why would anyone CHOOSE not to bf? if they know its the best thing for the baby?

[milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk]

this totally baffles me, , i truely cannot understand it.

i can understand it, if you try and find it too difficult, and decide its not working out for you.
but i honestly can not understand why a mother would not even want to.
surely every mum only wants the best for their baby?

is it because they do not understand the risks of giving formula?

OK, you might not have known the trouble this thread would cause but now you do. And you're still going.

Um, that posters on here love to accuse people of trolling?

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gfm im mearly responding to things people are saying to me or stating things that i have not ever said !

fair enough really !

I'm off too. I have to go to bed so I can get up in time to go to work tomorrow (evil me!! ).

This thread kind-of entered the twilight zone for me when milkgoddess accused Xenia of being bonkers.

IMO that's the pot calling the kettle black and then some.

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Milky, I've just bumped another thread of yours.

Think on.

izzy lol night night

phew custy voice of reason as ever

I find your MN name arrogant and egotistical. And it smacks of insecurity. And that is coming from a SAHM who is VERY pro BFing. I still find your attitude offensive. Its too superior. Name change and get some perspective and compassion.

Xenia was viciously insulting about SAHMs on that thread. She said that they 'damaged their children' and that they are 'disgusting'. She said they are 'morally defective'. She said that they 'aren't any good at putting their case' and that they 'would never have amounted to anything at work'.

I thought that 'bonkers' was exceptionally restrained. MG said nothing like that about WOHMs - not least because she never f*cking mentioned WOHMs.

lol, how can someone find a MN name offensive!

Have you ever thought that for some women the very idea of having a baby sucking form their breast is a revolting prospect.
Ask almost any of the now 50+ generation and they will say that it is horrible to watch.
Why do you think that even now there has to be a law that makes it ok to breast feed in public.

Just because you have a very narrow view of what is best, it doesnt mean that everyone else does.

I have fed both my children. I am expecting again. You know what, this time I might even introduce a bottle. I have a life away from my children, if I didnt I would be a much, much worse mother than you may consider me to be already.

lol marmaduke, even someone as "superior" as i, couldn't manage that !

Bravo Custardo for your post.....I breast fed my twins for 3 weeks only, the absolute hardest three weeks of my life. I tried and tried and tried to bf, but for me and for my twins, it was not the right answer. I could go on and on, but I will get emotional and dont want to go there, so leaving it at taht.

milky I dont know I just managed it! Its so full of yourself.

milkgoddess - it's simple: if you start from a position where you acknowledge that all women do the best they can for their beloved babies - based on what they know about breast and bottlefeeding and what they feel able to do, then there's no mystery as to why some women choose to breastfeed and some choose not to.

BTW - I never saw the other thread on working mums, but if I had it wouldn't have bothered me, despite the fact that I went back to work when my eldest was only 5 weeks old. If milkgoddess feels it's better for babies to be looked after by their mothers and that it's selfish to work after you've had a baby then she's perfectly entitled to express that opinion without drawing down a heap of abuse. Why get worked up and angry if you're secure in your choice? Just disagree with her - you don't need to get personal about it!

milkgoddessmakesthefinestmilk - you have a habit of starting these nasty ole threads berating others. are you so inadequate that you project deep rooted loathing onto others?

sabire, she never, ever said that babies should be looked after by their mothers.

What did she say then?

sabire made a good point. I am sorry for getting personal. But to be honest I feel you get VERY personal in a very underhanded and deceitful way and I find it hard to not point that out and then be honest about how I feel.

I want to stress again - I am a SAHM who has no bad feelings AT ALL about working mothers - I am also very pro BFing and also long term BFing. I just dont like it when people use these issues to make others feel like shit. And Milky you have been doing a lot of that recently.

She was careful to always talk about parents - unlike the vast majority of posters (on both sides of the debate) on that thread.

Milky, you say you want to help women to breastfeed on that other thread. Inflammatory posts like this aren't helping. They don't help the women who are/might breastfeed - and they don't help people who are supporting them either, because this sort of thing adds to the suspicion that anyone who wants to help others to breastfeed thinks as you do - judgementally, unkindly and with lashings of smug.

So, if I may, I will politely request you go and read a lot, before you open your mouth on the subject again in this fashion.