if breast is best, then logically, bottle is second best?

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alux, i wanted to excllusively breastfeed my ds. am very pro breastfeeding. was upset, miserable, gguilty etc when my son had to have bottles or he would have dehydrated as his jaundice was so bad, and then he couldnt latch on. and it hurt soo much. and if he hadnt had the formula then he would have starved. i felt miserable. and when i started him on solids, he didnt even want the one little feed he was having. when he was nine months old, we went abroad, and everytime i was making him a bottle with mineral water that had been boiled and sterilised and filtered and god knows what else, i felt that i was a failure because my body should have been the filter.
so, imo i was a failed breastfeeder. health professionals thought i was doing brilliantly. i didnt.

dinny - she obviously 'thought' you'd sold it on and IMO was quite impressed that you'd thought of selling it to get some extra cash rather than doing what she was going to do and give it away.

oh, i thought i saw an ad you had placed.
well, that makes me feel better actually. dh thinks i spend too much anyways. hope you have been happy with it.

alux I agree. I bf ds until about 23 weeks (I had to go back to work when he was 24 weeks). I fondly imagined I was a successful bf'er. Imagine my surprise when I saw threads which had women coming on being upset that they'd had to give up by nine months, when they'd wanted to go for at least a year!

All of us set our own standards and if we're happy with them, who cares what anyone else thinks? My main gripe, is women who are unable to reach their own standards because they are not supported to.

And I do agree that a lighthearted thread about breast vs bottle is an oxymoron.

caligula, i am beginning to realise that yes, it is an oxymoron

And you've been mumsnetting for how long?

caligula
did you have a previous mn nickname, or am I completely out?

lol
havent you guys realised that i am a thicko. completely and utterly clueless about anything that isnt spelt out to me. and i excel at being tactless. and insensitive.
not much hope for me actually.

Stitch up then

NN - ooh, a long time ago!

What about you?

ha ha Caligula, your style is unmistakeable. I think Ill leave you to work it out.

I bf ds for 3 weeks, surprisingly I had a lot of support from midmives and HV. I gave up because it hurt so much, is was making me ill. I had pain only on one boob, the right side and ds was latched on properly, the Hv and my midwife confirmed this. Nobody knew why I had this pain, I used to cry every other time I breastfed and I dreaded it. I had bad dreams, hallucinations in the day, nightsweats, started getting very down and I had murderous uncontrollable thoughts towards my baby which frightened me. I put ds on the bottle and I felt so much better and so did my ds. I didn't feel guilty about my decision at all because I felt it was the right one

Now my dd was a different story. I really wanted to have another go at b/f and I was totally and utterly disgusted a tthe lack of support after her birth. I asked for help with her to make sure I was doing it right but was told Oh you know what your doing you've had a baby before! er hello read my notes!! To be honest they had more time (and I'm not having a go!!) for the bottle feeders. I had a twinge of pain again, and thought no way I'm not going to get the support this time, she's going on the bottle and she was on day 2. I felt shit for weeks and I cried everyday. I really felt a failure..

Now the hurt has eased and I can look back. I'm angry that I wasn't offered the support with dd but I believe I gave my children 'my best' and the are both healthy strong children and I don't care if I bottlefed.

And yes I think this thread is light hearted but I don't think it was started in the right way. I think it was started to wind people up if I'm making sense. Just got in from work and I'm knackered.

Oh God, now I'll be wondering all night, but absolutely must go to bed - swore I wouldn't get involved in another Mumsnet row tonight!

Good night.

aloha!
youbeat me to it

As an abandoned baby I was bottle fed in the 70's, and as a dying baby with severe congentital heart disease in the wilds of New Zealand in the 60's my partner was cows milk fed. Both of us, inadvertently in our late 30's incidentally, have produced a very healthy boy, who for whatever reason ended up bottle fed, and despite wishing to breastfeed my baby I abhor the spoutings of what I now see as the breastfeeding gestapo - how nice to be seated in a position so high as to be able to mock those that wish to feed their child by which means necessary. Oh, and I am told my sense of humour is very good. Tee hee hee.

You're such a wit serah. I am holding my sides.

have you seen the Rev yet Moondog

you've got the start of a gripping novel there serah

Thursday Suze. I have been blasting out 'Belle' the album and slurping Chablis in the garden after a night out.Sooooooo excited.

These people miss the point completely wouldn't you say????

I would say that yes

So is the latest album really good then? I always get a bit nervous when the "greats" put out new stuff, I mean Stevie Wonder's latest studio album has been canned because it's not up to scratch. Gutting

And hasn't there been a thing from MNHQ asking posters not to refer to terror organisations of the Third Reich even in jest?

Still haven't got it. Unfortunately,being alone with two kids and dh away,barely have time to clean my teeth,let alone squander time on such fripperies.....

They say Jamiroquai's new album is fantastic,even those who think he's a twat (as I am wont to do). Very early Stevie Wonder in style.

I am probably too pissed to get into a breastfeeding altercation,but hey,what the hell!

Hi Serah - Im a fourth rate mum too

moondog and suzywong, you seem to have had nothing to add to this thread before this post, and certainly nothing afterwards. yawwwnnnnn.

no you are absolutely right serah, we are using this thread soley for our own amusement

Bad moondog and suzywong, to your rooms now!

ahem. i actually am using this thread for my own amusment

oh yes I like the sound of his single too, JK, but he is a big twat