call and check on him, it’s not a bother he is your son and he is hurting. Of course you can check.

you are fine to check with all the workers in the meeting about what’s going on. Your opinion does matter in this.

BreezyPeachGoose · 10/09/2025 17:39

If the professionals opt to use the Mental Health Act to support your sons recovery, ensure you request a Independent Mental Health Advocate for him to help him navigate his care and to ensure his voice is heard.

Seelybe · 10/09/2025 18:00

@TheBigRedDog awful situation for you all. What stands out for me is that your son's ADHD is severe enough for medication to have been seen as necessary. If he won't take it that may be why his behaviour has spiralled so much. If he is now displaying psychiatric symptoms sectioning might have benefits. If he can see that medication helps him he might get onto a better path going forward and there is advantage to getting on top of things before he spirals further and ends up in serious trouble. As a mum you'd hate the idea but if it's a means of getting treatment quickly it could be short term pain for long term gain.

Bumdrops · 10/09/2025 18:06

It sounds like it’s been very difficult for you all for a long time, and now things have come to a head -
painful as that is, this is what probably needed to happen to really start to get to the bottom of what is going on for him, and then you have some hope of a treatment pathway
go with the process, keep talking to the ward staff, he should have a lead nurse or a care coordinator- they will be your best contact

Helpless25 · 10/09/2025 18:19

I have some experience of this although my son was a few years older.
To be honest if they decide he needs to be sectioned you won’t have a choice or a say in where he goes.
We had to wait a few weeks for a bed to become available and it might not necessarily be local.
I wouldn’t pack anything until you know what’s happening as different places have different rules about what’s allowed/provided etc.
Hopefully he’ll get the help he needs and be properly assessed.
It’s a horrible time as a parent and expect to be blamed by your son for everything. You just have to let the professionals do what needs to be done. I hope you’re ok and getting some support.

TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 18:56

i rang the ward earlier and they just said he’s “settled for now” which i suppose is something but it doesn’t stop my mind racing. i’m dreading tomorrow’s meeting so much i can’t do anything to distract myself. i keep trying to watch tv or tidy up but it’s pointless, i just sit there going over every possible outcome.

i don’t think it’s just adhd. that’s what they’ve been saying all along, like that explains everything, but it doesn’t. and they wouldn’t give him any medication for his mental health because of his age. sunday wasn’t just him lashing out at us either, he was threatening himself with the knife as well.

someone asked about his dad - we split up years ago. he isn’t involved at all, no visits, no calls, nothing. it’s just me and the boys. DS2 helps when he can, they are very close, but this has scared him too.

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TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 20:25

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soupyspoon · 10/09/2025 20:31

Its hard with children because CAMHS will say everything (nearly) is behavioural meaning that they have learned to deal with uncomfortable feelings with habits liek feeling suicidal or self harm and its just a habitual behaviour rather than a MH condition

On the other hand I dont believe always that behaviour is borne out of trauma, sometimes someone is just ill, in the way that we have physical illnesses. If he needed hospital because of a physical illness then we would just accept that but for some reason because it might be an MH condition we feel uncomfortable about that for a child

They're also very reluctant to formally diagnose MH conditions pre 18.

There is also the obvious possibility that he is acting out of trauma, in which case they're less likely to define it as a MH condition which is treatable and temporary.

TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 22:08

thank you for explaining it like that, it makes a bit more sense. i don’t think it’s based around trauma as he hasn’t gone through any which i know of. it feels more like something inside him he just can’t manage or switch off from. he can be fine one minute and then it’s like he’s a completely different child the next.

i know they don’t like to diagnose young but it feels like waiting years and years just leaves him in this horrible limbo. i keep thinking if he’d broken a bone or had something physically wrong there would be no hesitation in treating him straight away.

i’m just hoping tomorrow’s meeting finally means something gets put in place. i can’t see him carrying on like this for much longer without proper help

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SeriouslyStressed · 10/09/2025 22:14

My DD was in paediatric psychiatric hospital at the age of 13. She wasn’t sectioned but they said if she didn’t go willingly they would have to section her. She was in for a few months. You can message me if you like

doubleshift · 10/09/2025 22:15

There’s a very supportive Facebook group called Parenting Mental Health and they have an inpatient sub-group. Worth joining as another sources of support from others with lives experience.

KickHimInTheCrotch · 10/09/2025 22:25

I would really encourage DS1 to step up and try and visit. Hes 15 years older than him so a kind of father figure of sorts. I know DS1 is probably very busy and maybe a bit worried about whats going on but I think it would be a huge benefit to DS3 and to you if he could try and support you both a bit.

mamagogo1 · 10/09/2025 22:30

I have a volunteer who has schizophrenia and some other conditions too, he’s been sectioned a couple of times but now his meds are sorted he’s been doing well for over 10 years, puberty was tough his dad said and they fought for diagnosis as were fobbed off with adhd too, and they released him too quickly the first time. He’s now got qualifications having missed so much education when a teen, has moved into at first supported living and now independent and worlds part time, the meds do make him tired buts he’s stable and happy

Crazyquilter · 10/09/2025 22:35

Don’t be worried about the meeting. Your son’s needs are complicated, so everyone has to put their heads together. You need to stay calm and explain the problem from your point of view. Don’t downplay anything. It sounds like a specialist residential placement is needed, but they are scarce and expensive. I’m speaking as an ex mental health and child care social worker.
Good luck.

Flibbertyfloo · 10/09/2025 22:35

It sounds very tough.

Does he have any tics or obsessive compulsive behaviours? Urinary issues? Sensitvity to noise? Looking back,.is there a point at which he noticeably changed? Do his symptoms fluctate at all? E.g. following illness?

Sugargliderwombat · 10/09/2025 22:59

This is awful, OP. Do you think maybe something like schizophrenia is starting to show itself?

I personally think you could keep going and getting the nurse to tell him youre there if he wants you to come in. Keep showing up if you can, even if he can't face seeing people hell know you're there xxx

mumzof4x · 11/09/2025 00:57

Crazyquilter · 10/09/2025 22:35

Don’t be worried about the meeting. Your son’s needs are complicated, so everyone has to put their heads together. You need to stay calm and explain the problem from your point of view. Don’t downplay anything. It sounds like a specialist residential placement is needed, but they are scarce and expensive. I’m speaking as an ex mental health and child care social worker.
Good luck.

This x

Anxiousthoughts · 11/09/2025 07:10

Yes. Best of luck for today OP. The meeting isn't meant to be everyone talking as though you're not there, but your ds's needs are too complex for you to meet alone. He, as you know, needs specialist help and that's what the meeting is there to work out.

Thingyfanding · 11/09/2025 07:19

I don’t know what happens when a child is sectioned but psychiatric help does sound like the right path. They can look at his medication and help to support him with taking that, too. The explosive outbursts do sound like ADHD but it could of course be a multitude of things. They’ll hopefully work it out.
A friends son was sectioned at 14/15 and he’s now 19 and at uni and coping pretty well. Just a little story to give you hope. My heart goes out to you.

SimSam · 11/09/2025 08:14

I’m sorry that you have to go through this and I’m really sorry that your son is sick.

I too have had problems with my daughter’s MH and I know when just writing in a chat helps. You haven’t done anything wrong.

Counselling therapy professionals will give you advice. As a mother also in a difficult family situation I know these words may or may not help you. Just try to hang on to the truth that if you love your child and have spent your life trying to do the best for your child it is not your fault.

breathe deep, try to be kind to yourself. Good luck

maudelovesharold · 11/09/2025 08:30

I hope the meeting today goes well, op, and you come out of it feeling that you and your son are both being supported, and that you can feel more positive about the way forward.

Ivyy · 11/09/2025 09:04

Also suggesting the Parenting Mental Health group on FB op, you will find a lot of experience and support there. Newbold Hope Is also a v good. So sorry you’re going through this x

Lindy2 · 11/09/2025 09:21

I'm so sorry you are going through this.

He sounds completely emotionally overwhelmed and in crisis. Hopefully the hospital admission will lead to the help he needs without the ridiculous waiting times.

I would very much suggest you join the "Parenting Mental Health " Facebook group. You'll find a lot of support and advice on there from parents who are also experiencing mental health situations like this. It might not have solutions but it could help you feel less alone in this situation.

I hope things get better soon.

SilverLining77 · 11/09/2025 09:29

It sounds so difficult OP, take care.

One thing I'd suggest is insisting on no mobile phone access while sectioned, he's unwell and contact with this peer does not help.

It sounds like sectioning may be the best thing for him right now. Hope all goes ok today.