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Mumsnet has showed me the meaning of prejudice

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Hannie55 · 12/08/2007 13:03

OK, so i breastfed dd.
Intend to bottlefeed this one (due end aug).
Must be pretty neutral right?
So why is it when i read the debates on here that its clear as day to a neutral that its mums who bottle feed formula to their babies that are the ones being judged and harangued?
Yet its some of the breastfeedrs who shout loudest and demand the acknowledgement that they are in fact the opressed?
What makes it worse is its so underhand and sly, if any bottle feeders come back they are accused of being prejudiced, paranoid and of supressing guilt (wtf?!).
Mumsnet has really opened my eyes to some wierd views, none moreso than the anti-formula lobby (who of course are not anti formuls at all).

Really did not realise these people existed, thankfully they only appear in cyber-space!

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KerryMumbledore · 13/08/2007 00:10

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 13/08/2007 00:11

ewwwwwwwww NADBAG!!!!

TMI!!!!!

hunkermunker · 13/08/2007 00:12

KM, I'm actually really pissed off with you.

Your ignorant, ill-formed statement, based on what? A couple of women you know who you didn't like much anyway?

Fucking HELL, do you know how many posts I've made this last week, trying to get women to see that it's possible to breastfeed, to support breastfeeding and NOT to judge women who ffeed?

And will they be remembered? No, they'll be fucking TAINTED with the bile you've just spewed, because you're an unthinking, smug twat!

KerryMumbledore · 13/08/2007 00:12

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 13/08/2007 00:13

I'm sorry, your argument is too flimsy lady.

Gimme some proper facts and figures. I am aware that b/feeding initiation rates are as low in Ireland as they are in Scotland, but it still amounts to about 50+% - thats at least every other mother you meet.

Mhamai · 13/08/2007 00:13

Eh Kerry, I've breastfed, I've never been on one of these threads and don't want to be but just wanted to post that.

NadineBaggott · 13/08/2007 00:13

ha ha - vvvvvvvvvvvqv wrong end of poke stick

KerryMumbledore · 13/08/2007 00:13

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hunkermunker · 13/08/2007 00:14

Nicer than you, I think.

IsabelWatchingItRainInMacondo · 13/08/2007 00:14

Kerry, perhaps you have not met anyone who had real problems. I know two women whose babies had to be hospitalised through problems related to unsucessful breastfeeding.

I don't think they were lazy at all, actually they were pasionate enough to continue BF even when they could see a problem building. Their problem was very simple: Having a problem and no adequate help available to them until it was nearly too late. (

and having seen my friend made a mess with crying begging to the nurse to allow her to give her baby a bottle, I can understand that sometimes even the people who is there to help you, may be making the things more difficult)

Unfortunately, lack of adequate support during problems is more likely to be the main reason why a good number of women end FF, rather than laziness or selfishness.

MyMILisDoloresUmbridge · 13/08/2007 00:15

Well, maybe not in Kerry. There's plenty of us in Meath.

gess · 13/08/2007 00:15

erm I think I might remember your last post hunker

Kerry - you are quite insane.

Mhamai · 13/08/2007 00:16

And Dublin

KerryMumbledore · 13/08/2007 00:16

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southeastastra · 13/08/2007 00:17

i was 11 when my mum had a mastectomy in 1982. i have to admit it did put me off breastfeeding.

NadineBaggott · 13/08/2007 00:19

couldn't find a stick

will this do? www.freedigitalphotos.net/albums/userpics/10001/wooden-spoon.jpg

KerryMumbledore · 13/08/2007 00:19

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LelsandZaffy · 13/08/2007 00:19

Is this really necessary?
Surely we should all be in bed rather then wasting our energies arguing?
All this passion could be put to better use in helping those that need help with breastfeeding
(starts eating biscuits in bed)

IsabelWatchingItRainInMacondo · 13/08/2007 00:20

erm... you?

KerryMumbledore · 13/08/2007 00:21

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welliemum · 13/08/2007 00:22

I wasn't going to post on this thread, and now feel obliged to hold my hand up as someone who is strongly pro-breastfeeding and totally opposed to KerryMumbledore's point of view.

The reasons why people ff or bf or mix-feed are very complicated, and surely it's barn-door obvious to anyone after 5 minutes on MN, that how you feed your baby is a) not a casual choice, and b) not even a choice for most people. So how you can presume to judge people is beyond me.

I think IsabelWatchingetc has made a good point, that perhaps we should separate general discussions about ff, bf - research, politics etc - from discussions about our own individual experiences. The two are so different and so toxic when they get muddled up.

KerryMumbledore · 13/08/2007 00:22

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southeastastra · 13/08/2007 00:23

who is name calling?

NadineBaggott · 13/08/2007 00:23

well by saying you think ff mothers deserve stick you must mean you actually do it yourself or sit on the sidelines knitting whilst someone else gives them stick?

so who should be ashamed?

hunkermunker · 13/08/2007 00:24

I'm frustrated, KM.

Can you not see that you're not helping?

In fact, I posted earlier about the very thing you've done on this thread not being at all helpful to "breastfeeding".

Yes, I was rude to you. I have searched every corner of my non-judgemental breastfeeding soul and can't find it in me to apologise to you though.

Because I meant every word of it.

You might not have said "twat", but you were more offensive than I was, that's for sure.