All the cancers that formula feeding cause. any figures?

[mumtotwoboys]

So we know bottle feeders suffer more breast and ovarian cancers, and their babies suffer more childhood cancers (like leukimia) and bowel cancers later in life..
Any specific percentages?
Anything showing the amount of cancers it causes in relation to smoking?

Well that is just absolutley ridiculous Mumto2boys. What are they backing that staement up with? Their references? Of course, they would never include anythng like that as they probably assume that some people will take that advice at face value.

I'd want signposting to the relevant medical journals that proved that fact before I gave it a minute of my time.

My DC3 was the only one that I managed to BF for longer than 6 months. She was diagnosed with leukemia at 3yrs.

I hate statistics.

Carmen :

You can also find lots of evidence suggesting breastfeeding reduces risk of Crohn's, obesity, diabetes, ear infections, gastrointestinal disorders etc.

Of course, there IS much evidence to point to this.

Which is easily referencable (not sure that's quite the word but ykwim)

But to say a FF baby is 20 x more likely to have bowel disease....errr

Where's that paper? Research? Evidence?

There's many links that suggest toxins in formula actually cause cancer if you google it. Either way bottlefed babies suffer significantly higher rates of cancers sadly.

Babies bowels and digestive systems can't handle certain things at such an early age, giving babies food too early rather than just milk also increases risk of crohns later in life I hear, this nutritionist was talking about it on a cookery course I did a few weeks ago..
Maybe formula is just too harsh with all the unnatural stuff they have to add, could damage any part of the digestive system..
Still, better than baby dying of starvation when mum can't BF.
Women 'choosing' it over breastmilk is obviously the controversial issue

FGS OP, nice.

I'm not asking for Google links.

Google links prove shit all really. Anyone can post a site which shows up on a link.

Can you post some of ther links where you found this information out OP?

And your last post/... Good luck!"

"
Maybe formula is just too harsh with all the unnatural stuff they have to add, could damage any part of the digestive system
"

Again, where did you find this out?

Actually.

I'm bored of this.

I hope no parent whi is FF for whatever reason reads your posts. Cos you are talking shite. End of.

OF COURSE no one who's bottlefed their baby wants to hear these things, but it has to be said for the benefit of people choosing in future.

Oh shut the fuck up

(feel free to delete me mnhq)

Again, where.are.your.references?

I'll ask slowly as you seem to miss it every time we ask...

I told you it's in the pregnancy notes that all pregnant women are getting at the moment.
I'm sorry you're so offended by what the NHS are saying.

It's sad that formula feeders often get so defensive that they proclaim things like 'you're talking shite'.
really sad

Hahah

You assume I was/am a 'formula feeder'

Lol

I BF for 15 months

REally OP? In the notes that All pg women are getting? Yet no one has mentioned it before - This site does lack pregnant women, I suppose, attracts hairy truckers, it seems

As far as I can te|| the on|y proven between formu|a feeding and i|| hea|th (as opposed to a|| the other demographic factors) is a possib|e increased susceptibi|ity to ear infections and a||ergies. Given that DS had his worst ear infection and deve|oped eczema whi|e being breastfed I find this who|e argument more than a |itt|e point|ess.

What the he|| is the point of trying to scare a mother into breastfeeding?

Do you know what?

Wug and everyone else on this thread, lets retire from it.

Anyone else who reads it - please ignore any of the ignorant advice re cancer by the posts above. Its not true. There is no proof.

Please DO feel free to carry on enjoying any other MN thread that isn't full of ridiculous avdice (and by that I mean the posts by the OP)

Ta ra OP. Keep randonly talking shite. Someone might answer you some day.

The notes all pregnant women are getting at the moment tell you formula causes cancer?

News to me unless this changed since last year. Could you quote the exact words they use because I understood that, as others have said, breast feeding is protective against certain cancers rather than bottle feeding causing them. That is, breast milk contains substances which are protective against these diseases rather than formula containing cancer -causing substances.

Unless I am wrong about that, your reference to smoking is irrelevant as it is the substances in cigarettes which actually cause cancer.

"It's sad that formula feeders often get so defensive that they proclaim things like 'you're talking shite'.
really sad"

Formula feeders and most rational people get "defensive" as you say when someone makes scare-mongering statements about FF CAUSING cancer without any peer-reviewed medical evidence to back them up.

Back up your claims or don't make spurious remarks on such a sensitive subject. People worry enough about their children's health as it is without people like you adding to their fears.

I just love that we have all been 'tarnished' as FF

LOLOLOL

How does the OP know that? Apparently assumes that I was a FF because I am defnesive...lol Again.

Oranges, do your notes say anywhere that FF babies are 20 x more at risk of bowel disease?

mumtotwoboys - I'd like to see links to papers to back up your claims please.

Jareth, I've asked this numerous times...

OP can't link to them because they obv Don't Exist

Very sensible post Oranges.

OP: "So we know bottle feeders suffer more breast and ovarian cancers, and their babies suffer more childhood cancers (like leukimia) and bowel cancers later in life.."

So who knows this? As previous posters have asked - where are you getting this nonsense? I gave birth 5mths ago and never got anything like that in my pregnancy notes nor was ever told that by a health professional.

And before Im accused of being a defensive FFeeder, I have been BF but plan to move to FF at 6mths - is my baby now at risk when I make the change? Am I?

Load of tosh. Feed your baby. End of.

Am pregnant. Nothing in my notes except 'Mothers Guide to the Breastfeeding Policy' which lists the ways the hospital help you get started.
The OP and subsequent posts are obnoxious. If I were to say, it's really sad when breastfeeders get defensive about der der der....well, I just wouldn't say it actually because it's bloody rude.
There are a million reasons why people end up choosing to FF or BF. None of those reasons are anyone else's business.
Come back with some stats and less of the agressive attitude and maybe there'll be an interesting discussion to be had.

Val

Of course FF doesn't cause cancer. My understanding is that breastfeeding can reduce the incidence of cancer for both Mother and baby, but I the studies into this can never be 100% accurate. there are SO many factors to take into consideration, and I'm always fascinated to read papers on this subject.

The smoking/cancer argument to back up the OP's argument is fundamentally flawed. We all KNOW that smoking causes cancer in many cases. Half of all smokers will die of a smoking related illness.

There is no way to ever do a study into the effects of FF on an infant. Too many environmental factors would have to be taken into account.

op, not very helpful post at all, i had to ff all 3 of my dc's as couldnt breast feed and i wll not feel bad for it, nor would i if it was a choice. Nice lack of evidence though, not in any of my antenatal notes did it mention this and they differ year to year anyway.

Back away ladies..

upon here madness lies lol[Grin]

[sets reminder to ask the epidemiologists at work about this exact subject]

[pokes tongue]