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Formula Feeders racked with guilt - wanna talk?

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mamawhyte · 19/07/2007 22:14

Just come over from another thread - rather than hijack that one.

I was always (and always will be) a pro-breastfeeder, but unfortunately have been completely disillusioned by my two experiences. For some reason, bf is so hard for me - some women seem to take to it naturally but no matter how hard I've tried I've not managed to overcome bf problems.

I had dd1 after a long and painful labour which ended with a 3rd degree tear. I was so exhausted I couldn't hold my new baby for long so when they asked me if I wanted to try to feed her I said no because I truly felt like i'd drop her. I went off to have my op and by the time I got back, she was asleep. I'd had pethadine during the labour and as a result she slept for 12 hours solid. The midwives said not to wake her, the ped said I should, and they had a big row about it in the corridor outside my ward. Anyway, I was there for four days and the whole time not one of the midwives managed to get her to latch on. By the time I left the hospital she'd had a bottle of formula but I was still determined to get the hang of bfeeding. I tried a nipple shield and she latched on, sucked for 45 mins and then woke 10mins later and drunk a whole bottle of formula! I asked the mw and she said "oh, she's probably getting something if she's latched on for that long". But my confidence was knocked and I had no support from relatives. I tried again and again but the same thing kept happening. I expressed milk 3 times a day for a month for her but the rest of the time she had bottles.

The guilt was something else. I'd think about bfeeding all day every day until it became too much to bear, then I'd break down, fess up to hubby who'd convince me I needed to get some help. I'd agree, but the the following morning I'd wake up feeling so much happier and lighter because I'd talked about with dh and got it all back into perspective, so I didn't bother with the doctor. A few weeks later, it would start building up again and within a couple of months I'd have another breakdown, blah de blah.

This cycle went on for 3 years until I became pregnant again. At last I could prove to myself that I could do it - I had a second chance. But suffered a miscarriage at 12 weeks. It was really sad, but the only positive thing that came out of it was that it had broken the cycle.

Three months later I was pregnant again. This time, I was completely devoted to successfully breastfeeding from the moment I found out. I hired a doula to help me after the birth to make sure the baby latched on straight away and that I had some support. dh was also fantastic. I had an elective c-section, recommended due to the third degree tear I suffered the first time round. I had a birth plan which stated that as long as all was well, I wanted to try to feed her as soon as possible, and I did - on the operating theatre table. And she latched on perfectly!! I was thrilled. My doula spent hours with me at the hospital for the first few days, helping me to perfect the latch and the I transferred to a birth centre for two nights so that I could concentrate on me and my baby before I went home. I had my breastfeeding book and my baby and apart from bits of my nipples being peeled off when I took my breastpad away from my nipple and my baby puking up an incredible amount of dried blood after she had her first proper full feed on the third day, everything seemed to be going fine. I got home and became so obsessed with breasfeeding that I thought of nothing else. Being cooped up for 6 wks didn't help either! I had my doula, midwives, health visitors and a breast feeding counsellor all reassuring me that she was latched on fine, but they kept saying "it shouldn't hurt", so I knew it wasn't right because I had to be on ibruprofen and paracetomol 24/7. I started to feel increasingly isolated and depressed and had mastitis when dd2 was 3 weeks old. Antibiotics sorted that out, so I carried on. I got it again when she was 5 weeks old, but this time the antibiotic didn't have any effect, so doc gave me another - the only other one available to me apparently, because I'm allergic to penicillin. He said it wasn't ideal to take whilst bf ing, only if truly neccessary, which it was. So, I took it - doc told me to see how it went. DD2 cried inconsolably all day like she was really uncomfortable and it was awful. I had to take them for 7 days and there was no way I was putting her through that for a week, so I started to give her bottles of formula and tried to express as much as possible to keep the milk supply up, but it dwindled and by day 7 I wasn't getting enough for a full feed. I tried to bf her in the morning and evening, but had to top up with a bottle. She was so upset when she couldn't have mummy's milk from a lovely warm breast for the second part of her feed and it broke my heart. Enough was enough!

Reading back I can see that all my choices were always in my baby's best interests. It's so nice to get it off my chest once in a while when I can feel that cycle coming back.

I read about a lady who bf for 6 months and hated every second, but was determined. She had masitis 9 times and was surprised when her baby took to the bottle really well and wouldn't even let her mummy hold the bottle. Sometimes you can go too far I think, but I still think she must have been incredibly strong to go through all that.

Well, if anyone has actually managed to get to the end of this - well done!!! Maybe this thread is just for me - it'd probably bore the pants off anyone else. Thanks for reading.

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startouchedtrinity · 23/07/2007 20:22

Hunker - I hate the 'bf nazi' type comments - so hurtful and unneccasry. IMO they come from the same feelings of alienation and sadness and those who make them have their own unacknowledged issues.

Btw the first time I ever heard the term was on Jeremy Clarkson's chat show, voiced by Jane Moore. Says it all really.

mama, how rotten for you. Your friend's hormones have made her very silly, haven't they? Saved a baby??? I hated it whenever someone suggested relactation to me - I'd 'not had the courage' (according to my community mw ) to keep on with bf and I certainly didn't feel strong enough for trying to relactate weeks after I'd stopped. I am not saying for a minute your friend shouldn't have suggested it but the outcome may not be what she thinks - in RL we are too polite to say what we think.

If she's not that good a mate I'd steer clear for a while. If she is, print this off for her to read.

I did complain about the mw who was so insensitive to me, unofficially to my GP. I have no idea if it made any difference but I felt a whole lot better, and my GP was fab.

startouchedtrinity · 23/07/2007 20:23

Sorry, that should be made your friend say silly things, not that she is silly.

mamawhyte · 23/07/2007 21:50

I did wonder about showing her this. I'll see how it goes. I could see she was trying to help, but was shocked by the evidence of how she truly views formula feeding, that she must really believe it's some kind of second rate junk.

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rookiemum · 23/07/2007 22:12

I'm late to this thread as DS is 16mths so I thought I was over the disappointment I felt about giving up BF when he was only a week old.

However as we are now thinking about having another child the whole thing is starting to scare me again.

I passionately wanted to BF and went to the NCT classes, bought the bras and was so pleased when DS seemed to latch on well. But like one other poster he had an undiagnosed tongue tie, I had an emergency C-section and he was a big baby so difficult to hold in the positions that the home MW showed me once she spotted the tongue tie. I was just about holding it together, when my Dhs mum died and it was he who had been holding everything else together, then I got a dose of mastitis. I tried to express for a bit but found that I wasn't strong enough to continue and couldn't cope with getting up expressing, sterilising and then feeding.

I gave up after about two weeks.

I feel that I did the right thing for our family, but on one of the other threads there was a bit of a snippy comment about FFs who BF but give up at the first opportunity, and that made me feel like I was weak and a failure.

If we have no 2 with all my heart I want to BF, I know its better than formula milk, but I also hope that it isn't working for me I can move away without as much pain and upset as I went through last time.

Anyway I know the topic has moved well away from everyones story, but its made me feel a bit better to post it.

lazyemma · 23/07/2007 22:16

sorry for the continued thread detour but fedup - if you ever want to talk about what it's like to go through a breast reduction with someone who's had one, give me a shout.

Also you're right to wait until you're not going to have any more children - I was a G before my reduction, a DD afterwards (hoorah!) and then I went back to a G during pregnancy, and am still a G now daughter is 3 months old, with no sign of imminent shrinkage. Bah!

sheepgomeep · 23/07/2007 22:53

I'm late to this thread too but want to share my experience.

I bf for 3 weeks with ds, and I ended up hating it. I have very flat nipples and he had trouble latching on successfully. When he did he would suck and suck and make my nipples bleed and I got mastitus, I overcame that but my right breast would burn along one side whenver I fed him and I would cry at every other feed. I had a lot of help from various people but no one could tell me what this pain was.
Finally, after getting to the stage where I used to cry when I fed him, got very depressed and had dreams where I would harm him I switched to formula feeding and never looked back.

I don't think I felt guilt then only relief that it was all over.

with dd2 I lasted a day and I only had to feel that burning pain in my breast again, same boob oddly enough before I switched to formula and then I really did feel awful, I cried for days over my decision. I did ask if I could do both simultaneously but was told this was a no no. I wish I had done now.

I decided to try to bf dd2 but fate and circumstances colluded against me.

I had an emergency C section after a gruelling 16 hour labour. I bf on the ward afterwards which was lovely and didn't hurt a bit and I felt at peace with the world. By the end of day two my scar hurt so bad I couldn't bf comfortably even though the lovely mw's spent ages with me helping me try. Then on day 3 my scar burst open on the ward and poured with blood, I had a haemotoma in the wound itself and I was afraid to move in case it made it worse. Alongside of this I had a problem with the catheter (my bladder had been damaged during the op and the catheter could not be removed until my wee was blood and clotfree, only thing is the damn thing kept getting blocked and I had to be recatherterised 5 times and then I kept uncontrollably passing water over the top of the catherter which was so so painful and had to keep standing next to the bed on one of those care mat things they supply at my hospital. Seeing as I was passing water sometimes every few minuites or half an hour I couldn't sit there and bf. I just couldn't,it was physically impossibe, it would have sent me over the edge.

So I switched to ff aND it really helped, the mw had Elinor for me at night so I could try and rest and my friends and dp could feed her whilst I passed my wee on the care mat!

I eventually nearly a week later left hospital (still with bleeding wound) and went home. My milk was in by then and I was all set to try again, to see if I could re establish bf but it wasn't to be as I was admitted again 2 days later with severe anaemia and had to have 3 blood tranfusions. I couldn't take ellie with me as her bands had come off and there was a risk of infection on the ward.

My dad then was taken ill whilst I was in hospital and died a week later and a friend died 3 days before my dad, I couldn't physically and emotionally cope with bf, I just couldn't.

What really gets me is when a lot of pro bf say that you can't bond as well when you ff. I say that you can and sometimes even more so. I couldn't bond at all with ds during those 3 weeks I bf,,

My 2 dd's I bonded with straightaway and I'm so glad I ff in the end.

The most hurtful thing I ever read was in a pregnancy and baby book written by Mirriam Stoppard that said something like every mother should try to breast feed or she will miss out on the extra special closeness and bonding that only bf can give her

Stupid woman.

oddly enough ds is the sickliest out of all my children.

startouchedtrinity · 24/07/2007 08:35

mama, you will be doing your friend a favour by showing her this thread. O/wise she will go on making hurtful comments, not just to you but to others, and she will not want that to happen.

rookiemum, I bfed dd2 after a terrible time with dd1. It can be done, just keep calm, but if it doesn't happen it is how things are supposed to be.

dinkyboysmum · 03/08/2007 11:57

i had similar problems with ds, born 6 weeks premature &in SCBU for 2 weeks. whilst in SCBU i expressed religiously every 3 hrs and he was fed thru nose tube then bottle. when we came home i just couldnt keep it up. managed pumping for further 4 weeks, till ds was 4wks. ds never latched on& it upset me to see him getting frustrated with me trying to get him on. i felt such a failure. nipples were so sore & bleeding from vigorous pumping, even on minimum suction. i dreaded it and spent days in tears. all that on top of having to get my head around ds arriving so early. it was not the start we'd planned.

but now, when i look back it jusy wasnt working for either of us. i totally appreciate breastmilk is best, but when it puts so much stress on you and affects your bonding and attitude towards your newborn, i really feel it was the best decision for us at that time. i'm still pro-beastfeeding and hope desperatly that when dc2 arrives, its will 'work'.

i have such admiration for those pumping mums out there...keep it up!

SueBaroo · 03/08/2007 16:26

Just to add my guilt to the pile - I successfully BF dd1, but couldn't produce enough for Dds 2 + 3, and that meant dd3 was actually malnourished and has had development problems.

With my last baby, along with some physical problems that needed medication that was innappropriate for BF, we decided to FF. I've tried to be quite breezy about it, but I'll be honest, I've felt dreadfully guilty about not being able to give my third daughter enough and now feel dreadfully guilty about my son not getting any at all. I mean, he's fine, and my daughter is now mostly caught up, but still.

I've only ever been aware of pro-breastfeeding stuff, both among friends and with professionals, and I feel really out on a limb, like there's something wrong with me. Quite upset about it today, actually, and the whole debacle contributed to PND which I'm only just getting treatment for.

anyway, sorry to whinge, but I needed to hammer that out..

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