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All the cancers that formula feeding cause. any figures?

296 replies

mumtotwoboys · 02/04/2010 00:45

So we know bottle feeders suffer more breast and ovarian cancers, and their babies suffer more childhood cancers (like leukimia) and bowel cancers later in life..
Any specific percentages?
Anything showing the amount of cancers it causes in relation to smoking?

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MotherOfBarabas · 03/04/2010 19:13

why don't you type exactly the wording on your pg notes into google, most government docs are online as well as in paper form, so it's most likely come up and we'll all be able to see it.

shitty OP though, like, ultra-shitty. and tbh it's a very negative way to start anyone bfing. she may go into bfing with the best of intentions and it just might not happen, (this has been the case twice with me, both times with HEAPS of support and believe me, a grim determination on my part to succeed, rather at the expense of my mental health i now realise).

so once you've shown us all this doc, might i suggest keeping your trap well shut wrt cancers etc with the mother. the fact is that tampered-with cow's milk cannot be as good as human milk made for that particular baby, it doesn't take much explanation tbh, if the mother wants to hear it. and if she doesn't, you keep it zipped and give your neice or nephew a cuddle from us all.

MotherOfBarabas · 03/04/2010 19:14

information?

surely the whole point is that you didn't actually have the information when you wrote your OP? i can see you wriggling, OP...

mumtotwoboys · 03/04/2010 19:15

I'm a disgusting liar?

Do you get bored and think oh I feel bad so I'll just pick up the next person who says something controversial, take it out of context, slander them and call them names, along with another 20 people, lets really make this woman feel shit today.

I'm 39 weeks pregnant, I got told yesterday that breastfeeding in public is disgusting and should be illegal, I came on here asking for some links of evidence so I could back myself up when telling certain people WHY I'm NOT formula feeding.
Most people I know think breastfeeding is a bit gross and I wanted some proof to show them on why I do it regardless of all the crap I get.
But no, I get MORE crap in here because a bunch of people feel like letting out some hatred and why not throw it at me today.
I'm not a real personw ith feelings or anything after all so slander me all you want.
OR
get a fucking life the lot of you.

Not interested in defending myself for the next 20 posts.

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chegirlWILLbeserene · 03/04/2010 19:15

I ex bf my DD for 6 mths and then she had forumula for 6 until cows milk.

Did I kill her then?

Was it the 6 mths of formula that gave her luekemia?

Can you let me know OP because at least I would know it was my fault instead of just thinking it every day of my fucking life.

Shaz10 · 03/04/2010 19:16

You could always say you're not FF because you don't want to.

wukter · 03/04/2010 19:17

I didn't call you names.
I said your O(riginal)P(ost) is disgusting, which I believe it is.
Though to be fair, I can see how it could be picked up as Original Poster, it's ambigious and I didn't mean that.
I really wouldn't attack another person on here, never have.

I do think your information is incorrect, and I did say so.

Yes it's sad that people should come on forums and throw around hatred. Or throw around incorrect assertions, insensitivity, judgements etc. All so sad.

mrsmudpuppy · 03/04/2010 19:17

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MotherOfBarabas · 03/04/2010 19:18

can't you see that if someone says bfing is gross or whatever and your response to them is that they or their children are more likely to get cancer if they were ff, that while this might win you the argument it will almost certainly lost you the friend?

mumtotwoboys · 03/04/2010 19:18

omnishambles ive done both.
People need someone to blame for everything and aim all their hatred at so I'm that person today it seems.

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MotherOfBarabas · 03/04/2010 19:19

oh shit, che, so sorry you had to read that, and i know this is a tough time of year for you. (it's aitch)

MotherOfBarabas · 03/04/2010 19:21

did you apologise? i thought you specifically didn't apologise?

anyway, have you googled the exact wording yet?

and OP, it's your right and privilege to bf your child, i hope everything goes well with the new baby. but please be ever so careful about advising this other woman? (or is the other woman you, i'm getting confused i think).

mrsmudpuppy · 03/04/2010 19:29

Blimey, just read the entire thread. Very sad. The problem is that there is no concrete evidence either way. We all just do our best with the information we are given.

Nemofish · 03/04/2010 19:34

OP I haven't bothered to read all the name calling, etc, but it makes me laugh when you admit your thread title is a bit thoughtless.

Erm you did read it, didn't you?! You must have realised how much hoo-ha and indeed kerfuffle your thread title was going to cause. I am willing to bet that you could have predicted the very emotional and negative response you have received as well.

File under oops and hope it gets deleted.

I ff my daughter, it wasn't what I wanted but I had no chioce. I do not believe that ff causes cancer.

Nemofish · 03/04/2010 19:44

chegirl NOT your fault. Cancer causing agents exist in our environment, even in our food, but the vast majority of the time they do not go on to actually cause cancer. Being alive can cause cancer, if you get me, there is always risk. I am so sorry that the cruel hand of fate picked on your dd, but I know and you know that you did not cause it.

hazeyjane · 03/04/2010 19:52

Ok I have just found my pregnancy notes, I guess they might be the same as yours, op.

The section on bfeeding is as follows.

"Breastmilk contains antibodies which help protect you baby from infections such as,
Gastro enteritis
Chest and Ear infections
Urinary tract infections

It also reduces the risk of
Eczema
Allergies where there is a family history
Diabetes
And possibly Bowel diseases later in life

Breastfeeding will also....

Reduce your (the mother's) risk of premenopausal breast and ovarian cancer."

There is absolutely nothing about babies suffering more childhood cancers.

Also isn't it the case that something between 70 and 80% of women start off breastfeeding, but stop early. So your argument that "near on 80% artificially feeding at 6months indicates that it's a choice ", is surely not so much because those women are ignorant of the health risks associated with formula, and so choose to f'feed because they believe it is just as good as b'feeding, and more to do with the lack of support when establishing b'feeding, and misinformation about the realities of b'feeding (eg supply issues etc).

MillyMollyMoo · 03/04/2010 19:59

Any figures on those still breast feeding at 6 weeks ?
That to me would be a better indication as to how much support women are receiving, once established many do continue to 6 months, why wouldn't you, it's the first few weeks that are the hardest.

bumpsoon · 03/04/2010 20:12

my problem with threads like this ,is the op never bothers to answer anything that even vaguely disagrees with her pov . breast milk contains higher levels of pvc's and pcb's ,this is a fact ,as stated by the world health organisation . they reccommend breastfeeding ,but lets not pretend breast milk is pure .

bumpsoon · 03/04/2010 20:19

and what about the fact that breastfeeding after 30 ,reduces the benifit to the mother ? after 35 it is almost negligble ,my information came from a consultant oncologist, someone i guess with a tiny bit more experience in the area of cancer . this information only relates to the premenapausal breast cancer however

mamasparkle · 03/04/2010 20:26

"But no, I get MORE crap in here because a bunch of people feel like letting out some hatred and why not throw it at me today.
I'm not a real personw ith feelings or anything after all so slander me all you want.
OR
get a fucking life the lot of you."

You're being deliberately disingenuous. Don't act all hurt and victim-y now that a few people have told you what I'm sure you already knew - your post is hurtful, insensitive, provocative and upsetting to not just mothers who formula feed but anyone who has lost a loved one to cancer.

We told you this not because we don't have a life, or because we are full of hatred, but because someone needed to tell you that posting a thread and title such as this is unacceptable.

hazeyjane · 03/04/2010 20:26

Millymollymoo,

"Overall, only 35 per cent of UK babies are being exclusively breastfed at one week, 21 per cent at six weeks, 7 per cent at four months and 3 per cent at five months."

(figures from Unicef)

bumpsoon · 03/04/2010 20:37

also the research into reduction in breast cancer states that if women in developed countries had the same number of births and breast fed ,we would see a reduction in breast cancer . so aswell as breast feeding ,we should all have multiple births , oh and how about giving up a car ,walking everywhere instead and basically having a healthier lifestyle with no processed foods ,gee i wonder if that would have any effects on cancer rates ?

MillyMollyMoo · 03/04/2010 20:44

pre-menopausal women are virtually indestructible most of us start falling apart after the menopause.

35% is still pretty low. I can't say I'm looking forward to breast feeding again but just don't see it as optional, it's what we do for our baby's.

icantbelieveimnotbitter · 03/04/2010 21:01

at title of thread!

WTF?

some women CANT breastfeed.

The reason you're getting flamed is because you have implied that all Formula feeders have CHOSEN to risk giving their precious baby cancer. What rubbish. As said previously, breastmilk is not pure and we all do the best we can.

It is offensive, upsetting and downright wrong to post in such a way.

If you want statistics, may i suggest you get yourself to a medical library and do some research. You may get the answers you want without offending scores of mothers.

careergirl · 03/04/2010 21:09

I think this thread should be removed. Inflammatory, crass, insensitive, ill informed just about covers it I think.

icantbelieveimnotbitter · 03/04/2010 21:11

Not that I believe that it does cause cancer anyway. 'Breast feeding may prevent certain cancers' is a long long long way off from 'Formula Feeding causes cancer'. tut tut.