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13yo might be sectioned please help

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TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 15:41

first post on here im usually a lurker sorry if it’s a mess i just don’t feel like anyone in real life gets it and i need somewhere to put it all down.

i have 3 boys. eldest is 28 and lives with his partner and their baby so at home it’s just me DS2 who’s 19 and my youngest who is 13 turning 14 this year. i knew from when he was small something wasn’t right but i was always told i was just anxious or too soft. everyone told me it was behavioural and basically my fault. but it never felt like that. my other two were fine, it’s not the same.

primary was awful. school said no SEN again and again. when he was 10 he said he wanted to die. begged camhs for help. got an “emergency” referral that still took 2 months. they said yes something’s going on but assessment would be 3+ years. i went private, got him diagnosed with adhd at 11. got meds. first lot made him sick. second lot helped a bit but now he refuses to take any of it.

started secondary and it all went downhill fast. self harming every single day. drinking when he can. i can’t have alcohol in the house at all anymore. runs off if things don’t go his way. sometimes police bring him back, sometimes he just wanders back in himself after hours.

he’s got this friend from his old primary (she’s not at his secondary). they seem to compete with the self harm. i’ve tried to stop contact but she just makes new roblox accounts and finds him. when i’ve taken his devices away he completely loses it, screaming at me, smashing stuff, shouting that i don’t care if he dies.

school have him in learning support mostly. they say he can actually work when it’s one to one but he can’t manage a normal class. he loses his temper quickly, punches walls, throws chairs.

sunday was the worst. i went to DS1s for lunch. his girlfriend doesn’t want DS around their baby. came home and DS had a knife. he threatened me with it and then threatened DS2 as well. eventually dropped it and ran. police came and took him to hospital.

he’s still on the children’s ward. he’s told them i hurt him which i don’t. never have. but once he’s said it, that’s it. staff look at me like i’m the problem. social services were round monday, “just checking” because of what he said. it felt like an investigation. i told them everything. i feel like i’m the one on trial not him getting help.

i rang camhs on monday and again tuesday. both times they said because he’s in hospital now it’s with the crisis team and not them. basically pushed me back to the ward. rang the ward yesterday to see if i could get a straight answer and the nurse just said “he’s unsettled but safe here at the moment. there’ll be a professionals meeting to decide next steps.” no one will actually tell me what’s happening.

i went to see him on monday even though i knew he didn’t want me there. i didn’t want to go against his wishes or unsettle him further but the staff said he might calm down if i came. it didn’t help. he was furious, screamed at me, swore, told me to leave, refused to speak to me. it broke my heart and i left after a few minutes because he was getting more and more upset. i don’t think i’ll go again until he asks or staff say it’s ok.

i’ve been told there’s a meeting tomorrow. it’s supposed to be me, social worker, someone from camhs/crisis, the consultant from the ward, school safeguarding, and the police officer who dealt with sunday. all sat round a table talking about my child like i’m not even there. they’ve said sectioning is on the table but i don’t know what that really means. do i pack clothes? his phone? his games? i asked the nurse and she said “it depends where he goes” which doesn’t help me at all.

he isn’t just badly behaved. i know my child. this isn’t just him being difficult. sometimes he’s actually really sweet. he’s funny when he wants to be, he’ll sit and play games with DS2, he’s brilliant with animals, patient even. he’s clever too, school say he does well one to one with learning support. when he’s calm he can be lovely. it’s like a switch flips and he’s gone.

since sunday he won’t see me. he’s told the staff he doesn’t want me there. says maybe one of his brothers can visit. DS2 is too shaken up to go. DS1 said maybe but hasn’t been yet. i’m sat at home not knowing what’s happening with my own son.

i feel like i’ve completely failed him. i fought and fought for help from the start and no one listened. now he’s 13 and he self harms every day, he drinks, he threatens us with knives, he runs off, he’s said i hurt him when i haven’t, and i don’t know what’s going to happen next.

has anyone been through a child being sectioned in england. what actually happens. what do i do, what should i send with him. how long do they keep them. do they actually get help or is it just containment. i feel broken.

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cestlavielife · 10/09/2025 15:44

Sectioning would get him in patient psychiatric support. Which might be beneficial for him.

AmoozzBoosh · 10/09/2025 15:45

I'm so sorry you're all going through such s dreadful time. I don't have the answers you asking for but I want to tell you that you haven't failed him, you've fought for him since day 1 and done your best to protect him and get him the help he needs. None of this is your fault.

I hope now he will get the help needs, and that you are supported also. Flowers

Juicymed · 10/09/2025 15:45

Your son needs to be sectioned

mismomary · 10/09/2025 15:50

Just want to echo that you have NOT failed him. This is NOT your fault. Poor boy does sound like he needs to be sectioned. I'd be relieved if I were you that he is no longer just your responsibility.

Anxiousthoughts · 10/09/2025 15:56

How stressful and heartbreaking for you and your family.

In regard to your practical question, if he is sectioned he will be taken straight to the hospital, which may not be that near, I'm afraid. In the absence of any sensible advice from the hospital, I would take a bag with a couple of changes of clothes, pyjamas, toothbrush and basic toiletries then, if he is taken into a hospital, they will be able to advise on rules re phones, games and so on.

I'm very sorry for what you're going through.

24Dogcuddler · 10/09/2025 15:56

So sorry for you and your family. It sounds like you have been trying to get help and support for a long time.
Look at Forensic CAMHS ward sounds like this is where he is likely to be placed. This will be an opportunity for observation assessment and treatment. There will be a multidisciplinary team involved in any future placement and whether/ when it would be safe for him and you and the family for him to return home.
So sad that it had to reach crisis state before you got support.
Try not to take his personal attacks to heart. He’s clearly unwell.

INeedAnotherName · 10/09/2025 15:58

Just breathe. In and out. In and out.

Right now there is nothing you can do. At the meeting just listen until asked. And breathe. Personally I would pray that they section him so they can evaluate his needs better. They will tell you what to bring, or even if he's allowed games from home. I know the game Fortnite is not a good game for boys to be on.

Stop trying to pre-empt things, wait and listen. And if DS2 is so shaken he can't visit then maybe concentrate on him for a bit. It's not normal to be threatened by a knife in your own home but you seem to have skimmed over that part. Let the professionals concentrate on DS3.

Arran2024 · 10/09/2025 16:02

Behaviour as extreme as you have described is definitely at the threshold for sectioning. The bigger problem would be if they don't section him and decide he can be returned home with a CAMHS out patient appointment in a few weeks.

Your son will get a high level of support if he is sectioned which simply isnt available anywhere else.

But please don't let them railroad you into letting him go home or to a non-secure children's home.

Good luck xx

Helpwithdivorce · 10/09/2025 16:04

Not myself but a work colleagues son was sectioned after repeated attempts at suicide. Best thing that ever happened to him. He got an inpatient at a psychiatric hospital. Completely turned him around. Now a successful young man holding down a job whereas before he’d try and kill himself any time he was alone

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 10/09/2025 16:11

You've tried to help, you've not failed, and sectioning may well be the help your son needs now. He will be front and centre of all services, a chance to get a diagnosis and some form of chance for the future. Sometimes it takes a crisis for anyone to pay attention, so use this opportunity.

SharpMintUser · 10/09/2025 16:15

omg this kid is NOT going to forensic camhs ward!!!! That is absolutely not how it works!! What a thing to tell a parent that is already worried.

Devilsmommy · 10/09/2025 16:21

So sorry you're going through this. I've never had experience of a child being sectioned but my cousin was sectioned at 16 years old to a psychiatric hospital. It sounds like your son does have a psychiatric illness. To be honest the way you described his behaviour when he flips reminded me of when my cousin would have one of his episodes of psychosis. He's a severe paranoid schizophrenic too. Not that I'm saying that's what your son has but the behaviour is definitely similar. I really hope he gets the help he needs and that you also get the answers you both need and want 💐

TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 16:24

thank you everyone who’s replied, it honestly helps just knowing someone is listening. i’m so scared about him being sectioned, i keep thinking what if it makes everything worse. i stupidly googled and read about teenagers who’ve taken their own lives in a hospital not that far from here and now i can’t get that out of my head. i know i shouldn’t have looked but i couldn’t stop myself.

just to say he’s not into fortnite, he plays roblox and pokemon games mostly. the one tiny good thing is he doesn’t have his phone with him, it’s here at home so at least he isn’t wrapped up in messages with his friend on top of everything else.

what i keep panicking about is if they send him miles away. i don’t even know if that’s likely but i keep imagining him stuck somewhere hours from here and me not being able to get to him. i just want to hug him and let him know i love him but he doesn’t want to see me right now and it’s breaking me.

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Twoshoesnewshoes · 10/09/2025 16:27

It’s not really likely he’ll go far away, and they’ll bring him back to area when a bed becomes available.
sectioning is just a formality- essentially it would be that professionals feel he would need an extended stay on a ward and they need the power to prevent him leaving, for his own wellbeing.
yes, pack clothes, toiletries, books, phone, games.
he may not be allowed long sleeves so pack short sleeves and shorts.
sliders or flip flops
nice snacks
headphones

Twoshoesnewshoes · 10/09/2025 16:28

Also write him a note saying you love him and pack that too

Minglingpringle · 10/09/2025 16:35

That sounds so awful, I’m so sorry.

Could he have suffered any kind of trauma at any point that you don’t know about?

Have you ever spoken to the troublesome friend or her family? Might you get any insights from there if you approached them in the right way?

Driftingawaynow · 10/09/2025 16:38

Really feel for you all OP, you have a short time of calm now while this is being dealt with, I would urge you to do everything you can to just catch your breath. Of course you are in a lot of pain and feeling very worried, you will be needed again soon enough but right now he is as safe as he can be and others are taking care of him, do whatever you can to put the oxygen mask on yourself, so you are in better condition when you are next in contact with him or having to make any decisions.

Letsgoroundagainnow · 10/09/2025 16:41

Oh OP how hard for you, you have all my sympathy.

My brother was sectioned at age 17, it was honestly the best thing for him, he was safe and receiving the much needed treatment for him.

As PP said pack him a note saying you love him.

I hope things improve soon for you.

Nestingbirds · 10/09/2025 16:43

Please call your GP and request some counselling - it is free - and you need support as of yesterday. You will feel stronger and more capable when you have proper support. I am so sorry you are going through this. You are now going to get the help your son needs. You are doing an amazing job managing all of this op - it is not your fault.

TheRookieMum · 10/09/2025 16:54

Twoshoesnewshoes · 10/09/2025 16:28

Also write him a note saying you love him and pack that too

I was going to suggest writing to him too. If he won't see you just now, maybe he will find a calm moment and read letters from his mum & brothers if they're willing?

But also echo strongly that you have NOT failed him. That just doesn't sound true from what you've said. Not at all.

AmoozzBoosh · 10/09/2025 17:20

Nestingbirds · 10/09/2025 16:43

Please call your GP and request some counselling - it is free - and you need support as of yesterday. You will feel stronger and more capable when you have proper support. I am so sorry you are going through this. You are now going to get the help your son needs. You are doing an amazing job managing all of this op - it is not your fault.

Your GP might also be able to advise what's likely to happen next

TheBigRedDog · 10/09/2025 17:22

thank you all, it really helps just reading what you’ve written. i did block the friend on DS’s phone and reported it to her school though i obviously wasn’t told about the follow up, her parents weren’t much help and they just put all the blame on DS.

he’s got his little pokemon soft toy with him, i gave it to him monday because he always sleeps with it, i just hope it helps a bit. i was going to phone the ward again to see how he is but i know hospitals are stretched and i don’t want to keep bothering them.

i’m trying to take a bit of a breath like PP said, but it’s so hard not being able to see him or know exactly what’s happening. i keep going over everything i could have done differently.

thank you again for listening. it means more than i can say.

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StrongandNorthern · 10/09/2025 17:26

You have not failed him and it is not your fault.
Being sectioned is probably the best way for him to get the help he needs, and stay safe.
It sounds utterly heartbreaking.
'You are only as happy as your least happy child', so this is an awful time for you.
Keep going. I hope things will improve for you all 😘

ohyesiknowwhatyoumean · 10/09/2025 17:28

I have some knowledge of this - though my DS was a young adult when first sectioned.

If they can find the right medication the transformation will be such a relief - you will get back the sweet boy that you know is in there.

If he is sectioned he will be safe. He will be away from harmful, influences, you will be able to relax, you will know where he is. We cannot fix our children with mental health problems, we can only support them on the journey to wellness if they let us. You will have to learn to detach - which sounds impossible - but if you are going to help him you have to be well enough yourself. It's really tough, try to find sources of support which understand the stresses of caring for someone with a serious mental illness.

TheLilacStork · 10/09/2025 17:28

So sorry for you, how sad. Hope he gets the help he needs and you and your other DSs can get some peace of mind for a bit knowing that. You must have tried so hard over the years, don’t worry about them asking questions now they need to listen to make sure he gets help. You’ve done nothing wrong. Thinking of you and your lovely boy